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[NLXSK1]

kelly4 and i had a couple beers while talking about what an idiot you are today. so 2.

That's funny... when you assumed consciousness and started throwing insults around the board was the first time I have thought about you since yesterday...

I must really get to you if it invades your real life :]

 

[UncleBuck]

That's funny... when you assumed consciousness and started throwing insults around the board was the first time I have thought about you since yesterday...

I must really get to you if it invades your real life :]

we talked about a lot of people. he brought you up as the idiot.

another swing and a miss.

 

[ginwilly]

then why the diagnostic criteria that matches the diagnostic criteria in the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders if not for diagnosis?

just sleight of hand? is it to throw us off the trail of agenda 21, the latest sandra fluke conspiracy, or those gay bullies who want to bully cake makers by giving them money to bake cakes?

you tell me.

I'm answering this as if you are asking a serious question because you don't know and not as if you are just trying to act like you know something you don't.

Why do you think those codes would match up? Would you as a health care provider use codes that don't reimburse?

Is using an ICD-whatever code for leg lifts a diagnosis?

You keep this up and you'll have to admit that Kynes was right and you were wrong, we know that won't happen so just go back to yelling racist.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'm answering this as if you are asking a serious question because you don't know and not as if you are just trying to act like you know something you don't.

Why do you think those codes would match up? Would you as a health care provider use codes that don't reimburse?

Is using an ICD-whatever code for leg lifts a diagnosis?

i'll just repeat the question since apparently it makes you uncomfortable.

then why the diagnostic criteria that matches the diagnostic criteria in the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders if not for diagnosis?

 

[ginwilly]

i'll just repeat the question since apparently it makes you uncomfortable.

then why the diagnostic criteria that matches the diagnostic criteria in the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders if not for diagnosis?

holy shit are you dense

When ICD9 replaced ICD8, some of the codes changed, some stayed the same. For the codes that changed, the charges reflected those changes. The diagnosis or treatment did not change, the code did. ICD10 explodes the amount of coding needed so now there will be as many as 17 choices for something where there was one before.

The diagnosis codes change with the ICD codes for reimbursement purposes, yet the diagnoses did not change. Making sense yet?

 

[UncleBuck]

holy shit are you dense

When ICD9 replaced ICD8, some of the codes changed, some stayed the same. For the codes that changed, the charges reflected those changes. The diagnosis or treatment did not change, the code did. ICD10 explodes the amount of coding needed so now there will be as many as 17 choices for something where there was one before.

The diagnosis codes change with the ICD codes for reimbursement purposes, yet the diagnoses did not change. Making sense yet?

but you said the ICD 10 is not for diagnosis? so why does it contain diagnostic criteria?

 

[ginwilly]

but you said the ICD 10 is not for diagnosis? so why does it contain diagnostic criteria?

Alright man just stop. Are you trying to frame it now that coders diagnose? Of course not are you, then why are you continuing down this losing fight?

If I use an IC-9 code for a diagnosis that was changed in IC-10 I will NOT get reimbursed. Does that change the diagnosis? fuck no, now stop being obtuse.

 

[UncleBuck]

Alright man just stop. Are you trying to frame it now that coders diagnose? Of course not are you, then why are you continuing down this losing fight?

If I use an IC-9 code for a diagnosis that was changed in IC-10 I will NOT get reimbursed. Does that change the diagnosis? fuck no, now stop being obtuse.

you said the ICD-10 is not for diagnosis. so why does it contain diagnostic criteria?

 

[ginwilly]

you said the ICD-10 is not for diagnosis. so why does it contain diagnostic criteria?

you poor thing

My best guess is you overheard your wife complaining about DSM-5 and ICD-10 and how she will have to use the diagnosis criteria mandated, what you don't realize is the end of her thought is "if we want to get paid". Now you realize Kynes was right and you would rather die than admit he knows more about it than you.

 

[UncleBuck]

you poor thing

My best guess is you overheard your wife complaining about DSM-5 and ICD-10 and how she will have to use the diagnosis criteria mandated, what you don't realize is the end of her thought is "if we want to get paid". Now you realize Kynes was right and you would rather die than admit he knows more about it than you.

so there is diagnostic criteria in the ICD-10?

 

[ginwilly]

so there is diagnostic criteria in the ICD-10?

Not in the way you are trying to frame it to keep from admitting Kynes is smarter than you.

ICD are codes for billing purposes. A coder or a biller can NOT diagnose by law, what you are suggesting is asinine.

If a doc tried to help out and diagnosed you with type II diabetes and neuropathy bilateral lower extremities and put 250.00 as the code, the coder would come back to him and say doc, you mentioned the neuropathy, the correct code is 250.62.

The diagnosis does not change with the code change so no, ICD-10 is NOT a diagnostic tool.

 

[UncleBuck]

ICD-10 is NOT a diagnostic tool.

then what's up with the diagnostic criteria?

 

[ginwilly]

then what's up with the diagnostic criteria?

lol, tell me what you think it means?

Doc says in his write up that pt suffers from chondromalacia in lft knee. Coder says doc, we don't have a code for that. Doc says do you have one for knee pain? Coder says yes, doc then says pt suffers from lft knee pain secondary to chondromalacia so he can get reimbursed.

Do you think ICD diagnose patients in any way shape or form?

 

[SmokeyDan]

like a malfunctioning AC condenser in Tuscaloosa Mississippi.

Tuscaloosa is in Alabama, dipshit. You're thinking of Pascagoula I suppose.

 

[UncleBuck]

lol, tell me what you think it means?

are you asking me what i think the diagnostic criteria in the IDC-10 means?

di·ag·nos·tic
ˌdīəgˈnästik/
adjective

1. 1.
   concerned with the diagnosis of illness or other problems.
   "a diagnostic tool"
2. 2.
   characteristic of a particular species, genus, or phenomenon.
   "the diagnostic character of having not one but two pairs of antennae"

noun

1. 1.
   a distinctive symptom or characteristic.
2. 2.
   the practice or techniques of diagnosis.
   "advanced medical diagnostics"

cri·te·ri·on
krīˈti(ə)rēən/
noun
plural noun: criteria

1. a principle or standard by which something may be judged or decided.

tell me, as a glorified nurse, do you hear your superiors diagnose people with "alcoholism" or "meth addiction", or do they talk in terms of substance abuse and dependency?

what is the IDC-10 code for "cannabis addiction"?

is there a IDC-10 code for "substance abuse" or "substance dependency", and might cannabis meet the diagnostic criteria found within the IDC-10 for substance abuse or dependency?

thanks again, dipshit.

 

[SmokeyDan]

Buck, despite arguing on the correct side of the debate, you have been made a fool of.

Good job, loser.

 

[UncleBuck]

Buck, despite arguing on the correct side of the debate, you have been made a fool of.

Good job, loser.

good job on proclaiming victory.

i'm sure ginwilly appreciates having another white supremacist on his side. i was getting the feeling that desert dude wasn't enough moral support, and kynes has been really slacking lately.

 

[SmokeyDan]

I'm not proclaiming victory.

You and I are the ones with the most closely related arguments in this topic.

You fucking blew it.

 

[ginwilly]

I'm not proclaiming victory.

You and I are the ones with the most closely related arguments in this topic.

You fucking blew it.

he's arguing that codes for billing are diagnostic tools. He's far away from you now in his quest to prove Kynes and now me wrong.

He took the little knowledge he had about medical coding he heard from his wife and turned into something completely wrong.

Then declared everyone who disagreed with him about it racist, not that anyone is surprised.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'm not proclaiming victory.

You and I are the ones with the most closely related arguments in this topic.

You fucking blew it.

no, your argument was equally retarded as kynes' argument.

"addiction" is not in the lexicon. substance abuse and dependency are.