Medical Marijuana In Vancouver Should Be More Regulated: City
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doingdishes
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i hope she needs it one day...seems to me she is just a puppet with Harpers hand up her ass
cannadan
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you would have to figure he would definitely enjoy putting his hand up peoples asses...
you can see it in the eyes...
VIANARCHRIS
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Memo from mayor Robertson to Stephen Harper..."fuck you!"
SURREY, B.C. - Vancouver's mayor has snuffed out a suggestion made by federal Health Minister Rona Ambrose that the city shut medical-marijuana dispensaries, rather than regulate them.
"No," Gregor Robertson told reporters, when asked Friday if the city would comply.
The dispute between the city and federal minister over Vancouver's plans to regulate the booming medical pot-trade has heightened throughout the week, threatening to turn into a standoff, as Robertson and Ambrose appeared at separate events in Metro Vancouver.
It began Wednesday, when city staff announced they will present a report to council that recommends regulation of the flourishing medical pot industry, enforcing a $30,000 licensing fee and requiring the shops to be at least 300 metres from schools.
Ambrose responded on Thursday with a strongly worded letter to Robertson warning that "normalizing" marijuana will increase use and addiction, especially among youth.
She followed up on Friday, telling reporters at an event in Surrey, B.C., that the city must "re-think" its plans to discuss regulating medicinal pot shops at an upcoming council meeting.
"The issue for me is a public-health issue. First of all, marijuana dispensaries are illegal," she said. "Marijuana is not a medicine, it is not approved as a medicine by Health Canada, nor has it gone through any of the typical rigorous clinical trials that are necessary for medicine to be approved."
Ambrose wouldn't say what her government is prepared to do if Vancouver goes ahead with the new regulations.
"I would leave that to the police," she said. "But I would also say to you that this resolution hasn't passed council yet. They're thinking about it, they have a problem on their hands. A lot of people want to make a lot of money."
In March 2014, Vancouver police Chief Jim Chu said his department didn't consider the enforcement of medical marijuana dispensaries a priority. He said police were intent on capturing violent drug traffickers who posed a danger to the community, and the dispensaries didn't fit that priority.
Robertson responded to Ambrose Friday afternoon, telling reporters the courts have ruled on the issue, and all the city can do is regulate the businesses like others because it can't let them operate in a vacuum.
That wouldn't be fair to other businesses and it wouldn't be appropriate for kids to have easy access to marijuana, said Robertson.
"We want to be sure there are some good solid guidelines here," he said. "Ultimately, the federal government is going to need to decide what courses of action they’re going to take with medical marijuana and marijuana in general."
Coun. Kerry Jang has said the federal government's restrictive medical marijuana laws forced the city to step in and that the new rules are specifically designed to prevent exposure to kids.
Marijuana dispensaries have popped up in larger cities across Canada, but nowhere has the growth been as accelerated than in Vancouver.
The number of dispensaries in the city has multiplied from six to 80 in just two years.
Vancouver's city council is expected to consider the staff report on medical marijuana during a meeting Tuesday
SURREY, B.C. - Vancouver's mayor has snuffed out a suggestion made by federal Health Minister Rona Ambrose that the city shut medical-marijuana dispensaries, rather than regulate them.
"No," Gregor Robertson told reporters, when asked Friday if the city would comply.
The dispute between the city and federal minister over Vancouver's plans to regulate the booming medical pot-trade has heightened throughout the week, threatening to turn into a standoff, as Robertson and Ambrose appeared at separate events in Metro Vancouver.
It began Wednesday, when city staff announced they will present a report to council that recommends regulation of the flourishing medical pot industry, enforcing a $30,000 licensing fee and requiring the shops to be at least 300 metres from schools.
Ambrose responded on Thursday with a strongly worded letter to Robertson warning that "normalizing" marijuana will increase use and addiction, especially among youth.
She followed up on Friday, telling reporters at an event in Surrey, B.C., that the city must "re-think" its plans to discuss regulating medicinal pot shops at an upcoming council meeting.
"The issue for me is a public-health issue. First of all, marijuana dispensaries are illegal," she said. "Marijuana is not a medicine, it is not approved as a medicine by Health Canada, nor has it gone through any of the typical rigorous clinical trials that are necessary for medicine to be approved."
Ambrose wouldn't say what her government is prepared to do if Vancouver goes ahead with the new regulations.
"I would leave that to the police," she said. "But I would also say to you that this resolution hasn't passed council yet. They're thinking about it, they have a problem on their hands. A lot of people want to make a lot of money."
In March 2014, Vancouver police Chief Jim Chu said his department didn't consider the enforcement of medical marijuana dispensaries a priority. He said police were intent on capturing violent drug traffickers who posed a danger to the community, and the dispensaries didn't fit that priority.
Robertson responded to Ambrose Friday afternoon, telling reporters the courts have ruled on the issue, and all the city can do is regulate the businesses like others because it can't let them operate in a vacuum.
That wouldn't be fair to other businesses and it wouldn't be appropriate for kids to have easy access to marijuana, said Robertson.
"We want to be sure there are some good solid guidelines here," he said. "Ultimately, the federal government is going to need to decide what courses of action they’re going to take with medical marijuana and marijuana in general."
Coun. Kerry Jang has said the federal government's restrictive medical marijuana laws forced the city to step in and that the new rules are specifically designed to prevent exposure to kids.
Marijuana dispensaries have popped up in larger cities across Canada, but nowhere has the growth been as accelerated than in Vancouver.
The number of dispensaries in the city has multiplied from six to 80 in just two years.
Vancouver's city council is expected to consider the staff report on medical marijuana during a meeting Tuesday
VIANARCHRIS
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Canada's Health Minister says dispensaries normalize marijuana use
The City of Vancouver's plan to regulate marijuana dispensaries across the city has drawn criticism from Federal Health Minister Rona Ambrose.
On Friday, Ambrose was interviewed by On the Coast host Stephen Quinn.
Note: This interview has been condensed for online.
Does marijuana not have value as a medicine?
It's important that people know that marijuana is not a medicine. It has not been approved by Health Canada as a medicine.
Why create a regime to produce it and distribute it and allow people to use it for medicinal purposes?
The courts ruled about 10 years ago that said certain Canadians should have access to dry marijuana if they believed this was something that helped them...there is a regime in place that is administered by Health Canada only because it affects our legislation that is very highly regulated. It is a regime that is very robust that is overseen by the medical community and it will provide dry marijuana to people who believe they need it and that's in consultation with the physician.
If it were not for those court decisions then, the Federal Government would not allow people who want to use marijuana for medicinal use, you would not allow that period?
No, Health Canada would definitely not in any way have anything to do with this. What the research and science shows conclusively is that marijuana is bad for kids, especially harmful to the developing brain.
For the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of users of marijuana in Canada who say that they use it for medicinal purposes, that it provides relief not found with other drugs, are they making that up?
It's not for me to say. I'm not a researcher. I'm not a scientist. My real focus is kids. One of the reasons I have appealed to the Mayor of Vancouver to shut down these storefronts is that I think it sends a bad message to our youth...by having marijuana being sold in storefronts is a terrible signal to young people.
The groups that support legalization or decriminalization all say it's time to control marijuana, to regulate it, to tax it, to legalize it in one way or another. Why not heed the advice of all of these organizations?
Our government stance is clear, we do not support legalization. I would not support a Justin Trudeau Canada, where what's happening in downtown Vancouver [is repeated elsewhere] where pot dispensaries are opening up on corners. They are not regulated. Pot is illegal right now, unless you are through the medical marijuana program of Health Canada.
How much money is spent on enforcement of marijuana laws across the country every year?
I can't tell you that. I don't know. All I know is that marijuana is very, very harmful to youth...and that's why we have spent money on an ad campaign and we will continue to do that. I mean, Colorado just spent $17 million on a public health campaign targeting youth about the dangers of marijuana. I think legalization is the wrong way to go. I think it will increase access for young people. It normalizes it and I just don't think it is worth it.
If you are worried about young people using drugs, why is the majority of the money that is dedicated to your National Enforcement Anti-Drug Strategy spent on enforcement then rather than prevention and treatment?
That is not true. In fact a lot of the funds that we invest are focused, especially in the aboriginal youth community, on prescription drug abuse in particular on prevention and treatment...and we just finished launching a $7 million public health awareness campaign around prescription drug use and marijuana use by young people...we just received a report that the numbers are going down in terms of use of marijuana among young people.
There's a poll from 2014 that says 37 per cent of Canadians would like to see marijuana legalized, 33 per cent would like to see it decriminalized. Does that put you out of step with what the majority of Canadians think?
I'm not worried about polls. I'm worried about the fact that a lot of our facilities that deal with mental health and addiction have young people with serious mental health issues from smoking marijuana. I do not support this idea of mass commercialisation in cities, which is what I assumed the resolution that the mayor and council of Vancouver wants to look at and its exactly what Justin Trudeau wants to do in terms of legalizing marijuana across the country.
To listen to the full interview with Rona Ambrose, listen to the audio labelled Ambrose Q & A
Map of Vancouver's pot shops
Note: CBC created this map after pulling together a list of marijuana-related businesses from various sources, including Leafly and the businesses' own websites. The City of Vancouver declined to provide CBC with the full list.
The City of Vancouver's plan to regulate marijuana dispensaries across the city has drawn criticism from Federal Health Minister Rona Ambrose.
On Friday, Ambrose was interviewed by On the Coast host Stephen Quinn.
Note: This interview has been condensed for online.
Does marijuana not have value as a medicine?
It's important that people know that marijuana is not a medicine. It has not been approved by Health Canada as a medicine.
Why create a regime to produce it and distribute it and allow people to use it for medicinal purposes?
The courts ruled about 10 years ago that said certain Canadians should have access to dry marijuana if they believed this was something that helped them...there is a regime in place that is administered by Health Canada only because it affects our legislation that is very highly regulated. It is a regime that is very robust that is overseen by the medical community and it will provide dry marijuana to people who believe they need it and that's in consultation with the physician.
If it were not for those court decisions then, the Federal Government would not allow people who want to use marijuana for medicinal use, you would not allow that period?
No, Health Canada would definitely not in any way have anything to do with this. What the research and science shows conclusively is that marijuana is bad for kids, especially harmful to the developing brain.
For the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of users of marijuana in Canada who say that they use it for medicinal purposes, that it provides relief not found with other drugs, are they making that up?
It's not for me to say. I'm not a researcher. I'm not a scientist. My real focus is kids. One of the reasons I have appealed to the Mayor of Vancouver to shut down these storefronts is that I think it sends a bad message to our youth...by having marijuana being sold in storefronts is a terrible signal to young people.
The groups that support legalization or decriminalization all say it's time to control marijuana, to regulate it, to tax it, to legalize it in one way or another. Why not heed the advice of all of these organizations?
Our government stance is clear, we do not support legalization. I would not support a Justin Trudeau Canada, where what's happening in downtown Vancouver [is repeated elsewhere] where pot dispensaries are opening up on corners. They are not regulated. Pot is illegal right now, unless you are through the medical marijuana program of Health Canada.
How much money is spent on enforcement of marijuana laws across the country every year?
I can't tell you that. I don't know. All I know is that marijuana is very, very harmful to youth...and that's why we have spent money on an ad campaign and we will continue to do that. I mean, Colorado just spent $17 million on a public health campaign targeting youth about the dangers of marijuana. I think legalization is the wrong way to go. I think it will increase access for young people. It normalizes it and I just don't think it is worth it.
If you are worried about young people using drugs, why is the majority of the money that is dedicated to your National Enforcement Anti-Drug Strategy spent on enforcement then rather than prevention and treatment?
That is not true. In fact a lot of the funds that we invest are focused, especially in the aboriginal youth community, on prescription drug abuse in particular on prevention and treatment...and we just finished launching a $7 million public health awareness campaign around prescription drug use and marijuana use by young people...we just received a report that the numbers are going down in terms of use of marijuana among young people.
There's a poll from 2014 that says 37 per cent of Canadians would like to see marijuana legalized, 33 per cent would like to see it decriminalized. Does that put you out of step with what the majority of Canadians think?
I'm not worried about polls. I'm worried about the fact that a lot of our facilities that deal with mental health and addiction have young people with serious mental health issues from smoking marijuana. I do not support this idea of mass commercialisation in cities, which is what I assumed the resolution that the mayor and council of Vancouver wants to look at and its exactly what Justin Trudeau wants to do in terms of legalizing marijuana across the country.
To listen to the full interview with Rona Ambrose, listen to the audio labelled Ambrose Q & A
Map of Vancouver's pot shops
Note: CBC created this map after pulling together a list of marijuana-related businesses from various sources, including Leafly and the businesses' own websites. The City of Vancouver declined to provide CBC with the full list.
c ray
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is also funny looking at her Wikipedia page
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rona_Ambrose
so typical she has been shifted all over the government, wherever they need a "communication specialist".. ie a propaganda specialist, not really someone who knows anything about anything..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rona_Ambrose
so typical she has been shifted all over the government, wherever they need a "communication specialist".. ie a propaganda specialist, not really someone who knows anything about anything..
VIANARCHRIS
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Not unlike any of the other Harper puppets. They are a bunch of clowns and Canada has become their circus.
doingdishes
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"I'm not worried about polls"...that says a lot right there..this is a democracy & she will not listen to the people!
torontoke
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Good on the mayor for following his dreams of the money train.
Id like to think he is doing it to help sick people but i think we all know otherwise.
None the less this ambrose bitch needs to take a trip to fuckoffityland if she isnt going to live in reality.
A politician not interested in the polls only interested in making life hard for sick people in need. Standing behind the bullshit story about the kids.
99% of those dispensaries wouldnt sell to adults without the proper documentation so why would they sell to kids.
So dumb
Id like to think he is doing it to help sick people but i think we all know otherwise.
None the less this ambrose bitch needs to take a trip to fuckoffityland if she isnt going to live in reality.
A politician not interested in the polls only interested in making life hard for sick people in need. Standing behind the bullshit story about the kids.
99% of those dispensaries wouldnt sell to adults without the proper documentation so why would they sell to kids.
So dumb
kDude
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my conspiracist mind can't help but see they're making this Rona/feds Vs Vancouver, because they know this will get more to support Vancouver's stance.
..you know; the one with the stupidly priced fees and unfair licencing costs.
only thing to do to make that look good, is the feds coming in with threats of making things worse.. they know that. (was either that, or a backroom meeting assuring Vancouver that the feds are moving to capitalize and control marijuana soon themselves and Vancouver doesn't have to)
best thing is fool the idiots into not only thinking your plan was good, but also into fighting for your plan.. they know the game, been playing for years.
damned if you do, damned if you don't.
..you know; the one with the stupidly priced fees and unfair licencing costs.
only thing to do to make that look good, is the feds coming in with threats of making things worse.. they know that. (was either that, or a backroom meeting assuring Vancouver that the feds are moving to capitalize and control marijuana soon themselves and Vancouver doesn't have to)
best thing is fool the idiots into not only thinking your plan was good, but also into fighting for your plan.. they know the game, been playing for years.
damned if you do, damned if you don't.
TheDizzyBizzy
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One after another, year after year? How many closures and specifically forfeitures have their been on dispensaries in Vancouver.... ever? Like 3 in the past 20 years?not to mention the money made(forfeiture) from taking down operations one after another, year after year after year....
I wonder how long this shit is going to go on..... It's endless
TheDizzyBizzy
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No tinfoil needed. This is without a doubt what they are doing. This is Vancouver daring Ottawa to come after the city. And The Feds wont do it because they'll lose too much political capital. And so Vancouver gets to extort dispensaries for $30,000 a year while playing he 'good guy'.
It's smart. Slimy, but smart.
lol im not sure the high price is a bad thing, it will curb any more illegal dispensary.
mmar and mmpr are what are suppose to be legal.
dispensaries are just criminals doing it the smart way and they charge just as much or more minus any testing of the lp.
just legalize it so I can do my own thing
mmar and mmpr are what are suppose to be legal.
dispensaries are just criminals doing it the smart way and they charge just as much or more minus any testing of the lp.
just legalize it so I can do my own thing
kDude
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i think most would say that's what the LP's are too
i dunno. i guess the criminality lies in your actions, motivation, and character more than anything.
totally agree with the last sentence though.. but i'm starting to fear we'll never see true legalization at this point. everyone wants to cash in and exploit it. notice how tight even the "legal" US sates rules are for cultivation?
6 plants? legal? i guess i misunderstand the term