The positive, economic effect of lowering the minimum wage to $0

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schuylaar

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see4 said:
"If 100% taxation off your labor is slavery, which percent is 'not slavery' ?" -- I have an answer for this. The answer is; When chicken fish see tire in moon carpet, it asks when glasses pick dirt knuckles.


You must smoke some amazing shit dude, because you are literally bat shit crazy.
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is that like..
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog?
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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see4 said:
If you're a farmer who works for himself, why again are you crying about being forced to pay income tax? Aren't you subsidized?
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Aren't you?

For starts, this subsidized stuff is bullshit with most farmers. I'd like to see wimps like you try farming for 3 years. After mother nature kicks your ass every which way but Sunday, you've experienced nothing but losses and real mental anguish because you can not control acts of God, you'd be back in some public housing unit living off welfare subsidies that hard working taxpayers like me are funding.
 
see4

see4

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Rob Roy said:
Read, ponder, smoke some dope....then imagine...oh my god what if he's right? Yes, Martha theft is theft regardless if the mob does it or the elected gang does it.


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Avoiding the question and avoiding the facts won't get you far in a debate, and certainly won't get you far in life.

Again, nobody forced you to go work for a company that asks you to sign a W4. Your avoidance on this matter is obvious and transparent.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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see4 said:
If you're a farmer who works for himself, why again are you crying about being forced to pay income tax? Aren't you subsidized?
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No. I don't and won't accept money taken from other people under duress. I am not a large farmer either, more of a homesteader trying to live peacefully and quietly. I had alot of money stolen back when I was a salaried guy in the rat race, but I quit that game and have committed to being a Sasquatch and eating turnips.
 
see4

see4

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Uncle Ben said:
Aren't you?

For starts, this subsidized stuff is bullshit with most farmers. I'd like to see wimps like you try farming for 3 years. After mother nature kicks your ass every which way but Sunday, you've experienced nothing but losses and real mental anguish because you can not control acts of God, you'd be back in some public housing unit living off welfare subsidies that hard working taxpayers like me are funding.
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No Uncle Duke, I'm not being forced to pay taxes, when I created my businesses, I did so knowingly and willingly that I would be paying taxes. If I didn't want to pay taxes, I wouldn't have started the type of businesses I started. If I wanted to live on American soil but not contribute to society at all, I would have found a different line of work.

One side of your coin hates immigrants who come to this country, and some look for work that pays under the table to avoid taxation. The other side of your coin says, fuck the government, they're forcing me to pay taxes, or in other words, you'd like to work under the table to avoid taxation, just like the immigrants you hate so much.

Derp.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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see4 said:
Avoiding the question and avoiding the facts won't get you far in a debate, and certainly won't get you far in life.

Again, nobody forced you to go work for a company that asks you to sign a W4. Your avoidance on this matter is obvious and transparent.
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Good point. Sure, let's argue...

Okay, tell me which percent of theft (taxation) makes a person not enslaved? I think we can agree that 100% of your money taken from you against your will is theft.

So, if I see your 6'4" athletic body with a bulbous package walking down an alley and I jump you and use all my old decrepit silver back strength and easily subdue you, (cuz I could) but only take 50% of your money against your will, did I rob you?
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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see4 said:
Avoiding the question and avoiding the facts won't get you far in a debate, and certainly won't get you far in life.

Again, nobody forced you to go work for a company that asks you to sign a W4. Your avoidance on this matter is obvious and transparent.
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More of your misguided bullshit. There isn't a company in the U.S. that doesn't require a new hire to sign a W4, and a million other gov documents.
 
see4

see4

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Rob Roy said:
No. I don't and won't accept money taken from other people under duress. I am not a large farmer either, more of a homesteader trying to live peacefully and quietly. I had alot of money stolen back when I was a salaried guy in the rat race, but I quit that game and have committed to being a Sasquatch and eating turnips.
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So tell us all again what you're crying about?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Uncle Ben said:
More of your misguided bullshit. There isn't a company in the U.S. that doesn't require a new hire to sign a W4, and a million other gov documents.
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He does seem to have a bit of trouble distinguishing the difference between a consented to agreement and one made under duress doesn't he?
 
see4

see4

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Rob Roy said:
Good point. Sure, let's argue...

Okay, tell me which percent of theft (taxation) makes a person not enslaved? I think we can agree that 100% of your money taken from you against your will is theft.

So, if I see your 6'4" athletic body with a bulbous package walking down an alley and I jump you and use all my old decrepit silver back strength and easily subdue you, (cuz I could) but only take 50% of your money against your will, did I rob you?
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Yawn.

Were you forced to sign the W4?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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see4 said:
Yawn.

Were you forced to sign the W4?
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Hey c'mon that post was dripping with opportunity and you discard it just like that? Oh, I am hurt sir, very hurt.


So which percent of money taken from a person absent their consent creates a theft?
 
see4

see4

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Uncle Ben said:
You expect me to believe this crap? The hell you say.
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I think I know the problem. You, being a white supremacist and all, think the black man in office is squandering all our hard earned money on building a gigantic Kenyan army. And therefore you think that tax dollars go to nothing that help the economy, the infrastructure, etc etc.

Your tinfoil hat is large and in charge. Derp.
 
see4

see4

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Rob Roy said:
Hey c'mon that post was dripping with opportunity and you discard it just like that? Oh, I am hurt sir, very hurt.


So which percent of money taken from a person absent their consent creates a theft?
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You first.

Were you forced to sign the W4?
 
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