disappointed with 'shrooms..over and over

SnotNazi

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next time you buy them get fat ass stems .. the stems have the blue goo in them you want that .. people always are about the caps. but the stems carry more
SO TRUE!! I used to binge on shrooms when I was a teenager and blue stems are the tastiest shrooms with the best trips! Two stems will get you way more blasted then a dozen caps - with certain strains. Never understood peoples obsession with the caps, stems is were it is at. As for your comment on the amount it took, there are tons of strains just like weed. Some weed you can only smoke a pinner while others you have to smoke a half quarter and still don't feel shit. My first time doing shrooms I took 7 grams. Just take 1.5-2 grams at a time wait 1-1.5 hr if you're not high take some more. Just keep an eye out for the yawns, if you start yawning a lot but you are not high yet give it a little bit more time before you pop more as you might end up over doing it. Either way, get a real high off of shrooms and you will love it. I would love to do them now but IDK if I could handle an 8hr trip anymore....lol
 

rory420420

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SO TRUE!! I used to binge on shrooms when I was a teenager and blue stems are the tastiest shrooms with the best trips! Two stems will get you way more blasted then a dozen caps - with certain strains. Never understood peoples obsession with the caps, stems is were it is at. As for your comment on the amount it took, there are tons of strains just like weed. Some weed you can only smoke a pinner while others you have to smoke a half quarter and still don't feel shit. My first time doing shrooms I took 7 grams. Just take 1.5-2 grams at a time wait 1-1.5 hr if you're not high take some more. Just keep an eye out for the yawns, if you start yawning a lot but you are not high yet give it a little bit more time before you pop more as you might end up over doing it. Either way, get a real high off of shrooms and you will love it. I would love to do them now but IDK if I could handle an 8hr trip anymore....lol
Its all the same organism,no one part is more potent than the other...
 

phil k

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SO TRUE!! I used to binge on shrooms when I was a teenager and blue stems are the tastiest shrooms with the best trips! Two stems will get you way more blasted then a dozen caps - with certain strains. Never understood peoples obsession with the caps, stems is were it is at. As for your comment on the amount it took, there are tons of strains just like weed. Some weed you can only smoke a pinner while others you have to smoke a half quarter and still don't feel shit. My first time doing shrooms I took 7 grams. Just take 1.5-2 grams at a time wait 1-1.5 hr if you're not high take some more. Just keep an eye out for the yawns, if you start yawning a lot but you are not high yet give it a little bit more time before you pop more as you might end up over doing it. Either way, get a real high off of shrooms and you will love it. I would love to do them now but IDK if I could handle an 8hr trip anymore....lol
yeah we used to pedal 1.5g as trips when we were young .. dank shrooms will lift someone off with that amount.. someone whose a "multi tripper" 1.5 is like a single hit of acid.. makes you happy and your balls itch!! .. thats it.. LOL...
i know i could rock a 8th a boomers anymore id like to say i could but that for me would be a long fucking day.. as a kid it was like "shit i can't wait to trip again!!!!" now.. i can wait .. LOL but i do miss it sometimes
 

phil k

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but even by weight measurements a stem will carry more .. if you ate a 8th of stems Vs. a 8th of caps id have to say stems win IMOP..
 

SnotNazi

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And in fact,the magic blue you see is DEGRADED psilocybin..so LESS than should be...
No it's not, it's bruising on the stem when mishandled or handled roughly before drying. You'll notice 90% of the time the bottoms of the stems are what is blue and it's from the grower pinching and pulling at the base. Where do you get your info from? Mushrooms are often identified by bruising or bleeding the shroom cap or stem to see what colour it is to determine species. This has nothing to do with the psilocybin degrading or potency, speaking of which, I think the only way to degrade psilocybin is either heat or time and no colour change is associated with that....if you have a scientific article stating otherwise, please share.
 

marquezmurder

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Talked to one of my buddies about this last night, he thinks it was just a matter of degraded potency. I guess he knows the person i got them off of, and they had them sitting around for awhile because they couldn't move em, then i forgot about them for a couple months..so..IDK. They were sealed in a ziplock that had the air sucked out of it, in a sandwich bag, in a drawer. He's been thinking about growing some, he's done it a few times before, and i guess this got the fire under him. He said something about some super potent strain he's going to try and get. I don't remember which, he was rattling off different ones all night long..he knows his mushrooms..lol. he's also been trying to talk me into trying ayahuasca with him..IDK about that right now.
Grow your own, cause why not? I also would not know about degraded potency.
why do you ask? my grandmother is full blooded cherokee.if you grow your own shrooms properly and eat an eighth you'll have a whole new opinion on mushrooms, i promise. my buddy was just like you. he swore shrooms were garbage until the day he finally got a good batch and they smacked him in the face.
The reason I ask is because my friends that have native blood, IMO, have more freakout moments and blackouts. Now I dont trip with people often but I do hangout with people when they trip, as a good friend should. The instance that I last mentioned with the table was one of my native friends who is native. I also met a kid fresh off the reservation, he was staying with a close friend of mine; But after multiples of these incidents(around his kid) he eventually had to kick him out. I dont want to seem racist but in my eyes it goes along with the "Natives are crazy when drunk" thing.
 

CCCmints

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Grow your own, cause why not? I also would not know about degraded potency.

The reason I ask is because my friends that have native blood, IMO, have more freakout moments and blackouts. Now I dont trip with people often but I do hangout with people when they trip, as a good friend should. The instance that I last mentioned with the table was one of my native friends who is native. I also met a kid fresh off the reservation, he was staying with a close friend of mine; But after multiples of these incidents(around his kid) he eventually had to kick him out. I dont want to seem racist but in my eyes it goes along with the "Natives are crazy when drunk" thing.
i'm also a little crazy when drunk...lol. never attributed all this to being native though. interesting.
 

rory420420

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No it's not, it's bruising on the stem when mishandled or handled roughly before drying. You'll notice 90% of the time the bottoms of the stems are what is blue and it's from the grower pinching and pulling at the base. Where do you get your info from? Mushrooms are often identified by bruising or bleeding the shroom cap or stem to see what colour it is to determine species. This has nothing to do with the psilocybin degrading or potency, speaking of which, I think the only way to degrade psilocybin is either heat or time and no colour change is associated with that....if you have a scientific article stating otherwise, please share.
So bruising is a term for PRESERVATION now..I see...
Continue on lil spunions . ..
 

rory420420

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Except Psilocybe semilanceata (liberty cap), and several others. It's commonly believed that the oxidation of psilocin causes bluing, and liberty caps have very low amounts of psilocin, if any.
Some species in the Boletus genus will also bruise blue, however this is not a sign of psychoactivity. There was an article published recently on which compounds actually cause bluing in Boletus species. But they can easily be differentiated from Psilocybes because they have pores, not gills.
Also, some species which contain certain levels of psilocin (and bruise blue), from the Inocybe and Galerina could very easily be poisonous or even deadly.
So you see..
 

SnotNazi

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rory420420 said:
So bruising is a term for PRESERVATION now..I see...
Continue on lil spunions . ..
Who said anything about preservation? I merely said that the blue is from bruising and not from degradation of the psilocybin....your article reference states not all mushrooms turn blue upon bruising and then confirms that certain types of shrooms can bruise blue and then continues to say that other mushrooms may mimic this trait but that this may not be representative of psychoactivity. I see that you have proven my point, negated yours, and that any further comments are moot.
 
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rob333

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I've done then a few times over the last few years and have been pretty disappointed with the effects. My friends eat a couple G's and get body and visual effects, one friend was seeing kaleidoscope effects this weekend, I ate 3g's this weekend but i only got very mild visuals, and it only lasted about 1.5 hrs.. it's like that every time....the only time i liked em was when I ate around 7G's at once. Is it normal to need to eat upwards of 6-7 G's to get effects? I have mild Crohns, which I've been told makes nutrient absorption difficult so I'm wondering if that's a factor..I'm just not processing them fully..meaning i need to eat more to get the same effects as someone without digestive issues? I'm still sitting on 3G's..wondering if i should just give em to my friends..they'll probably enjoy em more than me..is there anyway to increase the effects?
damn the mushrooms u get must suck i ate 3 about 4 days ago and can still feel the mild effects from them
 

rory420420

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Who said anything about preservation? I merely said that the blue is from bruising and not from degradation of the psilocybin....your article reference states not all mushrooms turn blue upon bruising and then confirms that certain types of shrooms can bruise blue and then continues to say that other mushrooms may mimic this trait but that this may not be representative of psychoactivity. I see that you have proven my point, negated yours, and that any further comments are moot.
Bruise..as in injure,or degrade..its OK bro..you go be right...I don't really care to show unwilling people knowledge..its much more amusing in the long run,usually profitable as well...
 

rory420420

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Both the caps and the stems contain the psychoactive compounds, although the caps consistently contain more. The spores of these mushrooms do not contain psilocybin or psilocin.[36][37][38] The total potency varies greatly between species and even between specimens of a species collected or grown from the same strain.[39]Because most psilocybin biosynthesis occurs early in the formation of fruit bodies orsclerotia, younger, smaller mushrooms tend to have a higher concentration of the drug than larger, mature mushrooms.[40] In general, the psilocybin content of mushrooms is quite variable (ranging from almost nothing to 1.5% of the dry weight)[41] and depends on species, strain, growth and drying conditions, and mushroom size.[42] Cultivated mushrooms have less variability in psilocybin content than wild mushrooms.[43] The drug is more stable in dried than fresh mushrooms; dried mushrooms retain their potency for months or even years,[44] while mushrooms stored fresh for four weeks contain only traces of the original psilocybin.[45] The psilocybin contents of dried herbarium specimens of Psilocybe semilanceata in one study were shown to decrease with the increasing age of the sample: collections dated 11, 33, or 118 years old contained 0.84%, 0.67%, and 0.014% (all dry weight), respectively.[46] Mature mycelia contain some psilocybin, while young mycelia (recently germinated from spores) lack appreciable amounts.[47] Many species of mushrooms containing psilocybin also contain lesser amounts of the analog compounds baeocystin and norbaeocystin,[48] chemicals thought to be biogenicprecursors.[49] Although most species of psilocybin-containing mushrooms bruise blue when handled or damaged due to the oxidization of phenolic compounds, this reaction is not a definitive method of identification or determining a mushroom's potency.[39][50]
 
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