Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

[Mindmelted]

Why should anybody give a "shit" what you want? You don't own the company.

Buy the fucking company and give all your profits to the "underpaid and under skilled". You could start your own and compete with whatever company you choose; show the competition how it's done. Talk is cheap.

Face it, you have no practical "concept" how to implement any of this crap you're yapping about or you would have done it already.

You're just a "blow hard" with nothing useful to say, going for a record length thread of uselessness.

While feverishly typing away in mom's basement.

 

[schuylaar]

Sounds wonderful. How do we do that? I love how you just said we should do away with all government assistance programs and give it to the businesses of your choosing. Kinda sucks for Medicaid patients, but, hey, them sickos think they gotta live forever? Tell you the truth, I never knew Walmart got $7.8 billion a year in subsidies. I'd be interested in seeing a citation for that.

 

[schuylaar]

While feverishly typing away in mom's basement.

not funny.

the line belongs to bucky.

fail.

 

[althor]

I want the CEO and top officers to take the grotesque profits they give themselves, their shareholders and politicians and give it to who rightfully owns it; the workers

It is easy to see you have never held a position of responsibility...

The workers are dime a dozen and can be replaced like toilet paper.

 

[spandy]

It is easy to see you have never held a position of responsibility...

The workers are dime a dozen and can be replaced like toilet paper.

But living wage? Special snowflake? Beautiful?

 

[schuylaar]

It is easy to see you have never held a position of responsibility...

The workers are dime a dozen and can be replaced like toilet paper.

yeah? on who's dime? turnover effects everyone (and everything) negatively..even mr. employer's bottom line.

it's been proven employee retention is the more preferred way to go these days..not like in the '50's and 60's.

when employees feel (and shown) they are valued, they perform.

 

[Harrekin]

Are you denying the fact that Walmart employees spend $6.2 billion per year in public assistance because their wages are too low to pay their bills and/or eat?

It seems pretty logically inconsistent to believe it's perfectly acceptable to transfer that expense onto taxpayers instead of holding Walmart accountable, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on that

I mean, all this talk about theft and who's actually stealing from who, Walmart is stealing from hard working poor and middle class American taxpayers when the government hands them these subsidies

Maybe go read a little bit about it sometime

So, is Walmart witholding the wages they contracted their staff for?

 

[OddBall1st]

Wrong.

This thread is about workers earning what's rightfully theirs by discussing the shortcomings of capitalism, and income inequality

You seem very confused..

Where were you earlier in the thread when I said 25 x's more than the average worker is perfectly acceptable CEO income, 325 x's at the expense of the poor/middle class is not. Why do you believe it's OK for the CEO and top executives to steal the workers surplus labor and give it to themselves and their shareholders? Or give it to politicians by way of campaign contributions for business and tax subsidies and changes to legislation in their favor?

Where do you think the money comes from to increase CEO income by that much over the course of 40 years when in previous years it was relatively stable? You said "technology and globalization" to answer that question before without providing any evidence to support it, so, I'm still waiting on that..

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at the facts and objectively interpret the data, and you and a few other people are so personally invested in the narrative you've created absent those facts, that nothing will deter you in thinking otherwise. Take for example the issue of anthropogenic climate change; The overwhelming majority of the world's scientists accept it as fact, more clear than the connection of tobacco and lung cancer, and what do you and the rest of the opponents of a living wage do? Deny the science... NASA is one of the leading scientific organizations studying the causes and effects of climate change, so what do the republicans and people you support in government do as soon as they take control? Defund the programs and try to stifle progress through financial attrition...

Disgraceful.

You have been answered, you don`t like the answer cuz you judge need proof of something or you can`t function. If you are asking, how will you know the correct answer or even if the evidence is correct ? You don`t and want your answer and nothing else.

In fact, your concern is so valued and important that the only one`s who think the workers get all the profits are right here in this thread. If what you say is true, lawyers from all over the globe would be right there supporting paddy. But they`re not, Care to guess Why ? That`s right, you are out of your mind and you have no clue about running a business or what a worker is entitled to. Profit sharing is not new and it`s certainly not mandatory of every employer.

Nobody is denying the science behind that warming scam, people are denying that taxing people today, and leaving that money unaccounted for, will not effect global warming one bit, at all. If the global disaster is set in motion already, it`s too late, spend that tax on survival, don`t give it to science.......or Obama and his Democrats to play with.

You are a fool paddy, and you cry like one too. Sorry but you can`t state ridiculously stupid thoughts and expect everyone to congratulate you.

Fight the good fight for a good wage that you can live on, but never forget, you don`t tell the boss what you deserve, the boss tells you. That I truly believe is your issue with working for a living......

 

[OddBall1st]

yeah? on who's dime? turnover effects everyone (and everything) negatively..even mr. employer's bottom line.

it's been proven employee retention is the more preferred way to go these days..not like in the '50's and 60's.

when employees feel (and shown) they are valued, they perform.

You`re working on the bosses time and dime, it was you that seek employment with them, not the other way around, otherwise you would still be looking in the help wanted adds. Remember how to feed your kids before you go on strike......

 

[OddBall1st]

Paddy and Schu are a prime example of how people end up thinking when Government handouts become expected and they steal money from others that have earned it, to give out to someone else. Just like those CEO`s do, Right Paddy ?

Where does the money for handouts from the government come from,...trees, no, people that already earned it but got it taken away. Right Schu ??

 

[Rob Roy]

I want the CEO and top officers to take the grotesque profits they give themselves, their shareholders and politicians and give it to who rightfully owns it; the workers

In order to truly level the playing field, you would need to remove government intervention and protectionism.

This presents a problem though, since you also want government to be YOUR protector too and forcefully cause redistribution etc..

The problem then becomes cyclical and dizzying and rather than striking the root causes it simply becomes a contest of who can "tell mom" first and get the other kid in trouble.

A TRULY free market solves this problem...but then again you don't really know what that is.

So you will continue to think the solution is to get the entity that caused the problem (coercive government) to also become the solution. Einstein had a saying about that.

 

[londonfog]

In order to truly level the playing field, you would need to remove government intervention and protectionism.

This presents a problem though, since you also want government to be YOUR protector too and forcefully cause redistribution etc..

The problem then becomes cyclical and dizzying and rather than striking the root causes it simply becomes a contest of who can "tell mom" first and get the other kid in trouble.

A TRULY free market solves this problem...but then again you don't really know what that is.

So you will continue to think the solution is to get the entity that caused the problem (coercive government) to also become the solution. Einstein had a saying about that.

Why do you hate your government so much ? Do you really think this country or world with be better without any government. Pretty much would be a free for all. You ready for the chaos ?

 

[Grandpapy]

All roads lead to McDonalds and Walmart........

Oh, I may be a little late for work, seems theres a rush on shock absorbers here in the auto center.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

So, is Walmart witholding the wages they contracted their staff for?

Sometimes yes. They are currently in the middle of a suit dealing with making people work off the clock. They are not getting paid for this work.

Employees were threatened with termination if they didn't work.

Edit: here's just one suit-

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0JU1XJ20141216

 

[Uncle Ben]

Why do you feel entitled to a seven dollar hamburger basket?
I have taken a class or two.

That wasn't the point.

Re-enroll

 

[Uncle Ben]

The workers are dime a dozen and can be replaced like toilet paper.

Like a worthless turd that just gets in the way and makes the company smell bad, the owner chortles about the worthless employee he's about to shit can - "this too shall pass".

 

[MuyLocoNC]

care to cite your source for those numbers? I think you pulled them out of your ass. Why should anybody care what your ass thinks?

Sure, I'll cite a multi-year study by a sales manager/trainer/store manager with 15 years of firsthand experience in the retail environment and car business. He was so proficient at sales and customer service, that he retired at age 37. I'd like to introduce you to me.

 

[UncleBuck]

a labour market that are too useless/unqualified to have other choices.

as if picking on rape victims wasn't enough, now you have to denigrate an entire class of people who may be working there for any number of reasons as "useless".

you big man. all 4'11'' of you. so tuff.

 

[UncleBuck]

Why should anybody give a "shit" what you want? You don't own the company.

Buy the fucking company and give all your profits to the "underpaid and under skilled". You could start your own and compete with whatever company you choose; show the competition how it's done. Talk is cheap.

Face it, you have no practical "concept" how to implement any of this crap you're yapping about or you would have done it already.

You're just a "blow hard" with nothing useful to say, going for a record length thread of uselessness.

has it been mentioned that you are quite the bitter, impotent little stooge of a klanman?

 

[UncleBuck]

The workers are dime a dozen and can be replaced like toilet paper.

that's the type of attitude to have if you want dishonest, unloyal employees who steal from you and are unreliable.

not the best way to run any business, not even the imaginary one that you want us all to believe you have.