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I have been doing a lot of digging on the chem 91 and sour diesel lineage.I totally understand that there is a lot of speculation about the lineages and that I was not there when it happened. i am just reporting my observations.
Lifted from the 91 chem thread on ic
"Hey Good Ole Dog...do you have any pics of the Chem Sister cut?
Also...do you think ChemDawg D is a Chem '91
hybrid vs. the other story out there?
On one more note...I remember you were looking for the Chem #4 cut awhile back...that cut, in my opinion, is just another Chem '91
hybrid and not what is was touted as."
Then ,
"I grew the ChemDawg #1, #2, #3, & #4...all of those cuts are clearly sisters. When I grew Chem D & Chem Sister...neither of those cuts match up with the 1-4...obviously not sister cuts.
In comparison the '91 ChemDawg in this thread looks & feels more like a mother cut to most or all of them...versus a sister. With this thread in mind...there are, at least, 3 or 4 other supposed '91 ChemDawg cuts in circulation...none of which match up at all with the 1-4 or the D.
I'm not the only one who feels or thinks this way. I've known all of this for at least 5 or 6 years but bit my lip because I have respect for certain members of the "Chemdog family". Even so, I think it's time we all knew the truth and why it was neccesary to extensively lie about all of this.
These are just my two bits...I'm sure there are others who can help fill in some blanks...Good Ol' Dog?
P.S.~ Just for the record...I 'think' Good Ole Dog is one of the good guys."
This brings me to the origins of sour diesel
From the chem dawg history thread
"Brief background: This thread was started by H&L and edited by JJ-NYC.
At a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheatre, 'joebrand' (aka 'wonkanobe') and 'pbud' met 'chemdog' and sold him an ounce of very high quality pot for $500. joe and chemdog exchanged numbers and they later arranged for two ounces to be shipped to chemdog on the east coast. According to chemdog, one ounce was seedless and the other had 13 seeds.
In ’91, chemdog popped the first 4 seeds. From these seeds, one male was found and disposed of (chemdog was young, you can’t blame him). The 3 females were labeled ‘chemdawg’ (now ’91 chemdawg), ‘chemdawg a’ (now chemdawg’s sister), and ‘chemdawg b’. In '01, chemdog and his girlfriend attempted to germ 3 more seeds, labeled ‘c’, ‘d’, and ‘e’. the ‘e’ seed never germinated, ‘c’ turned out to be junk (according to chemdog), and chemdawg ‘d’ was the keeper. In '06, 'chemdog' and 'joebrand' reunited and joe was given 4 of the last 6 beans: Chemdawg phenos 1-4, '4' being the chosen keeper. Joe thought the '4' was the best representation of the original and thus dubbed it the 'reunion pheno'.
In 1992, JJ became friends with the Weasel in central park. Sometime in 1992-93 the Weasel met Chemdog at a Phish show. They traded clones and he brought the Mass. Super Skunk and 91 Chemdog back with him to New York City and renamed the 91 Chem, "Diesel". Sour Diesel and Under Dawg came out of these clones."
I remember when "diesel" hit the NY smoker scene. It brought about a whole new flavor and smell that was so stank but alluring still.
I was looking through a photo album on ic today and found a very telling pic of the DNL. I believe Reserva Privada got it right. i have heard that they used somas g13 haze male and hit the 91 then backcrossed to the 91 to make the sour, but from the pics I have seen. I looks like 91 x dnl to me.
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