racerboy71
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yeah, i could easily bump it up to 6 or down to 4 to make even numbered pots.. thanks woody..
organics, where to start?
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woody333333
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I don't waste floor space........ round pots are the devil....
skunkd0c
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its ok for him to ask questions, but its not ok for me to ask him questions ?
he was not only asking questions he was expressing his preconceived ideas, even if it was incoherent
is this a question or a conclusion/statement ?
water only, or will he use teas and dressings, maybe i could ask a ?
but should i care, should anyone care, perhaps this question is too personal ?
he has been reading a bit
he has been reading for what seems like ages now
agrees ^^
the onus is on the OP to express themselves coherently
abe supercro
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hey rb, maybe dedicate a small budget to acquire some amendments to mix and allow to cook for a future run. ive found it ez to line up the rectangular bins in rows and go to town w the ingredients.
you're aware of Rrogs infamous living-soil-thread, a lot of good organics ppl check in there. you'll find everything and more right there hidden in the mi forum. https://www.rollitup.org/t/so-who-here-is-growing-in-true-organic-living-soil.583341/page-121
noticed, some organics folks opt for marine life vs animal blood and bone meal (cows and bats
). so check out fish meal and fish bone meal, but it's all better than the synthetic route imo.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
lol, yeah, i've been using square pots for awhile now just for that reason.. round pots drive me nuts.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
yeah, i've been following that thread for awhile now abe.., you know i always poke my head into the michigan section on here.
hey rb, maybe dedicate a small budget to acquire some amendments to mix and allow to cook for a future run. ive found it ez to line up the rectangular bins in rows and go to town w the ingredients.
you're aware of Rrogs infamous living-soil-thread, a lot of good organics ppl check in there. you'll find everything, and more, right there hidden in the mi forum. https://www.rollitup.org/t/so-who-here-is-growing-in-true-organic-living-soil.583341/page-121
noticed, some organics folks opt for marine life vs animal blood and bone meal (cows and bats
and yes, i've also noticed a lot of organic growers frown upon blood and bone meal that doesn't come from fish, although i have to admit i used some plant tone blood and bone meal in that bubba i was talking about earlier, but shh, don't tell anyone, lol..
natro.hydro
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It really depends on who you talj to, you go to heavyon the fish and seaweed based ferts you can end up with just as many heavy metals as if you grew synthetic. Just something to keep in mind, when I have my setup running organic I try to linit my source of fish stuff.yeah, i've been following that thread for awhile now abe.., you know i always poke my head into the michigan section on here.
and yes, i've also noticed a lot of organic growers frown upon blood and bone meal that doesn't come from fish, although i have to admit i used some plant tone blood and bone meal in that bubba i was talking about earlier, but shh, don't tell anyone, lol..
Although some people dont use guanos because it is hard to source it without harming the bats environment a little.
So it all hust depends on what level of tree higger you want to be lol, probably always be someone who thinks their way is cleaner/better like kushman and his veganics (just an example of extremism in organics)
racerboy71
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lol, yeah, i've already noticed that about the organics crowd.. i personally don't really have an issue using blood or bone meal that came from a cow as i love me some beef to begin with.. same with guano, except i've heard that some guano can carry diseases, which is probably enough to put me off on using it..
what's the deal with heavy metals from fish products? you talking about mercury that is commonly found in most ocean going fish, or something else?
thanks for all the info natro, much appreciated..
Sativied
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..."until you suggested grasscity
" Have you see this one yet: http://rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-135#post-11192909 read the first paragraph...
As our PM replied to the press a couple of times, "there are several incorrect assumptions in your question that make it difficult to answer so let me address those first". Always liked that one.
natro.hydro
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Yeah mostly just mercury in fish.
Like I know I will never use any fish guts from local lakes because you are not supposed to eat them its that bad in some of the lakes in my area... its really all about where you source it in the end.
Like I know I will never use any fish guts from local lakes because you are not supposed to eat them its that bad in some of the lakes in my area... its really all about where you source it in the end.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
lol, i wasn't going to touch that part, but i've always like him no matter....."until you suggested grasscity
Have you see this one yet: http://rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-135#post-11192909 read the first paragraph...
As our PM replied to the press a couple of times, "there are several incorrect assumptions in your question that make it difficult to answer so let me address those first". Always liked that one.
fwiw, i signed up to asscity before i signed up here, haven't been back since..
a senile fungus
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I'm on my first run with organics and so far its going well.
I used cootz mix more or less, and sourced ingredients locally if I could.
I mixed up a base mix, and separated out like 15gallons of it, then mixed all amendments into the base to make a food mix. The amended mix sat on a tarp in my basement for weeks while it composted and became ready, and has been moved to stackable bins in the corner.
I transplanted clones directly into the base mix in small containers, and when they were ready I transplanted into 5gal smart pots filled with the homogenous 'food' mix.
They only gotten RO water. I had a bit of a cal spotting/and mag chlorosis but adding calmag to my water has fixed it.
So far I'm very happy. I'm more interested in topdressing amendments than I am in making and dealing with teas and such... So far I haven't had to do anything but I did throw a bit of kelp meal at one or two plants.
So, I'm basically water only as of now... Time will tell if my soil will feed the plants thru flower.
Let me know if I can help you in any way!
Good luck RB!
I used cootz mix more or less, and sourced ingredients locally if I could.
I mixed up a base mix, and separated out like 15gallons of it, then mixed all amendments into the base to make a food mix. The amended mix sat on a tarp in my basement for weeks while it composted and became ready, and has been moved to stackable bins in the corner.
I transplanted clones directly into the base mix in small containers, and when they were ready I transplanted into 5gal smart pots filled with the homogenous 'food' mix.
They only gotten RO water. I had a bit of a cal spotting/and mag chlorosis but adding calmag to my water has fixed it.
So far I'm very happy. I'm more interested in topdressing amendments than I am in making and dealing with teas and such... So far I haven't had to do anything but I did throw a bit of kelp meal at one or two plants.
So, I'm basically water only as of now... Time will tell if my soil will feed the plants thru flower.
Let me know if I can help you in any way!
Good luck RB!
racerboy71
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yeah, i always through my catches back.. pretty much the only people i have seen keep fish around here is some asian people.. i've walked by a few with a bag on the ground and the bag will be all squirming and what not, and i'll think to myself, eww, no he isn't, lol..
greasemonkeymann
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heh, yeah well pattahabi got me hooked, and i'll tell ya, the organic guys over there are some cool dudes.
Good stuff, the stickys alone are good reads, combine that with the stickys here, and you don't need to ask anymore questions, it'll cover EVERYTHING.
grasscity vs RIU, is a lot like a chevy vs ford or a Honda vs Toyota type of thing
hyroot
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even if doing a small grow. Mixing your own soil is cheaper and easier. Even if buying bagged soil you still need to do some mixing. So recommending using bagged soil for.ease is an oxymoron. Ffof is not organic. (synth urea). You don't have to mix a giant pile at a time. I live in a condo. I mix up enough to fit in a 20 gal rubbermmaid tote at time. Just break it down. Peatmoss, coco, castings, compost, pumice and nutrients. Doesn't take very long either. Much simpler than you think. Mixing up a mix of bottled nutes every watering is far more time consuming than making a tea. When I do.teas I don't measure anything really. Just throw n handfuls of what ever.
ignore docs posts. He does the same thing in every organic thread. He probably works for a hydro company.
ignore docs posts. He does the same thing in every organic thread. He probably works for a hydro company.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
lol, thanks for making me smile sunni, was needed.racerboy didnt like my post</3 jk
i posted some good reading info silly on like 1st or 2nd pagelol, thanks for making me smile sunni, was needed.
racerboy71
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don't know how i missed it, sorry.. i'll check it out..
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
this the site sunni? http://kylekushman.com/i posted some good reading info silly on like 1st or 2nd page