I'm voting for McCain....

Seamaiden

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Not a jew ,, Roman Catholic. Italian and Irish and a little American Indian
Med probably won't accept that any more than he'll accept that you're not rich, yet own two Corvettes. I recently learned that, apparently, I am a Jew, too. I wouldn't have known had it not been for med.

So, you are what is commonly called a Catholic Jew. I'll add you to my list I'm making up for him. :D
 

NewGrowth

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So true, SO, so true. Many Americans are really buying into this Culture of Fear(mongering), the War on Terror, and as such, figure that since they're not part of the targeted minority and they're (supposedly) doing nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear.

However, as a woman who is mistaken for Muslim, and who can very easily blend in (all I have to do is dress a certain way, and I become Middle Eastern Muslim), I feel that pinch VERY sharply.
In the holocaust museum there is a quote from a priest it reads something like this: "They came for the jews and I did not fight because I was not jew, then the came for the gypsies, then they came for the non-aryans and I did not fight, then they came for me and there was no one left to fight". This is where we are heading apathy and blind idealism are the enemies of truth and freedom.:peace:
 

Seamaiden

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In the holocaust museum there is a quote from a priest it reads something like this: "They came for the jews and I did not fight because I was not jew, then the came for the gypsies, then they came for the non-aryans and I did not fight, then they came for me and there was no one left to fight". This is where we are heading apathy and blind idealism are the enemies of truth and freedom.:peace:
Heartbreaking words, aren't they? :cry:
 

medicineman

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I retract That statemant .. I just called my older brother who said the 427 that is in the 77 was installed right after the car was bought... was installed by chevy There for I was mistaken... and I was WRONG....
And even if you say that, it makes no sense that chevy would install a 427 when they discontinued them for autos in 1970, the year the 454 came out. In my humble estimation, Chevrolet would not install a bigblock of anykind in the 77 as the suspension was not set up for it and could cause the car to be very unstable, the drivetrain would also have to be up graded as going from 220ft lbs of torque to around 450ft lbs of torque would certainly overload the suspension and drivetrain. The only people that would attempt to install a bigblock into that car would be the aftermarket and that certainly would void the warranty and also fuck your buildsheet to tears. I do know my Chevrolets. Why don't you just admit that the car has a 350 in it and be done with it. I just couldn't let your original 77-427 stand. t wouldn't have been true to the chevy Gods.
 

cooker06

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In the holocaust museum there is a quote from a priest it reads something like this: "They came for the jews and I did not fight because I was not jew, then the came for the gypsies, then they came for the non-aryans and I did not fight, then they came for me and there was no one left to fight". This is where we are heading apathy and blind idealism are the enemies of truth and freedom.:peace:


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awesome!!!! new growth... the smartest thing i have read on here yet....
 

jahman2222

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Dude im not a big fan of Obama Either and i don't think his family is full of terrorists. If his campaign money was funded by terrorism Im pretty sure it would be all over the news
Thats just it, there waiting till october to realise every thing
 

NewGrowth

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I voted for Bush the second time 'round and am proud of that vote........hear about Iraq lately?
I don't need to HEAR about Iraq. I have SEEN the results of that ridiculous war. I am 25 years old and I have seen guys that are 19 and 20 missing legs and arms. I have seen guys at Walter Reid with massive burns on their faces and bodies. This is not a triumph over evil it is the result of greed and like I said before blind idealism. Who are we fighting? We are fighting an idea, you can't do that it just does not work that war never ends. How many more kids do I need to see die or return disfigured? I dare you to walk into Walter Reid army hospital, see those kids and tell me that this war is justified. George Bush has been the single worst president for american civil liberties I have ever seen. George Bush is not a bad man he is just an idealist who can't see past his own bullshit to the other side. Guess what is on the other side, American soldiers with families, kids, mothers, fathers, and whole lives ahead of them. You should be ashamed of yourself:cry:
 

ccodiane

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I don't need to HEAR about Iraq. I have SEEN the results of that ridiculous war. I am 25 years old and I have seen guys that are 19 and 20 missing legs and arms. I have seen guys at Walter Reid with massive burns on their faces and bodies. This is not a triumph over evil it is the result of greed and like I said before blind idealism. Who are we fighting? We are fighting an idea, you can't do that it just does not work that war never ends. How many more kids do I need to see die or return disfigured? I dare you to walk into Walter Reid army hospital, see those kids and tell me that this war is justified. George Bush has been the single worst president for american civil liberties I have ever seen. George Bush is not a bad man he is just an idealist who can't see past his own bullshit to the other side. Guess what is on the other side, American soldiers with families, kids, mothers, fathers, and whole lives ahead of them. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES........:cry:
Shut up you idiot. :mrgreen: What you didn't see, weren't allowed to see, were Husseins torture chambers. What you choose to fail to remember is his, Husseins, gassing of the kurds, and the Iranians. What you fail to realize is that YOU are the pawn, of the left. How many Americans died in car wrecks last year, in America? How many were maimed and disfigured in rapes and assaults, in America? How many were struck by lightning, in America? The real problem is you don't really care, because, it doesn't fit "your" agenda. You ARE ashamed of yourself, and "your" country.

We are fighting an idea, you can't do that it just does not work that war never ends.

Then it will never end......unless you stop people like you from thinking.
 
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ccodiane

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George Bush has been the single worst president for american civil liberties I have ever seen.

I am 25 years old

Sorry, I know it's your turn, but I just can't help myself, blind idealism and all.....like you said before.
 

Seamaiden

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I don't need to HEAR about Iraq. I have SEEN the results of that ridiculous war. I am 25 years old and I have seen guys that are 19 and 20 missing legs and arms. I have seen guys at Walter Reid with massive burns on their faces and bodies. This is not a triumph over evil it is the result of greed and like I said before blind idealism. Who are we fighting? We are fighting an idea, you can't do that it just does not work that war never ends. How many more kids do I need to see die or return disfigured? I dare you to walk into Walter Reid army hospital, see those kids and tell me that this war is justified. George Bush has been the single worst president for american civil liberties I have ever seen. George Bush is not a bad man he is just an idealist who can't see past his own bullshit to the other side. Guess what is on the other side, American soldiers with families, kids, mothers, fathers, and whole lives ahead of them. You should be ashamed of yourself:cry:
And Obama will simply shift the troops out of Iraq and into Afghanistan so that they're ready to go when the move is made on Iran.

I just met one of my younger son's friends, a young man who spent 14 months over there. How'd he get home? IED, of course. He was lucky, he's got all his parts. His mind... PTSD ain't pretty. I have to respect this young man, he was willing to talk a little bit about it, but I didn't want to push, not seeing the look in his eyes.
 

NewGrowth

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Shut up you idiot. :mrgreen: What you didn't see, weren't allowed to see, were Husseins torture chambers. What you choose to fail to remember is his, Husseins, gassing of the kurds, and the Iranians. What you fail to realize is that YOU are the pawn, of the left. How many Americans died in car wrecks last year, in America? How many were maimed and disfigured in rapes and assaults, in America? How many were struck by lightning, in America? The real problem is you don't really care, because, it doesn't fit "your" agenda. You ARE ashamed of yourself, and "your" country.

We are fighting an idea, you can't do that it just does not work that war never ends.

Then it will never end......unless you stop people like you from thinking.
I like how you quote and edit my post. I think your problem is the fact that I have NO agenda. You seem to lump me into a group that I may or may not belong. I am not ashamed of my country at all and I do not deny any of the injustices in the world today. What exactly is my "leftist" agenda? And since when do we want to stop people with divergent viewpoints from thinking? I voted for George Bush the first time he ran but not the second. It seems like the only way you defend your viewpoints is with negativity and insults. I don't think you are an idiot so why would you call me one? What the hell do car wrecks have to do with anything we have talked about? And why are putting quotes around "your"? Hell China is still harvesting the organs from live unwilling donors but we don't invade their country. Injustice will not end with further acts of injustice.
 
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tipsgnob

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And Obama will simply shift the troops out of Iraq and into Afghanistan so that they're ready to go when the move is made on Iran.

I just met one of my younger son's friends, a young man who spent 14 months over there. How'd he get home? IED, of course. He was lucky, he's got all his parts. His mind... PTSD ain't pretty. I have to respect this young man, he was willing to talk a little bit about it, but I didn't want to push, not seeing the look in his eyes.

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yourname

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everyone dis-agrees with politics and president's but it's our soldiers who are fighting for our country losing lives and coming back to usa scarred for life.I say a prayer everyday, i have the utmost respect for all our troops!!!!
 
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