Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?


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OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
What does minimum wage have to do with anything?
Minimum wage and earn a living wage are two different things, and a big gap between it.

He doesn`t understand that ..."minimum wage" is self defining. It means that all labor or talent is not equal but this is the least you can you can pay for it, lower would be against labor laws, which is,...ready paddy,....minimum wage.
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
Raising wages is bad for America? It must be killing profits overseas.....

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/5601-fair-work-fair-pay-lessons-from-australia#

While we in the United States are arguing over $1 increase to the minimum wage and whether or not people should get to stay home when they're sick, the rest of the world has long since passed us by. In Australia and other rich countries overseas, life is simply better than it is in America, for almost everyone.

A government that represents the majority, what a concept.
 

BDOGKush

Well-Known Member
"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics there are about 3.6 million workers at or below the minimum wage (you can be below legally under certain conditions). That is 2.5 percent of all workers and 1.5 percent of the population of potential workers. Within that small group, 31 percent are teenagers and 55 percent are 25 years old or younger. That leaves only about 1.1 percent of all workers over 25 and 0.8 percent of all Americans over 25 earning the minimum wage."

"Within that tiny group, most of these workers are not poor and are not trying to support a family on only their earnings. In fact, according to a recent study, 63 percent of workers who earn less than $9.50 per hour (well over the minimum wage of $7.25) are the second or third earner in their family and 43 percent of these workers live in households that earn over $50,000 per year. Thus, minimum wage earners are not a uniformly poor and struggling group; many are teenagers from middle class families and many more are sharing the burden of providing for their families, not carrying the load all by themselves."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2014/01/30/almost-everything-you-have-been-told-about-the-minimum-wage-is-false/
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Raising wages is bad for America? It must be killing profits overseas.....

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/5601-fair-work-fair-pay-lessons-from-australia#

While we in the United States are arguing over $1 increase to the minimum wage and whether or not people should get to stay home when they're sick, the rest of the world has long since passed us by. In Australia and other rich countries overseas, life is simply better than it is in America, for almost everyone.

A government that represents the majority, what a concept.

A government that represents the majority is nearly impossible, since the majority are not actually involved in decisions that affects them.

Also even if it were possible, a government that purports to represent the majority ( a sleight of hand and a lie) can only do so by misrepresenting or suppressing the minority.

An aggregate of individuals can sometimes feel in unison or near unison on a given topic, but to assume they will feel that way on many or all topics ain't gonna happen. Hence the lie of "government representing the majority" in large part.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
that's a fact, not an opinion.

another cool fact: wages rise faster than the cost of goods. this has been demonstrated over and over.

idiots like you and kynes and others even thought that the BLS stats were a conspiracy until i looked up prices at your locations online and found them to be at or below BLS stats.

increasing wages increases buying power you dumb 4'11'' piece of shit.

So why not increase the minimum wage to $1,000 an hour ?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
He doesn`t understand that ..."minimum wage" is self defining. It means that all labor or talent is not equal but this is the least you can you can pay for it, lower would be against labor laws, which is,...ready paddy,....minimum wage.
minimum wage has a definition therefore not self defining (nor nothing to do with skill, labor or talent):

min·i·mum wage
noun
noun: minimum wage; plural noun: minimum wages
  1. the lowest wage permitted by law or by a special agreement (such as one with a labor union).
 

BDOGKush

Well-Known Member
"The BLS data show that in 2011 labor productivity gains in the food service industry were nonexistent (that is, equal to 0 percent). In 2012, it was slightly worse; labor productivity in the food service sector dropped by 0.1 percent. In limited service restaurants, where minimum wage workers are likely to be concentrated, labor productivity fell by 2 percent in 2012 while business owners saw their unit labor costs rise by 2.8 percent. Over the past few years, these workers, as a group, not only have not earned a raise, but they are getting paid more for doing less."
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
"The BLS data show that in 2011 labor productivity gains in the food service industry were nonexistent (that is, equal to 0 percent). In 2012, it was slightly worse; labor productivity in the food service sector dropped by 0.1 percent. In limited service restaurants, where minimum wage workers are likely to be concentrated, labor productivity fell by 2 percent in 2012 while business owners saw their unit labor costs rise by 2.8 percent. Over the past few years, these workers, as a group, not only have not earned a raise, but they are getting paid more for doing less."

Funny that in order for unemployment numbers to go down the amount of people no longer counted as potential employees has to go down too huh?

It's magic.
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
A government that represents the majority is nearly impossible, since the majority are not actually involved in decisions that affects them.

Also even if it were possible, a government that purports to represent the majority ( a sleight of hand and a lie) can only do so by misrepresenting or suppressing the minority.

An aggregate of individuals can sometimes feel in unison or near unison on a given topic, but to assume they will feel that way on many or all topics ain't gonna happen. Hence the lie of "government representing the majority" in large part.
Funny what a war can do for the moral of a country.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
minimum wage has a definition therefore not self defining (nor nothing to do with skill, labor or talent):

min·i·mum wage
noun
noun: minimum wage; plural noun: minimum wages
  1. the lowest wage permitted by law or by a special agreement (such as one with a labor union).


So should I just say wages,...you already would know ,How much ? Minimum wage tells you, How much,....if it were just , wage, .... it wouldn`t.....
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
"The BLS data show that in 2011 labor productivity gains in the food service industry were nonexistent (that is, equal to 0 percent). In 2012, it was slightly worse; labor productivity in the food service sector dropped by 0.1 percent. In limited service restaurants, where minimum wage workers are likely to be concentrated, labor productivity fell by 2 percent in 2012 while business owners saw their unit labor costs rise by 2.8 percent. Over the past few years, these workers, as a group, not only have not earned a raise, but they are getting paid more for doing less."
Maybe they they found out that their counter parts overseas makes $21.00+ w/30 paid days off.
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
Unskilled workers in the food service industry make $21.00 an hour, where?
Australia.

While we in the United States are arguing over $1 increase to the minimum wage and whether or not people should get to stay home when they're sick, the rest of the world has long since passed us by. In Australia and other rich countries overseas, life is simply better than it is in America, for almost everyone.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/5601-fair-work-fair-pay-lessons-from-australia#
 
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