Obamacare to cut work hours by equivalent of 2 million jobs: CBO
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given that republicans will stand on the senate floor and make statements that they later have to claim were "not intended to be a factual statement", i worry a little more about one side than the other.
furthermore, it has been brought to my attention that the CBO did not even attribute this cutting of work hours to obamacare.
fox news did run with that headline though.
That isn't my point, in the past when talking about other issues, you have spoken of CBO estiments the same way a preacher might speak of the bible at an old fashion tent revival.
When the CBO supports your argument, its word is solid gold, when it doesn't, you call it a partisan rag that doesn't mean what it says.
Pinworm
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Pinworm
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I haven't really looked at that one way or another, but I tend to agree with your stated facts. However, you often claim we need to do more for these people who can't make ends meet, and now here you are pointing out that they aren't working as much as they could, that they are in fact passing up opportunities to work.
Yet you demand we should pay them more, instead of asking them to work more to meet their needs.
I just find that interesting.
As to your point about pinworm and his elipsses, I don't often use them. Prhaps you were directing that at someone else. The only time I really know for sure their use is appropriate is when you are quoting something and you are leaving out some of the words, you bridge the two blocks of text with elipsses where the other, unused words from your quote would go. Other uses are less clear with their correctness.
Are you attempting to pimp me out?
UncleBuck
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that's not true in any way at all.
i just searched all comments i have made about the CBO, and i say the same thing every time: they just plug in the numbers they are given.
you are lying through what few teeth you likely have.
by the way, i found you and some of your friends on instagram or some other photo sharing site. you're cute. very cute.
oh please share. I hate to admit my ignorance, but I'm not sure what instagram is.
I've heard you trumpet CBO projections in defense of, or in favor of several things. I've never heard you say until tonight that it it is garbage in garbage out.
I'm sure plenty of others remember you using the CBO as both shield and sword in arguments past.
Seriousy, share the instagram info, I would like to see what you think youve found.
Pinworm
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omgoshdudeness! ... post a snap, I have to get rid of this mean erection.
UncleBuck
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i have only ever made a positive argument for minimum wage by invoking those who actually work full time. another lie from you.
and if i had to, i would make a positive argument for the minimum wage to go up to $10.10 and indexed to inflation for ALL who choose to work, as i wish to encourage work.
i don't see how that is interesting, it is a pretty boring, mundane argument for the dignity of work.
this again proves that your shitty, grade school spelling abilities are not due to a faulty voice translator. you never abuse ellipses though....you seem to know when it is right to use ellipses......and when it is not.........and how many to use.
UncleBuck
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i am a believer in the free market. you should get all that you are worth.
for you, that means making sandwiches for the menfolk. and possibly gay for pay prostitution.
this is due to your choices in life, not mine.
now make me a sandwich and suck pinworm's cock.
Pinworm
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He's going to have to get in line like everyone else.
UncleBuck
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not gonna share what others can find as easily as i did.
here is what i have said about the CBO in the past, you lying (hello, cannabineer).
ya mean, the same CBO you guys wrote off as useless whenever they come up with numbers that say otherwise?
too easy.
you just got caught lying by the search engine, BigotedNPushy.
Pinworm
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UncleBuck
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witness a rightie doubting the power of the almighty CBO:
it would be nice to contrast this quote qith one of him agreeing with the CBO without question in this thread.
it would be nice to contrast this quote qith one of him agreeing with the CBO without question in this thread.
I'll take my lumps there, I can't prove what I've said (well, not willing to go to the lengths necessary to prove them, or attempt to), and you have presented evidence.
Therefore, by the preponderance of the evidence standard, you win.
I wouldn't give it to you on "clear and convincing" thoug because out of 53k posts, probably 15-25k, if not more, in this political sub forum, I cannot believe you have only mentioned the CBO a few times.
I know I have read you using CBO projections as evidence to prove, or lend credence to a democratic issue. Others may chime in and say if they also, or also don't.
I will at least give you credit for one thing. Through my earlier posts I may have indicated that you had never before said the CBO can be junk, you clearly have in the past, so good for you, I was wrong there. I can't be expected to have read every post you have made. I might have overstated with my hyperbole, but the substance of my post is true, you have used CBO estimates as supporting factors in your arguments in the past and presented them in such a way to imply they were fact.
By the way, I don't always use the voice to text function. Only from my phone. I don't spell well, that is a weakness of mine. My grammar is ok, not perfect. I hardly see what that has to do with anything.
As to the full time/part time thing. It is my understanding the VAST majority of those earning minimum wage, or very close to it (say $8.50 or less) are part time workers. What does your data tell you on this? I'm sure there are some full time workers who earn minimum or very near it, but percentage wise, it's very low. I am sure there are a lot not making $10.10, but I would be willing to bet over 75% or more full time workers earn over $9/hr. [edit- the data, to be accurate, would need to compare it at federal minimum, and ignore those states who have raised it. It is dishonest to use min-wage workers from California or wherever it is that has higher, and lump them with the lower federal min-wage workers and say both are min-wage workers. Valid data would need to use the number of workers working at or very near the federal minimum.]
I've not seen any data on that, just basing it off of experience. I don't know anyone working full time personally who earns under $10/hr. The staff at subway was all part time, except management, and I think she made $11, and the assistants $10.
If you won't post the instagram stuff, at least send it in a pm. I'll be honest if it's me or not, and hell I might even send you a Facebook link for your trouble.
Therefore, by the preponderance of the evidence standard, you win.
I wouldn't give it to you on "clear and convincing" thoug because out of 53k posts, probably 15-25k, if not more, in this political sub forum, I cannot believe you have only mentioned the CBO a few times.
I know I have read you using CBO projections as evidence to prove, or lend credence to a democratic issue. Others may chime in and say if they also, or also don't.
I will at least give you credit for one thing. Through my earlier posts I may have indicated that you had never before said the CBO can be junk, you clearly have in the past, so good for you, I was wrong there. I can't be expected to have read every post you have made. I might have overstated with my hyperbole, but the substance of my post is true, you have used CBO estimates as supporting factors in your arguments in the past and presented them in such a way to imply they were fact.
By the way, I don't always use the voice to text function. Only from my phone. I don't spell well, that is a weakness of mine. My grammar is ok, not perfect. I hardly see what that has to do with anything.
As to the full time/part time thing. It is my understanding the VAST majority of those earning minimum wage, or very close to it (say $8.50 or less) are part time workers. What does your data tell you on this? I'm sure there are some full time workers who earn minimum or very near it, but percentage wise, it's very low. I am sure there are a lot not making $10.10, but I would be willing to bet over 75% or more full time workers earn over $9/hr. [edit- the data, to be accurate, would need to compare it at federal minimum, and ignore those states who have raised it. It is dishonest to use min-wage workers from California or wherever it is that has higher, and lump them with the lower federal min-wage workers and say both are min-wage workers. Valid data would need to use the number of workers working at or very near the federal minimum.]
I've not seen any data on that, just basing it off of experience. I don't know anyone working full time personally who earns under $10/hr. The staff at subway was all part time, except management, and I think she made $11, and the assistants $10.
If you won't post the instagram stuff, at least send it in a pm. I'll be honest if it's me or not, and hell I might even send you a Facebook link for your trouble.
Pinworm
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Fwd that shit to parasite.
UncleBuck
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Only in your world is that statement seen as an admission of a lie. Even using the search function with you there are endless pages of nonsense to wade through before one could finally find the nugget they are looking for. It isn't worth it to win an Internet argument where you would never admit, accept, or change your dishonest ways.
