Retirement Without Working: It wont be long before we all go on vacation!!

god1

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The social security system has been looted and the piggy bank stuffed full of IOU's. Yes, it is a handout now because the government stole all the money and spent it on other things.

Also, When people get multiple times more back from social security than they pay in it is most certainly a welfare program. The government is not wisely investing the money and paying it back with interest.
The social security system has been looted and the piggy bank stuffed full of IOU's. Yes, it is a handout now because the government stole all the money and spent it on other things.

Also, When people get multiple times more back from social security than they pay in it is most certainly a welfare program. The government is not wisely investing the money and paying it back with interest.

Yeah it was the kiss of death when they started raiding the trust fund and transferring to the general fund.
I agree, capping the limits at 2x would be useful.
Let these old fucks die in the streets if they didn't prepare. Or live at Buck's house!
I personally would be glad if they just gave me what I've paid in ... for the last nearly 19 plus years I've paid the max on a yearly basis. And I'm a sole proprietor, that means I pay double an employee! I'm fucked chicken ... I'm tired of paying for fucking poor stupid people! They can go live with Bucky!
 

UncleBuck

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Let these old fucks die in the streets if they didn't prepare.
that's the measure of a great nation, and probably the same thing you'll be saying when you face an unexpected medical malady that threatens your life.

so much easier to be brave on the internet.
 

UncleBuck

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not much of an argument!
it's just that paulbots (and the pauls themselves) are such known plagiarists.

it made me proud that you had the courage to let us all know who you were plugging in your thoughts and insights from instead of making us all guess.
 

god1

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that's the measure of a great nation, and probably the same thing you'll be saying when you face an unexpected medical malady that threatens your life.

so much easier to be brave on the internet.
I'd be truly happy if they just game me my money, and stopped taxing for the poor and thoughtless; I'd go it alone --- I pay for private insurance and I have my investments. When it goes, I go!

Shouldn't that be the attitude everybody should embrace? I don't mind helping somebody out, I don't like being taken advantage of.
 

ElfoodStampo

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it's just that paulbots (and the pauls themselves) are such known plagiarists.

it made me proud that you had the courage to let us all know who you were plugging in your thoughts and insights from instead of making us all guess.
No, I have no problem is showing my sources. I don't like it when people just put information out with no citation. I know not all my post have it but I'm happy to dig up sources.
The NYSE is not what it used to be, whether it started as a sham or its simply become so belligerent that there's no hiding it anymore, I don't believe its the place to stick your money.
 

god1

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doesn't every wealthy, prosperous nation employ a regressive tax on the poor?

Listen, it's regressive only if you can't produce. We've got a lot of bottom feeders fucking it up for the rest of us; they just don't contribute. I don't mind helping people working to their full ability and trying to hold their own, it's the scumbags leaches. You know what I'm talking about.
 

ElfoodStampo

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"you're on your own" is basically the motto of every great nation.
I agree with this, if it were the case, people would need to help each other, not expect what they don't deserve. Instead of relying on the Gov to redistribute, they would ask for help from those in their lives they helped or at least been a part of. if they didn't help anyone..well.. that's their own fault. It would make for a better society with better values in my opinion.
 

UncleBuck

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Listen, it's regressive only if you can't produce. We've got a lot of bottom feeders fucking it up for the rest of us; they just don't contribute. I don't mind helping people working to their full ability and trying to hold their own, it's the scumbags leaches. You know what I'm talking about.
I agree with this, if it were the case, people would need to help each other, not expect what they don't deserve. Instead of relying on the Gov to redistribute, they would ask for help from those in their lives they helped or at least been a part of. if they didn't help anyone..well.. that's their own fault. It would make for a better society with better values in my opinion.
sounds like you chaps have it all figured out. everyone should get it all done on their own.

thus, you shouldn't need my help implementing your failed, regressive ideas. you should be able to implement your dystopia all on your own.

rend pawl 2016!
 

ElfoodStampo

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sounds like you chaps have it all figured out. everyone should get it all done on their own.

thus, you shouldn't need my help implementing your failed, regressive ideas. you should be able to implement your dystopia all on your own.

rend pawl 2016!
You'll need help along the way for sure. you cant survive as a baby without other people. but that's what makes you want to let your aging parents live with you as they approach death. I think that reasoning is way better than taking my money and giving it to someone because they have made poor decision in their lives, or whatever circumstance got them to where they are.
 

god1

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sounds like you chaps have it all figured out. everyone should get it all done on their own.

thus, you shouldn't need my help implementing your failed, regressive ideas. you should be able to implement your dystopia all on your own.

rend pawl 2016!

Hey you're trying to purchase your first house, good for you. Go buy some investment property next; be careful about who you rent to. People that don't own anything, have a different mindset about personal property. Trust me, you'll have a whole different opinion about this economic stuff once you start dealing with these folks.
 

UncleBuck

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Hey you're trying to purchase your first house, good for you. Go buy some investment property next; be careful about who you rent to. People that don't own anything, have a different mindset about personal property. Trust me, you'll have a whole different opinion about this economic stuff once you start dealing with these folks.
pardon my french, retard, but our family owns apartments in several different states.

you make it seem as though people who rent are savages.

it tells the tale of a naive and retarded landlord that no one likes dealing with.
 

god1

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pardon my french, retard, but our family owns apartments in several different states.

you make it seem as though people who rent are savages.

it tells the tale of a naive and retarded landlord that no one likes dealing with.

you didn't read ... read it again.
 

NLXSK1

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Yeah it was the kiss of death when they started raiding the trust fund and transferring to the general fund.
I agree, capping the limits at 2x would be useful.
Let these old fucks die in the streets if they didn't prepare. Or live at Buck's house!
I personally would be glad if they just gave me what I've paid in ... for the last nearly 19 plus years I've paid the max on a yearly basis. And I'm a sole proprietor, that means I pay double an employee! I'm fucked chicken ... I'm tired of paying for fucking poor stupid people! They can go live with Bucky!
I dont advocate letting anyone die in the street. We have medicaid for people who need medical help but are destitute. There are both public and private shelters and I could go on and on about public assistance.

We need to functionally change how we handle retirement. However, the government is bound and determined to take over healthcare and other things and it is going in the wrong direction.
 
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