Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

[SirGreenThumb]

That's because you are a narrow minded narcissist who thinks the world revolves around you.

You have your point of view, and I have the right one.

LoL

You lost all credibility once you posted those song lyrics. ( I know every single song from Eminem)

I do have one question for you, lets see if you can just answer it.

When did you graduate college?

 

[abandonconflict]

You know what is even funnier. The fact you cant face me directly.

Coward?
Drug brain?

Just take a handful of pills and be done with it.

Hi sweetie. You're back! I knew you missed me.

 

[Pinworm]

I know every single song from Eminem

 

[Red1966]

That's called necessary labor

An imaginary distinction

In order for capitalism to function, surplus labor must exist - the labor the employer takes from the worker to give a bigger portion to himself, his executives, his shareholders and politicians, to pay taxes, to grow the business, and to pay managers and clerks who don't actually produce anything themselves.

All those things are neecessary for a business to function. Are you really claiming excutives, managers, and clerks don't deserve a paycheck? Or they haven't contributed to the enterprise?

If surplus labor didn't exist capitalism wouldn't work. If a worker produces $20 worth of labor, there would be no logical reason for the employer to pay the worker $20, then he obviously wouldn't make a profit. The surplus labor is the labor the worker produced that the employer didn't pay for. If the worker produces $20 worth of labor, the wage the employer would need to give him in order for capitalism to function correctly is less than what his labor actually produced.

The work hasn't produced $20. The $20 isn't "produced" until the product is sold. The employer paid for all the labor, not some portion you artificially designate.

Walmart employees who require social safety net programs to pay bills and/or eat is a direct subsidy from the taxpayers to Walmart

Walmart hasn't recieved shit The employee recieves the subsidy.
Your theories are nonsense.

 

[Pinworm]

An imaginary distinction

All those things are neecessary for a business to function. Are you really claiming excutives, managers, and clerks don't deserve a paycheck? Or they haven't contributed to the enterprise?

The work hasn't produced $20. The $20 isn't "produced" until the product is sold. The employer paid for all the labor, not some portion you artificially designate.

Walmart hasn't recieved shit The employee recieves the subsidy.
Your theories are nonsense.

Wellllllll look who learned to multiquote. Good job buddy! High fives?

Reported for double post.

 

[Red1966]

Now the same asshole who published that figure has posted a different figure, proving at least one of his claims was a lie. I note that you were unable to site the claim. You appear to be a male in your photo.

 

[londonfog]

LoL

You lost all credibility once you posted those song lyrics. ( I know every single song from Eminem)

I do have one question for you, lets see if you can just answer it.

When did you graduate college?

Hey have you made your little Asian girlfriend get anymore abortions and then post the drama on the internet ?

 

[Red1966]

Sometimes yes. They are currently in the middle of a suit dealing with making people work off the clock. They are not getting paid for this work.

Employees were threatened with termination if they didn't work.

Edit: here's just one suit-

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0JU1XJ20141216

So. not "currently" at all. You fail to comprehend the date in your citation?

 

[sheskunk]

I made a living wage this week.

How the fuck is that even possible?

 

[Pinworm]

I made a living wage this week.

How the fuck is that even possible?

You're new boyfriend, Greenthumb is hot. We should all get lubed up and do some butt stuff together.

 

[Red1966]

Wellllllll look who learned to multiquote. Good job buddy! High fives?

Reported for double post.

Note to multiquote was in response to the same poster? You seem to think you have some say over how others post. You are mistaken.

 

[Pinworm]

Note to multiquote was in response to the same poster? You seem to think you have some say over how others post. You are mistaken.

Go back and read your failure posts again, Red. You said the same dumb thing twice. And, then you said it again. How embarrassing....

 

[Red1966]

Sure, I'll cite a multi-year study by a sales manager/trainer/store manager with 15 years of firsthand experience in the retail environment and car business. He was so proficient at sales and customer service, that he retired at age 37. I'd like to introduce you to me.

So never worked at Walmart, yet try to pretend you know these figures. Sorry, claiming you are infallible doesn't qualify as a reliable source.

 

[Red1966]

Go back and read your failure posts again, Red. You said the same dumb thing twice. And, then you said it again. How embarrassing....

Even repitition fails to educate you. Your failure, not mine.

 

[Red1966]

Trimmers get paid TOP dollar, why would a business do it any other way? Makes great business sense, always have highest quality employee, retention, product and 'loyalty.' Paying more is one of the best things a well running business can do.

Businesses do pay more for top quality employees. Paying bottom quality employees more doesn't make them any better.

 

[Red1966]

And if they didn't have the surveillance those kids would rob them of a quarter of what they trim.

Everyone from top to bottom deserves a working wage. I do it. My father does it. My step-father does it. Paying more is the best thing a successful business to do to improve themselves Immediately and lastingly.

Paying more for better employees does improve the business. Paying more for poor employees has the opposite effect.

 

[Pinworm]

Even repitition fails to educate you. Your failure, not mine.

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This one:



Thanks for the "education", Red.....

 

[londonfog]

Paying more for better employees does improve the business. Paying more for poor employees has the opposite effect.

You don't think paying someone well, makes them loyal and want to work harder for the business ? versus paying them poorly

 

[Red1966]

Any evidence to support or defend any of the nonsensical theories you and the other financial white knights of Wal-Mart have been espousing in this thread

If you want to talk climate change, you'll first have to explain what you would accept as legitimate evidence, but for some strange reason, you can't seem to do that..

I wonder (I don't wonder) why...

What "evidence" is there that proves something didn't happen? How about Al Gore, the leading proponant of Global Warming buying beachfront property?

 

[Red1966]

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Thanks for the "education", Red.....

Perhaps I double clicked? Sue me. How does posting that negate my claim that repitition isn't enough to educate you?