Owner of winnipegs only medical marijuana dispensary arrested.

nobody important 666

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Well any "not for profit" is just flat out full of shit IMO. Paying yourself whatever profit you make then claiming on taxes that the shop never turned a profit is as scummy as they come. That's what these non profits do. They pay the employees/owners a salary and then bonus's to cover any profits they make on paper. Tbh dispensary quality has nothing to do with if they are for profit or non profit. I just don't like the ducking and weaving to come up with a 0 balance at the end of the year so they can not pay taxes. We all have to pay so should they.
I don't disagree but with a non profit the tax is not just passed on to the consumer. Boiled down my biggest problem is anybody trying to profit of me doing something I should be able to do myself and calling a different name to skirt around the law. The cc's around here pay 1500-2000 a lb then sell for 8 bucks. It straight up highway robbery.
 

Gmack420

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They're setup that way for a bunch of legal reasons - if they weren't blatantly breaking the law as written they'd probably just setup shop as normal I'd imagine and if they weren't forced to only sell for medical reasons as well - it's used like an extra legal leg to stand on - right or wrong. Everyone is obviously getting paid in these. Prices at them continue to decline. Use your discretion as to which you visit. Some are more obviously out to make a quick buck than others. Anyway, I don't use them much personally. I visit the compassion club in Victoria regularly to use their vaporizer when I'm around. Sometimes I pick up a small sample here and there to try. But mostly not.
I understand the legal reasons they do it. I just don't like it. If you're operating and illigal bussiness then go for it. But it irks me to see them abusimg the system. None are real, deal "not for profits" as for prices declining I disagree I check 5-10 places in Vancouver that openly list their prices online and they've stayed the same or gone up if the store has gained popularity(medpotnow cough cough) and service has gone down. The green option society was one of my favs but it's recently shut down I'm assuming due to the new can city regs on acceptable locations. They had the cheapest mid-hq meds and never once shipped me anything I was pissed about. Every other dispensary I've used I cannot say that say about. To bad they are gone hope they open back up soon. $125 oz of good meds was nice while it lasted.
 

Gmack420

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I don't disagree but with a non profit the tax is not just passed on to the consumer. Boiled down my biggest problem is anybody trying to profit of me doing something I should be able to do myself and calling a different name to skirt around the law. The cc's around here pay 1500-2000 a lb then sell for 8 bucks. It straight up highway robbery.
I've seen many non profits charge tax! And they seem to not answer when you ask what's your gst number? Lol so they are tryin to have it both ways. And see a not for profit would be run out of a basement or garage for close to what they paid wholesale. Get it no profit! Just charge enough to get the bulk meds and keep the light on/pay very little overhead. Pass the savings onto the sick... But no one is doing that currently.
 

nobody important 666

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I don't disagree but with a non profit the tax is not just passed on to the consumer. Boiled down my biggest problem is anybody trying to profit of me doing something I should be able to do myself and calling a different name to skirt around the law. The cc's around here pay 1500-2000 a lb then sell for 8 bucks. It straight up highway robbery.
Heres my other problem if dg's supply for their patients and patients can only grow for themselves where is the cc's getting their supply from. This is the reason why we are in court. The old system was being abused so bad hc had no choice but to change. I hate it but we can put the blame exactly where it needs to be. on cc's
 

Jackal69

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What's the fucking big shit added deal about not for profit???
I believe some of you think it's some kind of charity thing???
You know you could pull 6 figures out of a not for profit.... get it? Means the business doesn't profit but the board of directors sure fucking does
 

The_Herban_Legend

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Well any "not for profit" is just flat out full of shit IMO. Paying yourself whatever profit you make then claiming on taxes that the shop never turned a profit is as scummy as they come. That's what these non profits do. They pay the employees/owners a salary and then bonus's to cover any profits they make on paper. Tbh dispensary quality has nothing to do with if they are for profit or non profit. I just don't like the ducking and weaving to come up with a 0 balance at the end of the year so they can not pay taxes. We all have to pay so should they.
I am not sure where you reside, but I know of a couple Sate's, that mandate you be a not for profit. Let's look at the State of New Mexico for example, all dispensaries must be a not for profit business. This business structure, has kept the feds from raiding any of the dispensaries in New Mexico. No offense, but I think you might be misconstrued of the inner workings of a not for profit business. Every business has to make a profit to survive. Not for profits are no different. They must net a profit at the end of the day or they too would close the doors. Where you live, the laws maybe different, just speaking on the State of New Mexico. Peace
 
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The_Herban_Legend

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I've seen many non profits charge tax! And they seem to not answer when you ask what's your gst number? Lol so they are tryin to have it both ways. And see a not for profit would be run out of a basement or garage for close to what they paid wholesale. Get it no profit! Just charge enough to get the bulk meds and keep the light on/pay very little overhead. Pass the savings onto the sick... But no one is doing that currently.
Of course they charge tax. They are not tax exempt. Let's not forget, it's still illegal under Federal law. They have to pay uncle Sam.
 

nobody important 666

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For profit or not for profit doesn't matter. They are a big reason why we can't grow for ourselves. That's the problem. We are not Americans so you can stuff it. Don't piss in my face and call it rain.
 

The_Herban_Legend

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I have no problems with a for profit business but dont tell people you are trying to help medical patients. Keep that crap for rec. If it aint legal where you are from then dont pretend to be something your not.
What if they mandate all dispensaries be not for profit? Like they do in the State of New Mexico.
 

nobody important 666

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What if they mandate all dispensaries be not for profit? Like they do in the State of New Mexico.
Still would be against them. I did not serve my country to keep it free so someone could profit off me for something I should be able to myself. We here in canada have lost that right because of cc's screwing the system. So I will never give a dime to one. Ive said it before the lps suck but at least they dont lie to my face.
 

OGEvilgenius

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I don't disagree but with a non profit the tax is not just passed on to the consumer. Boiled down my biggest problem is anybody trying to profit of me doing something I should be able to do myself and calling a different name to skirt around the law. The cc's around here pay 1500-2000 a lb then sell for 8 bucks. It straight up highway robbery.
Most stores have around a 100% markup on items cost because of other underlying costs (any business - the volume these ones do could justify a smaller markup but regardless...)... look, there are some shady places out there. And it's definitely priced too high currently, but that's not really on the dispensaries. They are breaking the law. You are totally free to grow your own but if you're unwilling to risk the punishment then what can you really say? Your issue is a lot more with government policy than most dispensaries IMO.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Still would be against them. I did not serve my country to keep it free so someone could profit off me for something I should be able to myself. We here in canada have lost that right because of cc's screwing the system. So I will never give a dime to one. Ive said it before the lps suck but at least they dont lie to my face.

You lost the right because the government is full of criminal fuck tards who want to control everything. Again, your blame is greatly misplaced IMO. The buyers club in Victoria is still paying legal bills from the last case they had. The Vics is in the same boat. I think you are pointing your frustrations at the wrong people.
 

nobody important 666

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You lost the right because the government is full of criminal fuck tards who want to control everything. Again, your blame is greatly misplaced IMO. The buyers club in Victoria is still paying legal bills from the last case they had. The Vics is in the same boat. I think you are pointing your frustrations at the wrong people.
If the gov was so against they had 11 yrs to go after it. I do agree harper does have a hardon for us but if cc's and dg's didn't give him the ammo he would have never pulled the trigger.
 

Gmack420

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I am not sure where you reside, but I know of a couple Sate's, that mandate you be a not for profit. Let's look at the State of New Mexico for example, all dispensaries must be a not for profit business. This business structure, has kept the feds from raiding any of the dispensaries in New Mexico. No offense, but I think you might be misconstrued of the inner workings of a not for profit business. Every business has to make a profit to survive. Not for profits are no different. They must net a profit at the end of the day or they too would close the doors. Where you live, the laws maybe different, just speaking on the State of New Mexico. Peace
Canada were apparently all for profit.
 

Gmack420

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Of course they charge tax. They are not tax exempt. Let's not forget, it's still illegal under Federal law. They have to pay uncle Sam.
Not in Canada. They can't get a tax number because all dispensarys are illigal. So an illigal bussiness collecting tax has no way of remitting that tax to the Feds. It's just another cash grab.
 
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