Done With soil. Want to try Hempy Bucket. Need Input

[rob333]

Will coco draw up like peat moss. I just did peat moss and perlite mix 50/50 and that crap killed so many of my seedlings I just gave up on beans right now. That stuff stays wet to long every seedling that died when i pulled it from the medium the tap root was brown and dead.

coco no its very forgiving i use to put 3 feeds a day for 1 min crank that shit up

 

[Aeroknow]

coco no its very forgiving i use to put 3 feeds a day for 1 min crank that shit up

And yet, you can also grow in 5 or 7 gal pots and water every other, or every third day, and kick ass! I grow trees nowadays and kill it! When coco first came out, i was dripping multiple times(treating it more like hydro)a light cycle, and killed it. But YES! Very forgiving!

 

[Aeroknow]

Will coco draw up like peat moss. I just did peat moss and perlite mix 50/50 and that crap killed so many of my seedlings I just gave up on beans right now. That stuff stays wet to long every seedling that died when i pulled it from the medium the tap root was brown and dead.

Ok, this might make things confusing for you, but I actually like starting seeds in party cups with a peat based mix(pro-mix) way better than in coco. I like to think I know what I'm doing growing in coco. But I have lost sprouts in coco. i don't lose any, practically never, when starting in promix. Why? I have no clue. But than I pot up in to coco, and
Don't look back. Clones no problem directly into the coco.

 

[Indoor Sun King]

Ok I can't do soil anymore. This morning I woke up and my tent was filled with gnats. They were everywhere from the new soil I purchase yesterday. Soil is starting to be a pain in the pockets also because I don't live near any grow shops or anything that sells great soil so I always have to buy online. Then I'm tired of the cooking the soil and dragging soil in and out its getting to me now. I would do Hydro or Aero but I hate how I always run into temp problems with my reservoir. To be honest I forget to switch frozen bottles out. Im really thinking about Hempy Bucket grow. I have about 8 Cubic feet of perlite . I see that HB are very light and yield more then soil. I want to do 9-3gallon hempy buckets this next grow under a 1000w in a 4x4. Any Cons I should know about Hempy bucket besides the water all the time? I feel like everybody only talked about the pros of HB grow.

Hempy's are great, you get the advantage of hydroponics with the simplicity of dirt.

My suggestion would be to KISS at first, learn the ABC's then progress to coco or other mediums.

I use 3:1 perlite/vermiculite and feed with the basic Lucas Formula (GH Maxi-Bloom) with Cal-Mag (my water is very soft), and pH+

World of Hempy is a huge thread, but there is everything you need to get started....and lots of folks to support you along the way
https://www.rollitup.org/t/world-of-hempy.546006/

 

[GrowerGoneWild]

Hempy works well, just dont get wierd with it by ammending it with organics like soil. I burned my plants doing this.

Pearl/Verm + a simple salt based nutrient, like GH maxi gro. or whatever.

 

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

See thats the thing

And yet, you can also grow in 5 or 7 gal pots and water every other, or every third day, and kick ass! I grow trees nowadays and kill it! When coco first came out, i was dripping multiple times(treating it more like hydro)a light cycle, and killed it. But YES! Very forgiving!

See thats what I'm looking for I love watering every couple days indoors. Also with the peat moss I can fill a cup up with it and water till I have run off but then if i Dump the peat moss and perlite out the cup right after I water the peat has tons of dry spots throughout the whole cup. Thats why my seedlings die every time in this stuff I think. I will switch to coco first. To be honest I was doing Hempy grow because soil is to high and I can't do Hydro. If coco is good like that I should have been doing it.

 

[lilmafia513]

I would like to start by saying i have done hempy a few times and have made a link to transplanting a hempy grow the easy way, check it out in my signature link.

Do you use rapid rooters? Nothing pisses me off more, than when those bastards get into them, and fuck some of your rooting cuts.

I use rockwool cubes to start my clones in for hempy, and i have also just filled my clone trays with the perlite/vermiculite mix and moistened it, and just stuck my cuttings in the mix. Keep it moist like rockwool and roots will pop out in 3-5 days. keep the heat mat set to about 76 degrees farenheit.

soil is king

I would suggest you read some more of this forum and re-think your comment.....

 

[Aeroknow]

See thats the thing

See thats what I'm looking for I love watering every couple days indoors. Also with the peat moss I can fill a cup up with it and water till I have run off but then if i Dump the peat moss and perlite out the cup right after I water the peat has tons of dry spots throughout the whole cup. Thats why my seedlings die every time in this stuff I think. I will switch to coco first. To be honest I was doing Hempy grow because soil is to high and I can't do Hydro. If coco is good like that I should have been doing it.

You know, there has always been allot of chatter, about "needing" to water often in coco. While that holds true to smaller containers, i'm telling ya, you absolutely 100% can treat it more like dirt IF in larger pots. You definitely don't want it to dry all the way out, but rather, water/feed just as the top layer starts drying out, which you can tell just by looking at it.
I'll do 4 of the 7gal pots under a 1000w, and I don't need to water+feed but every third day. 6 of the 5gal pots, usually every other day. And if you gotta take off and must water a little earlier......It's all goooooood!
I grow this way these days, to comply with state plant limits. Why not rite?

 

[lilmafia513]

Hempy's are great, you get the advantage of hydroponics with the simplicity of dirt.

My suggestion would be to KISS at first, learn the ABC's then progress to coco or other mediums.

I use 3:1 perlite/vermiculite and feed with the basic Lucas Formula (GH Maxi-Bloom) with Cal-Mag (my water is very soft), and pH+

World of Hempy is a huge thread, but there is everything you need to get started....and lots of folks to support you along the way
https://www.rollitup.org/t/world-of-hempy.546006/

I agree with this post also, (Keep It Simple Stupid), Hempy is so easy to do sometimes you will think you are not doing enough to the girls.
The lucas method works great, but I have used the fox farm trio, yes the soil nutes, with the addition of some cal/mag, and had good results. fox farm also sells the nute line for hydro setups also that i heard worked better in hempy, but i have never tried those nutes.

 

[Aeroknow]

I agree with this post also, (Keep It Simple Stupid), Hempy is so easy to do sometimes you will think you are not doing enough to the girls.
The lucas method works great, but I have used the fox farm trio, yes the soil nutes, with the addition of some cal/mag, and had good results. fox farm also sells the nute line for hydro setups also that i heard worked better in hempy, but i have never tried those nutes.

A garbage can,pump,hose and a water wand, and some maxibloom is pretty KISS also
I personally use the heads modified lucas+1/2 tsp/gal of calmag. Because i'm in coco+ i got really soft water

 

[perdidobandito]

I would like to start by saying i have done hempy a few times and have made a link to transplanting a hempy grow the easy way, check it out in my signature link.

I use rockwool cubes to start my clones in for hempy, and i have also just filled my clone trays with the perlite/vermiculite mix and moistened it, and just stuck my cuttings in the mix. Keep it moist like rockwool and roots will pop out in 3-5 days. keep the heat mat set to about 76 degrees farenheit.

I would suggest you read some more of this forum and re-think your comment.....

Soil is king. It produces better tasting and smelling buds. But perhaps you are a cash cropper who cares about yield more than quality.

 

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

A garbage can,pump,hose and a water wand, and some maxibloom is pretty KISS also
I personally use the heads modified lucas+1/2 tsp/gal of calmag. Because i'm in coco+ i got really soft water

Just researched the Maxibloom and all I saw was nothing but Great reviews. I can use it from seedlings to harvest and buds are just as good as using a 5-6 bottle nute line. I will be purchasing MB today and a couple bricks of coco to mix with my perlite. Only thing I will use with the MB is Big Bud, Bud Candy, Rhino Skin, and molasses because I already have them. I plan to use the extra nutes until they are gone. I don't plan to buy any other nutes again besides Maxibloom, Epsom Salt, and Molasses. I never add Ca cause my water is already at 170ppm.

 

[Aeroknow]

Soil is king. It produces better tasting and smelling buds. But perhaps you are a cash cropper who cares about yield more than quality.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZZwT5XJeR0 Cached

 

[Aeroknow]

Just researched the Maxibloom and all I saw was nothing but Great reviews. I can use it from seedlings to harvest and buds are just as good as using a 5-6 bottle nute line. I will be purchasing MB today and a couple bricks of coco to mix with my perlite. Only thing I will use with the MB is Big Bud, Bud Candy, Rhino Skin, and molasses because I already have them. I plan to use the extra nutes until they are gone. I don't plan to buy any other nutes again besides Maxibloom, Epsom Salt, and Molasses. I never add Ca cause my water is already at 170ppm.

I can vouche for the 5k bricks(cocogro)
Mix 1 part #3 perlte with 2 parts coco.
I recomend, seriously, keeping most of those products on the shelf. Just because you have them doesn't make it necessary to use them. Trust me

Only other thing you gotta know
About coco: use a little less pottassium(if possible) and a little more Ca is needed, compared to growing in most other mediums.

 

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

Soil is king. It produces better tasting and smelling buds. But perhaps you are a cash cropper who cares about yield more than quality.

Soil is nice I've been growing with soil for 3-4 years now. Started my first grow year doing chemical nutes in soil then switch to Organic and I loved it. Only thing is dragging the soil everywhere and then the bugs that come with the soil. One of my buddys does Hydro and we grow some of the same strains he yields way more then me every time and to be honest I can't tell the difference in quality. I would stick to Organic Teas doing the perlite and Coco grow but I was told that its going to need some type of compost or casting mix in the perlite and coco and I have no place within 100miles of me that sells Worms Castings and the compost around here is from lowes which is crap.

 

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

I can vouche for the 5k bricks(cocogro)
Mix 1 part #3 perlte with 2 parts coco.
I recomend, seriously, keeping most of those products on the shelf. Just because you have them doesn't make it necessary to use them. Trust me

Only other thing you gotta know
About coco: use a little less pottassium(if possible) and a little more Ca is needed, compared to growing in most other mediums.

Well I still have my big Bottle of CaMg + so CaMg is no issue.

 

[Aeroknow]

Soil is nice I've been growing with soil for 3-4 years now. Started my first grow year doing chemical nutes in soil then switch to Organic and I loved it. Only thing is dragging the soil everywhere and then the bugs that come with the soil. One of my buddys does Hydro and we grow some of the same strains he yields way more then me every time and to be honest I can't tell the difference in quality. I would stick to Organic Teas doing the perlite and Coco grow but I was told that its going to need some type of compost or casting mix in the perlite and coco and I have no place within 100miles of me that sells Worms Castings and the compost around here is from lowes which is crap.

Well I still have my big Bottle of CaMg + so CaMg is no issue.

hydrate the brick coco with 1 tsp/gal of calmag. Look up "cation(pronounced cat-ion)exchange properties" of coco, you'll understand what I'm talking about. And you'll still want to make sure it's flushed good(with nutes) when you first pot up. Other than that, easy peasy baby!
And oh yeah, you can re-use it once. Try to remove as much of the roots as possible, and start using an enzyme product(to be safe)
I used to do that for security reasons. I just say fuck it now. Remember, re-use only once, or you get some crazy deficiencies/lockouts.

 

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

hydrate the brick coco with 1 tsp/gal of calmag. Look up "cation(pronounced cat-ion)exchange properties" of coco, you'll understand what I'm talking about. And you'll still want to make sure it's flushed good(with nutes) when you first pot up. Other than that, easy peasy baby!
And oh yeah, you can re-use it once. Try to remove as much of the roots as possible, and start using an enzyme product(to be safe)
I used to do that for security reasons. I just say fuck it now. Remember, re-use only once, or you get some crazy deficiencies/lockouts.

One time reuse is good enough for me. By the end of the 2nd run its then paid for itself and some more.

 

[lilmafia513]

Soil is king. It produces better tasting and smelling buds. But perhaps you are a cash cropper who cares about yield more than quality.

No, i do not even sell my crop, just smoke it and share with friends. And to be most honest the only method i use anymore is growing in soil, due to my particular environment, and laws. I am only saying that soil is king to those who believe so, much like christianity the king is only in the eyes of the beholder. I agree with you that soil is known to give better tasting and looking products, while hydro and other methods, are better for cash croppers wanting quick veg times. I also know small growers who grow only aeroponics for the same reason. Thanks for the reminder that there are still narrow minded people in our world, and good luck to you!!!

hydrate the brick coco with 1 tsp/gal of calmag. Look up "cation(pronounced cat-ion)exchange properties" of coco, you'll understand what I'm talking about. And you'll still want to make sure it's flushed good(with nutes) when you first pot up. Other than that, easy peasy baby!
And oh yeah, you can re-use it once. Try to remove as much of the roots as possible, and start using an enzyme product(to be safe)
I used to do that for security reasons. I just say fuck it now. Remember, re-use only once, or you get some crazy deficiencies/lockouts.

This guy knows what hes talking about!.....pulling up a chair to listen for awhile............Let me know when its my hit

 

[perdidobandito]

No, i do not even sell my crop, just smoke it and share with friends. And to be most honest the only method i use anymore is growing in soil, due to my particular environment, and laws. I am only saying that soil is king to those who believe so, much like christianity the king is only in the eyes of the beholder. I agree with you that soil is known to give better tasting and looking products, while hydro and other methods, are better for cash croppers wanting quick veg times. I also know small growers who grow only aeroponics for the same reason. Thanks for the reminder that there are still narrow minded people in our world, and good luck to you!!!

This guy knows what hes talking about!.....pulling up a chair to listen for awhile............Let me know when its my hit

You asked me to rethink my comment. I did just that and told you what I thought. That does not mean I am narrow minded. I cant really see your comparison in Christianity and soil. First of all, religion is a BIT different than growing mediums; in the sense that religion is like a belief or thought, and soil is a physical material. I am not saying one is better as a belief, I am saying it is better because for my purpose(personal use) soil is King. Lol