Indagrow

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Can someone give me a crash course in seed prep.. Ie

Harvest
Dry
Freezer
Store
Use


Is the freezer a step? Can I just harvest dry in an envelope and go straight to germ or is there a period I must wait? Gestation comes to mind?
 

genuity

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Can someone give me a crash course in seed prep.. Ie

Harvest
Dry
Freezer
Store
Use


Is the freezer a step? Can I just harvest dry in an envelope and go straight to germ or is there a period I must wait? Gestation comes to mind?
All them steps sound right..

I have gone right from seeded bud,to germ...without issue.

Some plants drop seeds,in the pots they was growing in...and they start growing just fine.
 

Mr.Head

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I once had a seed germ while still on the bud in an outdoor grow.. It was a very humid year.

But I figured for it to be ideal as far as germination goes there where some steps I could follow. Looks like I'm off to pop some beans.

Thanks! Carry on
Would love to see a photo of that. Did you happen to take one?
 

Gbuddy

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jus sayin this is the criteria i look for in my chosen male to be used for breeding, 1. overall health, vigor & structure, 2. not necessarily the earliest flowerer as often these types dont deliver in other areas, definately not the latest flowerer, 3. cut leaves & test smoke for potency
You are on the right track man as most people in this thread.

@Joedank thanks you for puting my nose on that thread its a great one thanks for starting it @genuity.
The funny thing is the thread started at my birthday :-)

I must say in cannabis breeding we all just scratched the surface of things. Prohibition and limitation I blame for that. Without that we would know more.

Me and others who have made a few beans crosses or even a ibl in their lives have learned one or two things.
And one of those things is that you never know what one male and one female will do when you bring them together. There is some luck involved in the game all the time.
we are limited in space and plantcount by law and other stuff.feeling for the plants is needed.
And for a rule of thumb "when you pollinate a drugstrain female with a drugstrain male you will get more drugstrain"
Breeding is somehow very complex thing.
its important what you aim for.
variety or fixing special traits like color taste aso or if you are looking for individuals to go into some inbreeding or linebreeding. Its great fun making your own seeds and others enjoy your work. What is realy satisfying is to work with something good and making something even better from what you have. That is getting me high

Edit
I love the pic on the first page of that purple bud its beautyful and dank. Was the second post cherry puff cross.
 
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Gbuddy

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Is the freezer a step?
Thats a good question!
Seeds will germ without the freezer thats for sure. But the freezers is a great tool to store seeds for long time. Its not needed for preparation but it puts the seed into a stage of stasis. The cells membrane stays still. This simulates winter and the interuption of it would be the springtime in nature. But what does it mean for the seed if stasis will not be interrupted?
 

Joedank

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You are on the right track man as most people in this thread.

@Joedank thanks you for puting my nose on that thread its a great one thanks for starting it @genuity.
The funny thing is the thread started at my birthday :-)

I must say in cannabis breeding we all just scratched the surface of things. Prohibition and limitation I blame for that. Without that we would know more.

Me and others who have made a few beans crosses or even a ibl in their lives have learned one or two things.
And one of those things is that you never know what one male and one female will do when you bring them together. There is some luck involved in the game all the time.
we are limited in space and plantcount by law and other stuff.feeling for the plants is needed.
And for a rule of thumb "when you pollinate a drugstrain female with a drugstrain male you will get more drugstrain"
Breeding is somehow very complex thing.
its important what you aim for.
variety or fixing special traits like color taste aso or if you are looking for individuals to go into some inbreeding or linebreeding. Its great fun making your own seeds and others enjoy your work. What is realy satisfying is to work with something good and making something even better from what you have. That is getting me high

Edit
I love the pic on the first page of that purple bud its beautyful and dank. Was the second post cherry puff cross.
you always give me neat things to think on ... fixing traits . good verbage , you sure english is not your first language?
 

Gbuddy

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good verbage , you sure english is not your first language?
Lmao.... :mrgreen::oops:
thats a good one joe.
you know I am just happy when people can understand my twisted upside down "english" with my home:bigjoint:made grammar and tons of typos. Thats why I sometimes write a whole book to say two simple things. and even then I am not sure if anyone can translate that into the language I think I am using.
please guys tell me if I make myself look like a clown and you dont understand me I will try my best to find other words to say what I try to say.

Peacebongsmilie
 

st0wandgrow

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I don't mean to clog up your thread with chucking 101 Q and A here Genuity, so say the word and I'll post questions up in another thread...

Is there any point in continuing a line that doesn't appear to be keeper material? The reason I ask is that I got my hands on a pack of seeds called Purple Gorilla. Not much info on it other than it originates from Humboldt county, and the mother is Purple Rain Forrest. I was all stoked to germinate these thinking they might be something special, but at week 7 of 12/12 the two females look very ordinary. I've got rooted clones of every male/female thinking I would be doing some chucking, but I'm about ready to toss them.

Stupid question perhaps, but is there a possibility that the offspring could be something vastly superior to the parents? Kinda like that hot chick in school who's parents look like Uncle Fester and Rosie O'Donnel. :-)

Just thought I'd ask before they hit the compost heap.
 

Gbuddy

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I don't mean to clog up your thread with chucking 101 Q and A here Genuity, so say the word and I'll post questions up in another thread...

Is there any point in continuing a line that doesn't appear to be keeper material? The reason I ask is that I got my hands on a pack of seeds called Purple Gorilla. Not much info on it other than it originates from Humboldt county, and the mother is Purple Rain Forrest. I was all stoked to germinate these thinking they might be something special, but at week 7 of 12/12 the two females look very ordinary. I've got rooted clones of every male/female thinking I would be doing some chucking, but I'm about ready to toss them.

Stupid question perhaps, but is there a possibility that the offspring could be something vastly superior to the parents? Kinda like that hot chick in school who's parents look like Uncle Fester and Rosie O'Donnel. :-)

Just thought I'd ask before they hit the compost heap.
Have you done some testsmoking?
 

Gbuddy

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Any experience with average looking parents creating great offspring?
No not me.
only reason I could think of would be that you know the mom was top notch. That would led to the conclusion that the male used as father was not a good choice. The way to get the moms quality or something close would be to interbreed to get f2 generation. In the f2 you can find some plants that lean very close to the mother and some to the father. But thats pure selection work and you dont know if you find your keeper in the first 100 seeds or the next aso.
as long as space is limited dont waste your time and take the best you can get to keep and breed with and toss the rest.but first testsmoke it.
just my 2 cents....
 

hyroot

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I don't mean to clog up your thread with chucking 101 Q and A here Genuity, so say the word and I'll post questions up in another thread...

Is there any point in continuing a line that doesn't appear to be keeper material? The reason I ask is that I got my hands on a pack of seeds called Purple Gorilla. Not much info on it other than it originates from Humboldt county, and the mother is Purple Rain Forrest. I was all stoked to germinate these thinking they might be something special, but at week 7 of 12/12 the two females look very ordinary. I've got rooted clones of every male/female thinking I would be doing some chucking, but I'm about ready to toss them.

Stupid question perhaps, but is there a possibility that the offspring could be something vastly superior to the parents? Kinda like that hot chick in school who's parents look like Uncle Fester and Rosie O'Donnel. :-)

Just thought I'd ask before they hit the compost heap.

You've grown tga gear right? So you know how their clones traits differ from the seeds. So if this Purple gorilla is just a single cross (no bx) . Then more than likely you will see superior traits in the clones. You can just flower small plants just to see the traits too.
 

torontoke

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You've grown tga gear right? So you know how their clones traits differ from the seeds. So if this Purple gorilla is just a single cross (no bx) . Then more than likely you will see superior traits in the clones. You can just flower small plants just to see the traits too.
I found the same thing with cali's tahoe it seemed to get better and frostier each time for about 6 grows then it seemed to plateau.
 

dbkick

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Little unofficial update about 303 seeds to anyone thats interested.
They had a minor setback but are still building the warehouse.
I for one am excited to see them up and running again. Im sure they're going to make an excellent return to the field.
 

Joedank

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I haven't. I'm only basing this on appearance and smell (or lack thereof). I know I shouldn't jump to conclusions before smoking on them, but space is kinda limited so I was thinking of cutting my losses. Any experience with average looking parents creating great offspring?
stow great ?'s.
very thought provoking answers.
i agree with gbuddy . test smoke can be a game changer for me as its effect i am after more than all other fronts . well except ease of trimming sometimes lol....
i dump all inferior crosses as a rule . burbank got it right . "breed with the best accept no less." but those resessive mom traits often take a bx to see.. my.02
 

professor KIND

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i ran the "snow goddess" from 303 ...quite similar, very stretchy phenos, covered in mad frost.

tasted fruit salad like w/ sweet watermelon, berries, and kiwi.

*

just picked up a gallon of ona "apple crumble".... shit's the best they ever put out.

$36 delivered. the dirty mitten (MI) giving up great auction site prices very competitive to cali.

even cheaper than driving to get the stuff local.
love discrete deliveries. :joint:
 

st0wandgrow

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stow great ?'s.
very thought provoking answers.
i agree with gbuddy . test smoke can be a game changer for me as its effect i am after more than all other fronts . well except ease of trimming sometimes lol....
i dump all inferior crosses as a rule . burbank got it right . "breed with the best accept no less." but those resessive mom traits often take a bx to see.. my.02
Thanks for the response (you too GBuddy). I'll let them finish and puff on them before I decide, but not much optimism here.

On another note, I'm taking my T5 out of the veg room and using it in a little breeding area I have sectioned off. I know you posted a pic of how you cut the branches off of your males and put them in a glass of water to collect the pollen. I like that idea! What if I wanted to let the male fully flower out au naturale in its container? What's the best way to ensure that it doesn't dump it's load all in my soil and elsewhere? Maybe a paper plate with a notch cut in it to fit around the trunk of the plant that would just sit on the lip of the container?

Got a nice looking sweet skunk male that I'm gonna pull out of the flower room and attempt to collect some pollen...
 
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