Green Crack looks very loose, outdoor grow

[warble]

This is my first soil grow that has gotten this far. I had bugs last year. Anyhow, Some SNS and azamax has helped get past that. I was wondering if I could give this green crack some extra nutes in order to make it a little more tight looking, like the nugs you get at the dispensaries.
I am using advanced nutrients summer blend 13-15-11 and rain water for foliar. Next week I'm going to switch to the fall blend 13-14-15, should I use some sort of booster on top of that? Maybe something like bud candy or tigerbloom? Any brand recommendations would be helpful, if you would please. It smokes nice, but it just doesn't look like the stuff they have in the dispensaries. If there is no way of making them look right, what can I do to increase production? I like the taste and effects, but not the looks. I'll have better pix to show progress next update. The first picture is from early July and the next one was from early August.

 

[Bugeye]

How long have you been flowering? Are you spraying for bugs or doing soil drench?

 

[Slab]

Are there seed in there? Looks hermied

 

[Yodaweed]

Looks like bad genetics

 

[warble]

How long have you been flowering? Are you spraying for bugs or doing soil drench?

They started flowering back around the end of June. They've been in the ground since March. I'm using Azamax and SNS 203 for the bugs. It seems to help quite a bit.

 

[Bugeye]

They started flowering back around the end of June. They've been in the ground since March. I'm using Azamax and SNS 203 for the bugs. It seems to help quite a bit.

They might have started revegging after flower started.

 

[warble]

Are there seed in there? Looks hermied

I squeezed them, and they don't feel like anything solid, but that is they way it looks when starting out. I've been growing this girl indoors, but by this time indoors, the flowers are getting tighter. Is there something I'm missing outdoors? I put some worm tea on them last night and everything in their center's are really bright green this morning. The new growth seems to take away from the flowers getting tight. Can I add some sort of nute that would be less nitrogen intense to stop the new growth and more phosphorus and potasium to increase the flower blooming tighter.

 

[youngbuzz101]

hey man personally I want to tell you to save your money and not buy any additional additives it looks like your plant has reached maturity nothing you do including divine intervention is going to change the fate of this out door plant. Im sorry. I have been in your situation before learning outdoor. Either you have bad genetics as said earlier. Or your growing in bad soil ie. natural ground that hasn't been ammended properly, or cheap soil, or your ph was slightly off, or you were planted in an area that didn't maximize sun exposure or penetration.

Are there seed in there? Looks hermied

I don't believe there is seeds I think the calyxes are swollen because she is ready to be harvested.

 

[youngbuzz101]

oh I never saw your last post I must have been writing while you were posting. Yeah I agree with bugeye that makes a lot of sense as well. If you started indoors and moved it outdoors after it started flowering in june that would definitely revert them back into veg.

Depending where you are located globally but if in us/can yes thats your best bet as of right now plants are just starting to cross into the first weeks of flower in early august.

But if it has flowered on its own (outdoors) and is swelling and browning well then I stand by my first post. If your growing outdoor like you said for the first time but have experience indoor then you could get deceived about the amount of control you have over your plants environment.

Control goes as far as the environment in which you introduce your plant once it has been grounded and the foundation set you will see the success of your plant based on your placement decision.

 

[warble]

Looks like bad genetics

This is the genetics that it comes from. I don't see a problem with that at this time. I would like to know if someone knows of some product that I can add to my Advanced Nutrients Summer Blend to stop new growth and just grow the flowers bigger, more dense like the mother that I grew indoors or the stuff you get at the dispensaries. I have a couple of quart jars left, but I want this stuff that has been growing all Summer, to be consistent for my medication that I have had great relief with.

 

[youngbuzz101]

dude no product will do that no product can halt vegetative growth and push into flower. That solemnly boils down to light IE. time of year for outdoor. There are many products that boost plant vitality resulting in a more effiecient plant which means faster growth. But no one is going to be able to help with a magical tonic. If you want you can take your plant indoors for a couple weeks under 12/12 and then bring it back out when plants are in full bloom outdoors probably a week or two from now. Unless you have plants going indoors as well and then I would scratch that idea as you said you were dealing with pest problems and that would just F$ck everything up. If its revegging it will stop once the seasons say so and it will continue to grow and bud heavily you need not worry unless the flower phase out lasts your fall season and gets interupted by frost. But if your in a frost free zone you shouldn't have to worry. Relax as long as the plant like I said earlier didn't start to bud on its own outside you should be fine once it switches back into flower. If not then your plant is already finishing and you just have to try again next year with a climatised strain with the right conditions.

 

[youngbuzz101]

or heres an Idea you can put a garbage bag over top of your plant and simulate 48 hrs darkness to push it back into the direction you want to go kind of like a restart button. I haven't done it myself but many people use light hindrance outdoors to manipulate their situations.

 

[Bugeye]

If she's smoking okay and the trichomes are cloudy, hash her up.

or heres an Idea you can put a garbage bag over top of your plant and simulate 48 hrs darkness to push it back into the direction you want to go kind of like a restart button. I haven't done it myself but many people use light hindrance outdoors to manipulate their situations.

And next year you can put an interupt light on them for an hour during the night to make sure they do not flower early.

 

[chuck estevez]

time for some bad news, that plant is ruined. you can tell from the salad leaves that she re vegged, but then re flowered.

 

[Da Mann]

I think you need to look at your nutes. Might have been hit to hard with the Phosphorus in growth stage.

 

[ErieR33FER]

Definitely just make oil with it, it's easy. The plant doesn't have the foundation of pistols/calyxes to swell and produce more bud, what u see is what you get.

To make oil easily: buy a honeybee extractor from internet or headshop, should be around 20 dollars, then buy butane ( highly refined,filtered butane from headshop preferably) blast the butane thru the weed onto Pyrex dish.

Look up how to make butane oil.

 

[warble]

Thank you YoungBuzz101 for your input. You are so right about not being able to control so much in the environment. I would love to bring her inside and control stuff like temp, humidity, light, but since she's already started flowering, I'm just gonna leave her in place and plan for a better plant next year. I live in southern California, so shouldn't have to worry about the frost in the fall. I think she will be ready early October.
Now about next year's plant, could you suggest a strain that would be good producer for southern California? I got some clones I cut from some plants I started w/ seeds. Let me know if you'd suggest any of these: I have headband, white widow, candy jack, JillyBean, SoCal private reserve, and dawg towne haze. They are in solo cups w/ Subcool's super soil. You have been very helpful and I would appreciate you letting me know, if you're familiar with any of these strains growing in southern California well.
Here's my white widow growing right along side the green crack. This one seems to mature quite a bit quicker than the green crack. I put the white widow outdoors in May.

 

[youngbuzz101]

If she's smoking okay and the trichomes are cloudy, hash her up.


And next year you can put an interupt light on them for an hour during the night to make sure they do not flower early.

Would that not make them prone to hermie?

 

[Bugeye]

Would that not make them prone to hermie?

Not at all.

 

[youngbuzz101]

I am not a strain specialist or any specialist for that matter you should look to someone else on that topic lol im just a connoisseur with some personal experience. I live in Canada and SOCAL is a totally different climate zone. But i'm sure nearly all strains would be workable over there, maybe besides native sativas. But don't quote me I stick with pure indicas and light sativa hybrids for outdoors and lean higher on the sativa side indoors. You cannot go wrong with a afghan kush they are tanks and can take a beating they also flower up nice and quick.