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shishkaboy

shishkaboy

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mdjenks said:
Chem Dog #4 is real as it did come from the original "chemdawg" ounce, we all know the story so that is as far as i am going to go with it.

Anyway I took the pic from shiskaboys post and compared it to my last run of chem dog 4 and they are very very similar, the second pic is my chem dog #4 from DHN, mine is much more frosty but the structure is the same:

And what exactly is DNL, is it suppose to be Sour Diesel, if that is the case that pic is not as I have seen Sour Diesel grown to completion and that pic is an exact representation of Chem Dog #4? And how could someone grow 1,2,3,4 when only 4 was the keeper pheno? I am confused. That DNL looks just like Chem Dog #4.

I believe this statement: "@akhiymjames It cannot be a DNL leaning pheno because according to Capitan Chem the dnl had nothing to do with the cross, even tho the resemblance is uncanny."

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Nice job on that chem 4.
How did she smell?

Dnl was one of the ones in the room when the sour d was created no one really knows exactly what happened, thats why I made my comments.
I just try to add as much as I can to the community, so when I find something interesting I usually share it.

The story is that there were 13 seeds in the ounce right?
4 were popped 3 females 1 male
Then years later 3 more were popped 1 female kept, right?
Then 4 of the original 13 beans were sent to Joe B and they were the 1,2,3,4 right?
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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shishkaboy said:
Nice job on that chem 4.
How did she smell?

Dnl was one of the ones in the room when the sour d was created no one really knows exactly what happened, thats why I made my comments.
I just try to add as much as I can to the community, so when I find something interesting I usually share it.

The story is that there were 13 seeds in the ounce right?
4 were popped 3 females 1 male
Then years later 3 more were popped 1 female kept, right?
Then 4 of the original 13 beans were sent to Joe B and they were the 1,2,3,4 right?
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Thanks for the info man, I am always glad to get information. yeah the Joe B is right but to my understanding he only kept the 4 hence Chem Dog #4, I have never heard of a 1,2, or 3.

The smell is great, danky petrol smell and will stink up ur entire place if you have it out to long. I think I have the slightly more sativa leaning pheno or its just in my head. Very large yielder at that, i will run her again for sure.

Oh I forgot to mention she has a blueberry taste which is weird and totally unexpected but in a good way.
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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AlphaPhase said:
I like sour diesels. I thought chem was used to make sour d and OG's? But what do I know :p I like all of them though. I just dusted some fem chem pollin on some stuff. Infamous strains like chemdawg will always have an influence, I guess it doesn't matter so much as who found it, it's that we have it and that's what matters.
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I totally agree man. Strain lineage stories are almost like old wives tales nobody can prove them beyond a doubt. but like you said it doesn't matter who found it it just matters that it is around for us to enjoy!
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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mdjenks said:
already getting the glue standard frost and it looks like you have a ways to go! Those are going to be frost monsters for sure if they are already putting it out this early.
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Totally, she started getting frost at week 2 and the pic is @ day 26, just unbelievable, really stoked i had a buddy track it down and gift it to me, it'll be in the garden for some time i'm sure. I'm going to take them to 70 days since I keep hearing it's much better at 70 day harvest as opposed to the usual 63 day chop

mdjenks said:
I totally agree man. Strain lineage stories are almost like old wives tales nobody can prove them beyond a doubt. but like you said it doesn't matter who found it it just matters that it is around for us to enjoy!
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For sure man, back when those cuts came around there wasn't an easy place to post info on the internet so it's one mans word vs. the next mans word. Luckily nowadays, the internet can save a lot of misleading info hassles. Like the glue, as soon as someone created it, it went on the internet for claims :p If the glue was made 15 or 20 years ago, it would have the same story as the rest of the elite cuts
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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AlphaPhase said:
Totally, she started getting frost at week 2 and the pic is @ day 26, just unbelievable, really stoked i had a buddy track it down and gift it to me, it'll be in the garden for some time i'm sure. I'm going to take them to 70 days since I keep hearing it's much better at 70 day harvest as opposed to the usual 63 day chop



For sure man, back when those cuts came around there wasn't an easy place to post info on the internet so it's one mans word vs. the next mans word. Luckily nowadays, the internet can save a lot of misleading info hassles. Like the glue, as soon as someone created it, it went on the internet for claims :p If the glue was made 15 or 20 years ago, it would have the same story as the rest of the elite cuts
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Wow! only day 26 and that frosty, I have had strains, AK-47 only have as much frost as your glue has now at day 65.

I love pics of cured GG#4 buds they almost look completely white with some orange hairs

Just got this pic off the web of Gorilla Glue buds:

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shishkaboy

shishkaboy

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mdjenks said:
Thanks for the info man, I am always glad to get information. yeah the Joe B is right but to my understanding he only kept the 4 hence Chem Dog #4, I have never heard of a 1,2, or 3.

The smell is great, danky petrol smell and will stink up ur entire place if you have it out to long. I think I have the slightly more sativa leaning pheno or its just in my head. Very large yielder at that, i will run her again for sure.

Oh I forgot to mention she has a blueberry taste which is weird and totally unexpected but in a good way.
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The person I quoted claims to have gotten copies of those other phenos and kept them alive. There is way more bs surrounding this branch of the cannabis tree than is any other strain. People getting fake cuts, people having to promise to call it a different name in order to hide the original.

For the folks in "the know" where did the wonkanobe chem 91 cut come from?
I think I can speculate on it.

If you met a dude at a concert with the best bud in the world, then paid $500 for the ounce. What would you do with the phenos from that hunt? Lets say you found your keeper and 2 other females. If you listen to the AD show link I posted you will know that there was a friend that chemdog had call in. He makes it very clear that they were already growing, crossing and passing shit between them. This is the same dude that claims to have named the western mass super skunk.

I know I prolly would not just give up the keeper that easily, maybe the other 2 phenos. But only family and really close friends would get it. I also would make sure they understood to "never give this to anyone".

Why is your chem 4 smelling like blueberry? I have never heard of it being that sweet before.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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mdjenks said:
Thanks for the info man, I am always glad to get information. yeah the Joe B is right but to my understanding he only kept the 4 hence Chem Dog #4, I have never heard of a 1,2, or 3.

The smell is great, danky petrol smell and will stink up ur entire place if you have it out to long. I think I have the slightly more sativa leaning pheno or its just in my head. Very large yielder at that, i will run her again for sure.

Oh I forgot to mention she has a blueberry taste which is weird and totally unexpected but in a good way.
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Yea I think the other phenos of Chem that were popped the last are out there as I'm testing a Chem 3 x 88g13/hp from Bodhi now. I think a lot of people just don't have the other numbers 1, 2 and 3 cus 4 was the keeper that was closest to the original. This isn't the first Chem 3 cross I've seen and but its very slim I can count on one hand but that's why I asked for them cus I haven't seen the Chem 3 around like that. I've never grown Chem or any of the other phenos but smoked Chem and these testers have the Chem smell and two of them are spitting 3 and 4 blade leaves like I've seen on Chems growing.
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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shishkaboy said:
The person I quoted claims to have gotten copies of those other phenos and kept them alive. There is way more bs surrounding this branch of the cannabis tree than is any other strain. People getting fake cuts, people having to promise to call it a different name in order to hide the original.

For the folks in "the know" where did the wonkanobe chem 91 cut come from?
I think I can speculate on it.

If you met a dude at a concert with the best bud in the world, then paid $500 for the ounce. What would you do with the phenos from that hunt? Lets say you found your keeper and 2 other females. If you listen to the AD show link I posted you will know that there was a friend that chemdog had call in. He makes it very clear that they were already growing, crossing and passing shit between them. This is the same dude that claims to have named the western mass super skunk.

I know I prolly would not just give up the keeper that easily, maybe the other 2 phenos. But only family and really close friends would get it. I also would make sure they understood to "never give this to anyone".

Why is your chem 4 smelling like blueberry? I have never heard of it being that sweet before.
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True dat. My chem doesn't smell at all like blue it has a faint blue taste.
 
mdjenks

mdjenks

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akhiymjames said:
Yea I think the other phenos of Chem that were popped the last are out there as I'm testing a Chem 3 x 88g13/hp from Bodhi now. I think a lot of people just don't have the other numbers 1, 2 and 3 cus 4 was the keeper that was closest to the original. This isn't the first Chem 3 cross I've seen and but its very slim I can count on one hand but that's why I asked for them cus I haven't seen the Chem 3 around like that. I've never grown Chem or any of the other phenos but smoked Chem and these testers have the Chem smell and two of them are spitting 3 and 4 blade leaves like I've seen on Chems growing.
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Thanks for the info and correction man, I always thought he scrapped the 1,2, and 3 but obviously i was wrong and i will always admit when i am wrong because god knows I don't know everything!
 
shishkaboy

shishkaboy

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akhiymjames said:
Yea I think the other phenos of Chem that were popped the last are out there as I'm testing a Chem 3 x 88g13/hp from Bodhi now. I think a lot of people just don't have the other numbers 1, 2 and 3 cus 4 was the keeper that was closest to the original. This isn't the first Chem 3 cross I've seen and but its very slim I can count on one hand but that's why I asked for them cus I haven't seen the Chem 3 around like that. I've never grown Chem or any of the other phenos but smoked Chem and these testers have the Chem smell and two of them are spitting 3 and 4 blade leaves like I've seen on Chems growing.
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Bodhi was one of the people that got a fake cut at first I think.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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shishkaboy said:
Bodhi was one of the people that got a fake cut at first I think.
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I have no info on that so I have no idea if that is true or not but I wouldn't doubt it as I believe he may have two different Chem cuts too but don't quote me on that for sure. I just think I remember there being some releases with different cuts.
 
shishkaboy

shishkaboy

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
I never said they don't have the 91.
Who is this well respected member you're quoting saying chem d and 4 aren't real chems?
You've compared your bagseed to chem 91 more than a few times.
I've responded to only a couple of your posts. Exaggerate much?
You don't "got that sour". You have bagseed from dna's sour d cross.
Finally, i'm trying to help your ass out. I even offered you cuts in a pm if you ever made it this way, remember? So have a good one.
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Maybe I got lucky then.
Someone that was really trying to help would have responded to the PM I sent back to you, instead of the next time I mentioned my "Dour".

@akhiymjames I am pretty sure it was feminized, but I will ask again later, just to be sure.
 
COGrown

COGrown

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shishkaboy said:
Bodhi was one of the people that got a fake cut at first I think.
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Bodhi's first sk va cut was acquired through JB and was verified by chem at one point, but then when it turned out that JB's cut wasn't identical to the sk va, he later received the other sk va. According to chem, it is the same genetics as the other sk va cut, just one from the seed mom and one from a clone mom. They are similar, but the one from JB is a little more similar to the diesels and the other like the og's, with the original hybrids being better producers and the ones with the newer (to bodhi) sk va cut being better headstash.
 
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