Help My Sugar Please.

Michiganja Meduana

Michiganja Meduana

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Evetytime I grow a Sugar, right in the middle of veg, I have the hardest time with the bottom leaves dying and falling off. The plant looks pretty healthy as you can see, but this morning, leaves started dropping again. Here's a pic today, and the leaves that fell. I got them out of the trash can for the pic.

I'm growing in soilless mix, 35% perlite. I'm using General Hydroponics ferts. R/O but adding CaMg+. 1,000w HPS + 600W. MH Eye bulbs. 24/0 . Four, T-5 4' 12% UVB @ 15 on / 45 off

The plant is now 6 weeks, sprouted from fem seed on 7-25-14

LST and topped, twice.



 
Michiganja Meduana

Michiganja Meduana

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I gave it R/O with CaMg+ @ 5ml/gal. And a 5ml of Flora Micro 5-0-1 mixed with 5ml/gal FloraBloom 0-5-4. That should gve an even NPK of 5-5-5, right? I was trying to give it a balance of everything.
 
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bondoman

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10ml seems very high for such a small plant. Also focus on N at this point, not PK. Forget bloom right now and use a nute very high in N, but start slowly. Don't feed it 10ml. Pick up a bag of MG blood meal it's pretty cheap, and work a tablespoon or 2 in the top of the soil.
 
Michiganja Meduana

Michiganja Meduana

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I dont check ppms. Never understood what the numbers I was reading on the meter meant, and when I trd to find out, I had no luck. So, I followed the instructions on the bottle. It says 5ml/gallon, and I needed camg for the R/O. Since didnt know what it needed, I gave it a single dose of N, using the 5-0-1, and I gave it a single dose of 0-5-4, for the P and K. I'm hoping that will hold her until I could get to you all for some help.
 
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bondoman

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well since you followed the instructions on the bottles you now have perfect plants, good luck to you.
 
BigTexan

BigTexan

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ppms are essential if you want to know exactly how much your plants getting for example 2000 ppm would be extremely high and the plant would have a hard time soaking all that up, first 4 weeks of flower i give them around 8-900 ppm, all throughout veg my ppm starts from about 1000 and goes up to 1800. why? Because they fucking grow like monsters once they hit flower with lower ppms. it also all depends on the strain this is just the strain im currently growing (white widow) sometimes i have to match ppms in flower and veg because i have some strains that need more nutes than others. but a low ppm is always better than a high ppm you can always add more to your girls.
 
RetiredMatthebrute

RetiredMatthebrute

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bondoman said:
well since you followed the instructions on the bottles you now have perfect plants, good luck to you.
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bad mood? or just a natural douche bag?

to OP. using soiless medium and given you said everything goes well untill mid grow i will go out on a limb here and say possible salt buildup is hapening. try flushing the dog shit out of it and then returning to normal feeding schedule. you can drop the PK boosters untill flowerin since the plant dosent use them they sit in the medium and create more salt buildup.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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bondoman said:
oh joy, an internet tough guy? or keyboard warrior?
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please stop the funny stuff. its not cool. I've been where your at in life. hurting peoples feelings to make your life better. i had to change. now its your turn. life has a way of working its self out. its quite awesome.
 
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bondoman

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a mongo frog said:
please stop the funny stuff. its not cool. I've been where your at in life. hurting peoples feelings to make your life better. i had to change. now its your turn. life has a way of working its self out. its quite awesome.
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really? my post of "well since you followed the instructions on the bottles you now have perfect plants, good luck to you."

was that bad? oh boy I didn't know we had such a sensitive bunch of girls here.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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bondoman said:
really? my post of "well since you followed the instructions on the bottles you now have perfect plants, good luck to you."

was that bad? oh boy I didn't know we had such a sensitive bunch of girls here.
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im a pretty sensitive guy friend. ims orry if i read your post wrong, i just thought you were blowing smoke thats all...
 
RetiredMatthebrute

RetiredMatthebrute

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bondoman said:
really? my post of "well since you followed the instructions on the bottles you now have perfect plants, good luck to you."

was that bad? oh boy I didn't know we had such a sensitive bunch of girls here.
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it was a douche bag comment...nuff said.

bondoman said:
Internet tough guy it is, your type is fearsome.
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not trying to be tough, calling you a douche bag was not meant to be "fearsome"
 
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bondoman

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a mongo frog said:
im a pretty sensitive guy friend. ims orry if i read your post wrong, i just thought you were blowing smoke thats all...
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blowing off smoke? no. OP asks for help. I attempted to help them, and then they reply well I followed the directions on the bottle. Why ask for help then?
 
brissel

brissel

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bondoman said:
really? my post of "well since you followed the instructions on the bottles you now have perfect plants, good luck to you."

was that bad? oh boy I didn't know we had such a sensitive bunch of girls here.
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lel top kek
 
Michiganja Meduana

Michiganja Meduana

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BigTexan said:
ppms are essential if you want to know exactly how much your plants getting for example 2000 ppm would be extremely high and the plant would have a hard time soaking all that up, first 4 weeks of flower i give them around 8-900 ppm, all throughout veg my ppm starts from about 1000 and goes up to 1800. why? Because they fucking grow like monsters once they hit flower with lower ppms. it also all depends on the strain this is just the strain im currently growing (white widow) sometimes i have to match ppms in flower and veg because i have some strains that need more nutes than others. but a low ppm is always better than a high ppm you can always add more to your girls.
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Thank you. I always wanted to know this information.

I mixed up a batch of 5-5-5 with CaMg+ this morning, exactly what I gave her yesterday, so that I could measure the PPMs. I'm starting with R/O. The PPMs were 875.
 
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