Is healthcare a right or a privilege?

Is healthcare a right or a privilege?

  • A right

    Votes: 9 81.8%

  • A privilege

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • Total voters
    11
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schuylaar

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TBoneJack said:
Other countries don't have our welfare, social security, litigation, defense, medicare, medicade, etc expenses we do.

And add national health care (really GOOD care, like senators have)? And we're already so far in debt...
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if you read this article in its entirety, it answers your questions rather nicely and makes sense.

if you disagree with anything, lets discuss.

your friend,

schuylaar
xxoo:fire:

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0111-jones-ex-pat-american-20150111-story.html
 
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schuylaar

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MuyLocoNC said:
Precisely.
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In the Scandinavian countries, long considered to be the most socially progressive in the world, a national (physical and mental) health program is a big part — but only a part — of a more general social welfare system. In Norway, where I live, all citizens also have access to free education from age 6 through specialty training or university; low cost, subsidized preschool; unemployment benefits, job-placement and paid retraining; paid parental leave; old age pensions, and more. These benefits are not a "safety net" — that is, charitable payments grudgingly bestowed upon the needy. They are universal: equally available as a human right, promoting social harmony.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0111-jones-ex-pat-american-20150111-story.html
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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schuylaar said:
In the Scandinavian countries, long considered to be the most socially progressive in the world, a national (physical and mental) health program is a big part — but only a part — of a more general social welfare system. In Norway, where I live, all citizens also have access to free education from age 6 through specialty training or university; low cost, subsidized preschool; unemployment benefits, job-placement and paid retraining; paid parental leave; old age pensions, and more. These benefits are not a "safety net" — that is, charitable payments grudgingly bestowed upon the needy. They are universal: equally available as a human right, promoting social harmony.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0111-jones-ex-pat-american-20150111-story.html
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That's awesome for you. Let me help you with your relocation.

http://www.cheapflights.com/flights/denmark/
 
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schuylaar

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ChesusRice said:
I think it should be a right.
Unfortunatly in this country its a privilege. The Moneyed want the working man to have no rights to healthcare, welfare, unemployment or worker representation.

It takes away from their power over the employee. How many people do you know that kept working at a shitty job because of the health insurance?
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to blame:

trigger-happiness, cutthroat free-marketeering, and "exceptionality."

is having a gun a right or privilege, men?

who has the balls to answer this?
 
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schuylaar

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The_Herban_Legend said:
Germany
Mexico

Japan has been economically stagnate for over 20 years. What about Germany in the early 1900's? The only reason this country is still afloat is because oil is only bought and sold by the U.S. dollar. What do you think will happen if they decided to change that to the yen?
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Many countries have had some form of national healthcare since the 1930s, Germany since 1880. Some versions, as in France and Britain, have devolved into two-tier public and private systems. Yet even the privileged would not begrudge their fellow citizens government-funded comprehensive healthcare. That so many Americans do strikes Europeans as baffling, if not brutal.
 
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schuylaar

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The_Herban_Legend said:
Sounds good on paper right? But without those social services, that millions depend upon, people will riot and cause chaos, resulting in a depreciation in the quality of their lives, and your life as well. Look at the bigger picture my friend,
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In Norway, all citizens also have access to free education from age 6 through specialty training or university; low cost, subsidized preschool; unemployment benefits, job-placement and paid retraining; paid parental leave; old age pensions, and more. These benefits are not a "safety net" — that is, charitable payments grudgingly bestowed upon the needy. They are universal: equally available as a human right, promoting social harmony.
 
The_Herban_Legend

The_Herban_Legend

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schuylaar said:
In Norway, all citizens also have access to free education from age 6 through specialty training or university; low cost, subsidized preschool; unemployment benefits, job-placement and paid retraining; paid parental leave; old age pensions, and more. These benefits are not a "safety net" — that is, charitable payments grudgingly bestowed upon the needy. They are universal: equally available as a human right, promoting social harmony.
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I am on your side of the argument my friend.
 
The_Herban_Legend

The_Herban_Legend

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schuylaar said:
Many countries have had some form of national healthcare since the 1930s, Germany since 1880. Some versions, as in France and Britain, have devolved into two-tier public and private systems. Yet even the privileged would not begrudge their fellow citizens government-funded comprehensive healthcare. That so many Americans do strikes Europeans as baffling, if not brutal.
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Again, I agree with you.
 
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