Should the US support Israel forever ?

Should the US support Israel, no matter what?


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Dr Kynes

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You and anyone who supports Israel are terrorist sympathizers

80% civilians..

You support ethnic cleansing
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if the jews really wanted to do some ethnic cleansing, they would leave gaza and the west bank spic and span in a month.

the israeli "genocide" has failed miserably, since there are ELEVEN HUNDRED PERCENT MORE PALLIES NOW THAN IN 1948!

i would expect the jews to have learned a thing or three from the germans...
 

Jimdamick

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North Korea vs South Korea, China V Tibet, Greece V Turkey, US V Cuba, Iran V US, Islam V Civilization, Sunni V Shiia, China V Uyghur, Turkey V Kurd, Albania V Bosnia/Yugoslav/Kosovar, Russia V The West, Africa V Africa, Leftism V People With Brains, Canada V Polar Bears, Eco-Loons V Humanity, Mexico V Our Borders, Ireland V Sobriety, Washington DC V Dope, You V Das Juden, etc etc etc.

i forgot the most vicious struggle of our times, Bucky V Work.
that struggle continues unabated.
I find this actually pretty funny, in contrast to a lot of your other attempts at humor. Oh, Ireland never fought sobriety, they just didn't like that much.
 

Jimdamick

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"Israel" - a land where
- most claim that the detention/segregation, theft from and killing of Jews in Nazi Germany . was the Most Horrendous crime - The Holocaust.
- many claim that the detention/segregation, theft from and killing of Palestinians by Jews . . in "Israel" is Most Appropriate - MOST Righteous and VERY GOOD !!
"Israel" -
- a land occupied by descendants of Jewish converts of Iranian, Turkic and Mongolian origin
from a bygone age who moved to Europe and were NEVER in or From Palestine and
whose descendants have now continuously stolen from and continually abused the Palestinian People.
"Israel" -
- a Residual Evil of Nazi Germany
- a practitioner of Eugenics like Nazi Germany
- a planner of ethnic cleansing like Nazi Germany
- the last bastion of Apartheid on Earth.
- an area with the "Chosen People" like Nazi Germany's "Aryan Master Race".
- the land of Eretz Yisrael like Nazi Germany's Lebensraum.
"Israel" -
- a place governed by people who make good Nazi concentration camp and gas chamber employees.
"Israel" -
- an eager, enthusiastic and incessant proponent of Evil.
"Israel" -
- an evil crime committed by Christians and Jews against Palestinians after Christians committed crimes against Jews in Europe.
"Israel" -
- a main source of injustice in the World which has contributed to militancy throughout the Muslim world.
"Israel" -
- a land which is Strongly supported by many People
Just as strongly as
Nazi Germany was supported by many People.
"Israel" -
- a crime in progress
By someone with a fucking brain, who isn't Jewish
 
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earnest_voice

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As this conflict continues i find myself siding with the Palestinian people more and more.

Fuck being occupied in your own country.

One of the key factors in this occupation is US funding. If it is withheld this occupation with certianly end.

This is all to similar to the US backing Indonesia as it genocided the east timorese
 

Jimdamick

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"The people who go into a house despite a warning do not have to be taken into account in terms of injury to civilians, because they are voluntary human shields. From the legal point of view, I do not have to show consideration for them. In the case of people who return to their home in order to protect it, they are taking part in the fighting.
The people who go into a house despite a warning do not have to be taken into account in terms of injury to civilians, because they are voluntary human shields. From the legal point of view, I do not have to show consideration for them. In the case of people who return to their home in order to protect it, they are taking part in the fighting"
An IDF directive concerning legality of non-combatant causalities
 

earnest_voice

Well-Known Member
"The people who go into a house despite a warning do not have to be taken into account in terms of injury to civilians, because they are voluntary human shields. From the legal point of view, I do not have to show consideration for them. In the case of people who return to their home in order to protect it, they are taking part in the fighting.
The people who go into a house despite a warning do not have to be taken into account in terms of injury to civilians, because they are voluntary human shields. From the legal point of view, I do not have to show consideration for them. In the case of people who return to their home in order to protect it, they are taking part in the fighting"
An IDF directive concerning legality of non-combatant causalities
This is where the Israel and the IDF gets its "human shields" myth. It has never provided concrete proof of its claims, but insist this is an everyday practice in Gaza.

Yet official reports and findings conceed there is no evidence to support the Israeli propaganda line. On the other hand there is plenty of eveidence that the IDF uses Palestinian Civilians as human shields.
 

NLXSK1

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This is where the Israel and the IDF gets its "human shields" myth. It has never provided concrete proof of its claims, but insist this is an everyday practice in Gaza.

Yet official reports and findings conceed there is no evidence to support the Israeli propaganda line. On the other hand there is plenty of eveidence that the IDF uses Palestinian Civilians as human shields.
The casualties are direct proof of the human shield theory.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
This is where the Israel and the IDF gets its "human shields" myth. It has never provided concrete proof of its claims, but insist this is an everyday practice in Gaza.

Yet official reports and findings conceed there is no evidence to support the Israeli propaganda line. On the other hand there is plenty of eveidence that the IDF uses Palestinian Civilians as human shields.
so when hamas launches rockets from a hospital rooftop, or sets up a bomb factory under a house full of kids, or digs tunnels from the basement of a tenement, they are just doing that because those are the only places they could perform those actions?

dont be retarded.

hamas hezzbollah, fatah, al aqssa brigade et al set up their military targets in close proximity to "civilians" for no other reason than to make the israelis think twice before an air strike and t create a large number of "victims" to parade in front of the international press.

if the jihadjis put their weapons installations, arms caches, training camps and bomb factories in the desert the israelis would blow them up with ease, and NOBODY would be able to argue that there was a "genocide"

the pallie "civilians" are just sheilds, tools and props to the jihadjis. if every last pallie has to die to win their "war" against the jews, hamas is more than willing to see that happen.

fatah and hezzbollah are slightly less eager to see pallie children dead in the streets to free them from jewish tyranny, but as long as a couple pallies survive, defeating the jews is worth hundreds of thousands of dead pallie non-combatants
 

MarWan

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A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

It was “one of the classic all-American cover-ups,” said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.

“Why would our government put Israel’s interests ahead of our own?” Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack.

Moorer, who has long held that the attack was a deliberate act, wants Congress to investigate.

Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.

Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.

The pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery.

Israel attacked the USS Liberty using UNMARKED AIRCRAFT. This is the single fact which proves Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel's story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war. Were that true, there would be no reason to attack a supposedly Egyptian ship with unmarked aircraft. The only possible reason to use unmarked aircraft to attack the ship is that Israel knew it was an American ship and intended to sink it, then to blame the attack on Egypt.

Moorer, who as top legal council to the official investigation is in a position to know, agrees that Israel intended to sink the USS Liberty and blame Egypt for it, thus dragging the United States into a war on Israel's behalf. This seems to be a common trick of Israel. Starting with the Lavon affair, through the USS Liberty, to the fake radio transmitter that tricked Reagan into attacking Libya, to potentially 9-11 itself, Israel's game is to frame Arabs and set them up as targets for the United States.

The official US investigation is discredited. And with it, every claim of innocence for Israel that relied on the official investigation as a source.

The real question facing the American people is why the US Government seems more concerned with protecting Israel after they are caught playing these dirty tricks, rather than doing something to convince Israel not to kill any more Americans.
"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." -- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html
 

Padawanbater2

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The casualties are direct proof of the human shield theory.

7 UN refugee camps hit after multiple warning to IDF by the UN says you're wrong. IDF is intentionally targeting civilians and leveling entire city blocks filled with innocent civilians; women and children

Netanyahu's strategy is to strike fear into the Palestinians to force them to submit

Either IDF is the most incompetent military in the world, or they're intentionally hitting targets known to have civilians in them
 

NLXSK1

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7 UN refugee camps hit after multiple warning to IDF by the UN says you're wrong. IDF is intentionally targeting civilians and leveling entire city blocks filled with innocent civilians; women and children

Netanyahu's strategy is to strike fear into the Palestinians to force them to submit

Either IDF is the most incompetent military in the world, or they're intentionally hitting targets known to have civilians in them
Wait, I thought the palestinians were not fighting. What would Israel get them to submit to if they were not fighting??

The Israeli's announced they would be hitting Gaza over 3 weeks ago. Why didnt these people leave again??

Congrats on buying into the pity party campaign happening under the arc of terrorist rockets...

I am getting so sick of the apologists.
 

Padawanbater2

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Wait, I thought the palestinians were not fighting. What would Israel get them to submit to if they were not fighting??

The Israeli's announced they would be hitting Gaza over 3 weeks ago. Why didnt these people leave again??
Hamas is fighting against IDF and the Palestinians civilians are suffering the overwhelming majority of the casualties

Israel and Egypt won't let them leave

You're the terrorist sympathizer. While I say both parties are wrong, you think Israel is right. Facing the numbers, only a monster would think that.
 

earnest_voice

Well-Known Member
so when hamas launches rockets from a hospital rooftop, or sets up a bomb factory under a house full of kids, or digs tunnels from the basement of a tenement, they are just doing that because those are the only places they could perform those actions?
If Israel doesn't like rockets, it can end the blockade and withdraw from Palestine immediately. I don't think the Palestinians can match the 3000 tonnes of ordinance Israel has dropped on Gaza in two weeks, the death toll Israel has amassed nor the 2,655 Palestinian homes Israel has destroyed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-mideast-gaza-reconstruction-idUSKBN0FU17O20140725

hamas hezzbollah, fatah, al aqssa brigade et al set up their military targets in close proximity to "civilians" for no other reason than to make the israelis think twice before an air strike and t create a large number of "victims" to parade in front of the international press.
So it's okay for the IDF to do but not its adversaries? The IDF' HQ - Camp Rabin is located in the middle of Tel Aviv. Stop with the double standards dumbass

if the jihadjis put their weapons installations, arms caches, training camps and bomb factories in the desert the israelis would blow them up with ease, and NOBODY would be able to argue that there was a "genocide"

the pallie "civilians" are just sheilds, tools and props to the jihadjis. if every last pallie has to die to win their "war" against the jews, hamas is more than willing to see that happen.

fatah and hezzbollah are slightly less eager to see pallie children dead in the streets to free them from jewish tyranny, but as long as a couple pallies survive, defeating the jews is worth hundreds of thousands of dead pallie non-combatants
Israel has no intention of committing to peace. It wants land. Their illegal settlements startups have grown over 130% last year when compared to 2012. http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/CBS-132-percent-increase-in-West-Bank-settler-housing-starts-333423

If Israel wants peace it can return to its 1967 borders and shut the fuck up. Ben Gurion outlined who the real terrorists are before the advent of the modern salafi jihadist that popped up in Egypt.

"During the assault we must be ready to strike the decisive blow; that is, either to destroy the towns or expel its inhabitants so our people can replace them."

Ben Gurion 1948
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
If Israel doesn't like rockets, it can end the blockade and withdraw from Palestine immediately. I don't think the Palestinians can match the 3000 tonnes of ordinance Israel has dropped on Gaza in two weeks, the death toll Israel has amassed nor the 2,655 Palestinian homes Israel has destroyed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-mideast-gaza-reconstruction-idUSKBN0FU17O20140725



So it's okay for the IDF to do but not its adversaries? The IDF' HQ - Camp Rabin is located in the middle of Tel Aviv. Stop with the double standards dumbass



Israel has no intention of committing to peace. It wants land. Their illegal settlements startups have grown over 130% last year when compared to 2012. http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/CBS-132-percent-increase-in-West-Bank-settler-housing-starts-333423

If Israel wants peace it can return to its 1967 borders and shut the fuck up. Ben Gurion outlined who the real terrorists are before the advent of the modern salafi jihadist that popped up in Egypt.

"During the assault we must be ready to strike the decisive blow; that is, either to destroy the towns or expel its inhabitants so our people can replace them."

Ben Gurion 1948
you are a giant bag of douche.

the IDF does not station their rocket batteries and artillery on hospital roofs, the IDF doesnt store their bombs and shit in neighborhoods, the IDF doesnt set up bomb factories under tenements, and you know damned well the pallies dont want israel to return to the pre-67 borders, they want israel pushed back to the pre-48 borders, and nothing else will satisfy them

if the jews simply surrender and commit mass suicide then the pallies will embrace "peace", not a moment before.
 

Nutes and Nugs

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you are a giant bag of douche.

the IDF does not station their rocket batteries and artillery on hospital roofs, the IDF doesnt store their bombs and shit in neighborhoods, the IDF doesnt set up bomb factories under tenements, and you know damned well the pallies dont want israel to return to the pre-67 borders, they want israel pushed back to the pre-48 borders, and nothing else will satisfy them

if the jews simply surrender and commit mass suicide then the pallies will embrace "peace", not a moment before.
Good point.
Ford or Chevy?
an some people believe in Dodge!
 

earnest_voice

Well-Known Member
you are a giant bag of douche.

the IDF does not station their rocket batteries and artillery on hospital roofs, the IDF doesnt store their bombs and shit in neighborhoods, the IDF doesnt set up bomb factories under tenements, and you know damned well the pallies dont want israel to return to the pre-67 borders, they want israel pushed back to the pre-48 borders, and nothing else will satisfy them

if the jews simply surrender and commit mass suicide then the pallies will embrace "peace", not a moment before.
Nice invocation of the holocaust dumbass. More lies to justify Israeli Terrorism parroting Ben Gurion a known liar and terrorist.

The phrase you seem to continually use albeit dance around - "push all the Jews into the sea, dead or alive" is just some bullshit that zionist fuckwits like you perpetuate daily. It didn't come from Nasser or Arafat nor can it be attributed to anyone but Ben Gurion.

Unlike the IDF stooges you cuckold, The Palestinians understand in the deepest recesses of their consciousness that they are a FREE people.

This is why rabid nuts like you oppose assimilation and liberalism.
 
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