giving defoliation during flower a try

AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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IgrowUgrow said:
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BTW I have a IP blocker on my computer that changes my IP every fraction of a second so good luck tracing that. Also I have never been in trouble so if I get caught I will be out the next day, yea it will suck but life goes on.
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A federal law was just passed to make it federally legal in medical and rec states, thank god. (The law passed a couple weeks ago, but I hear what you're saying)
 
AlphaPhase

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skunkd0c said:
many people seem to fuss over PH more than is necessary IMO
some growers will be checking ph daily and adding ph down or up
if it goes 0.1 either side they start to worry

this is what is printed on the back of a bottle of canna aqua vega

Due to the special composition of this nutrient it is not necessary to adjust the pH levels after setting it initially
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peace
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Right on, I set my ph to 5.6 and let it rise to 6.0 and then reset it back to 5.6. This is a ph drift that takes about 5 days or so.
 
AlphaPhase

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I thought red stems related to p deficiency or mag deficiency was common knowledge. Anyways, here is what a p deficient plant looks like (up close pics of the plant I posted a few pages back)

If it's p Def add more bloom nutes, if it's mag deficiency add Epsom. It'll to away.
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AlphaPhase

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Oh, duh, I didn't finish the sentence. It was supposed to say even N tox. (but I trailed off because I couldn't remember if it was tox or def.
 
Sativied

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AlphaPhase said:
Or is it N tox that causes the purple stem?
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Possibly but probably not by the tox itself but the imbalance. Looking at older pics, when I was using too much N the entire run, too dark leaves are usually on super healthy light green stems, opposed to deficient leaves on purple stems. Red/purple stems from N def is also common in other species. Just a quick example, peach:

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By itself red/purple stems including the candy stripes* means very very little especially if the rest of the plant looks healthy, and treating it as a deficiency can easily make things worse.

*Something a hydro grower in another forum using 4-5x the ppm level I use in hydro actually likes... as in overfeeding it in total can indirectly have the same outcome.

So can root problems. Same thing with many deficiency symptoms, they are often not caused by a deficiency in the medium and not solved by adding more nutes (but less, and better balance).
 
skunkd0c

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Sativied said:
Possibly but probably not by the tox itself but the imbalance. Looking at older pics, when I was using too much N the entire run, too dark leaves are usually on super healthy light green stems, opposed to deficient leaves on purple stems. Red/purple stems from N def is also common in other species. Just a quick example, peach:

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By itself red/purple stems including the candy stripes* means very very little especially if the rest of the plant looks healthy, and treating it as a deficiency can easily make things worse.

*Something a hydro grower in another forum using 4-5x the ppm level I use in hydro actually likes... as in overfeeding it in total can indirectly have the same outcome.

So can root problems. Same thing with many deficiency symptoms, they are often not caused by a deficiency in the medium and not solved by adding more nutes (but less, and better balance).
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some seem to give more red stems than others in the same res/system
i remember the flav from tga was the only plant on this run that did it
it remained healthy through out
would of been on an Ec of 1.8-2.0 at this stage








peace
 
AlphaPhase

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Right on sativied - I find that most of the time as well (a def. caused indirectly by a tox of another element, or ph problems). Currently I have 7 different mother plants all in the same flood table, some seedlings, some medium size and some bigger, sativas and indicas. So I have to keep the ppm under 400 for now to keep them all mostly healthy and growing, but at the same time the bigger ones are P deficient. I'm finding that a P def in veg isn't a major concern as they still grow up healthy and vigorous
 
AlphaPhase

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skunkd0c said:
some seem to give more red stems than others in the same res/system
i remember the flav from tga was the only plant on this run that did it
it remained healthy through out
would of been on an Ec of 1.8-2.0 at this stage








peace
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Nice buds skund0c. Damn 2.0ec? I barely got over 1.3ec at peak flower this grow. What nutes do ya use? It's crazy the difference EC ranges people use with different nutrient brands.
 
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