mag def?

Sire Killem All

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so lets see, RH% well below 25%, top AND new growth in Middle of plant showing same signs, tho the leaves above it<old leaf> is not showing any problems so doubt i was able to fry a leaf under a leaf.
 

pk_boosted2

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2x 400w HPS
promix bx
general organics nutes, with N.o.t.G. bloom khaos
ph 6.0-6.2 R/O
replaced Cal/Mag with demeter's destiny

problem started on last week of so, ran 1 tsp of epsom salt with 1 tsp of demeter's destiny today. should i be looking at something other then mag, wanted to keep demeter's destiny so i can continue use of Bloom Khaos.
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Hey first off if u are using organic nutrients like GH General Organics line u shouldnt be Ph'ing the nutrients period, u dont need to. Growing organics your microbes and bacteria is what controls your rhizospheres root zone ph by eating and producing waste first off.

Second those plants are def having a moisture stress issue. The salts in the medium are higher than whats in your plant causing them to burn.

Why are using other products besides the ones that come with the GO line up? Using such products can lead to problems such as this because of the different ratios and processess which they are chelated and broken down in your root zone.

What ml of bio thrive where u running? How many ml cal/mag?
 

Sire Killem All

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Hey first off if u are using organic nutrients like GH General Organics line u shouldnt be Ph'ing the nutrients period, u dont need to. Growing organics your microbes and bacteria is what controls your rhizospheres root zone ph by eating and producing waste first off.
i always wondered about whether it would work like it is supposed to when u are using not full strength/ out of their prescribed levels and the idea it is soilless mix. I have had success with it before so i kept doing it. I kno the idea even if it works could still be wrong
Second those plants are def having a moisture stress issue. The salts in the medium are higher than whats in your plant causing them to burn.

Why are using other products besides the ones that come with the GO line up? Using such products can lead to problems such as this because of the different ratios and processess which they are chelated and broken down in your root zone.

What ml of bio thrive where u running? How many ml cal/mag?
i went from Cal/Mag to Demters Destiney, because i wanted to try out Nectar of the gods Bloom Khaos, Cal/Mag doesn't support the type of Calcium that is need by Bloom Khaos. Cal/Mag (Calcium Nitrate), needed by Khaos (Calcium Phosphate), so i switched it out.

Normally is 10ml of biothrive, 10ml Cal/Mag ( but for the last month and a half or so been using the Demeters Destiney @ 1Tsp/gal
 

pk_boosted2

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so lets see, RH% well below 25%, top AND new growth in Middle of plant showing same signs, tho the leaves above it<old leaf> is not showing any problems so doubt i was able to fry a leaf under a leaf.
What week of veg are you in right now? Are u feeding with nutrients every time u water your plants? If u let medium dry out too much doing organics ur gonna hurt ur plants they need to stay moist but not wet. The bacteria needs to stay moist to thrive and populate letting them dry out too much will kill off some of the benes and microbes as well.

If you are in veg 25% humidity is way too low. U wanna be at 50-60% humidity in veg.

Also focus on how ur new growth looks not old stuff, even if everything ur doing has been fixed and solved the old stuff kay never recover.
 

Sire Killem All

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they are monster crop clones. on the 9th of November into one gallon pots transplanted into 5 gallon pots three weeks later, so about week 9.
Feed, water,feed.... last watering was 1 tsp epsom salt, 1 tsp of demeters desiney per gallon. Got my humidity up to 55 was about to do a flush 1:1 with ph 6.0 R/O water then 15-30 minutes later come back with a liter per pot with 25% strength nutes, and Jus use the calmag. Shitty timing was going to flip them. Killed the worst of them as room is gonna be smaller now and not got the time to wait on all them to heal. On a upside I got to see the roots on the killed ones.
 

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pk_boosted2

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they are monster crop clones. on the 9th of November into one gallon pots transplanted into 5 gallon pots three weeks later, so about week 9.
Feed, water,feed.... last watering was 1 tsp epsom salt, 1 tsp of demeters desiney per gallon. Got my humidity up to 55 was about to do a flush 1:1 with ph 6.0 R/O water then 15-30 minutes later come back with a liter per pot with 25% strength nutes, and Jus use the calmag. Shitty timing was going to flip them. Killed the worst of them as room is gonna be smaller now and not got the time to wait on all them to heal. On a upside I got to see the roots on the killed ones.
Yeah those roots look great, nice white and packed. I almost think u could bump up to a bigger container if im running 5 gallon containers maximum time im vegging is 5 weeks. If any more than 6 weeks+ im using 10 gallon containers. I use the gallon per week rule on average as my guideline.

Any who, like I mentioned before using synthetic ph up or down kills bene's and microbes. When you sre running organics u dont need to PH anything so I would stop doing that all together. Youre feeding the benes and microbes that in turn eat and produce waste and control the PH in that manner for u and isnt something u need to do and is the beauty of organic gardening.

Roots look great to me.
 
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