LED light that covers a core 5x5 ? ........anyone know of models to look at

justugh

justugh

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hi

title basically saids it all

need a LED that has a core coverage of 5x5 area for maximum goodness in the plant ............i would like one light if not then a set that can daisy chain so controlling is easier

currently have a 1000w hid 150k lumen output (mad buds ) but the lower leaves yellow from lack of light and if i can reduce the heat poor ac can shut off for 10 mins now and then
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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The biggest issue of a single light is umoles at the perimeter tend to fall off rapidly

Check out Apache Tech

BML is coming out with a SPYDR 1000 that might do the trick

My SPYDR 600 has a max 3 x 3 actual footprint and covers 4 x 4

Since it can be collapsed down to ~20 x 36 you could get 2 and have incredible buds
 
justugh

justugh

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PetFlora said:
The biggest issue of a single light is umoles at the perimeter tend to fall off rapidly

Check out Apache Tech

BML is coming out with a SPYDR 1000 that might do the trick

My SPYDR 600 has a max 3 x 3 actual footprint and covers 4 x 4

Since it can be collapsed down to ~20 x 36 you could get 2 and have incredible buds
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do u know any that can be daisy chained together ...............i can live with 4 lights to get the coverage i need (power drawl and amps will be less then the 1000W)

i just do not want to try hooking up 4 timers and matching them or getting one of those timed power strips (had one the amount of power killed the timer in 2 weeks)
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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You can't go wrong with AT, GreenGenes has proven that, He's an exceptional grower. AT lights simply highlight his abilities:mrgreen:

I've had great results with my first BML SPYDR 600, but you should call BM to get the answer

As to timers, just plug a multi-strip into one timer
 
Bad Karma

Bad Karma

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justugh said:
do u know any that can be daisy chained together ...............i can live with 4 lights to get the coverage i need (power drawl and amps will be less then the 1000W)
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Area 51's RW-150 can be daisy chained together, up to six units. Four RW-150's will replace a 1000W and cover a 4x4 area. So if you pushed that number up to five RW's, you could light a 5x5, the way you're looking to. I would use the same pattern that you see on dice to set up the lights, one in the center, and with one in each corner, around it.
 
swagslayer420

swagslayer420

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justugh said:
hi

title basically saids it all

need a LED that has a core coverage of 5x5 area for maximum goodness in the plant ............i would like one light if not then a set that can daisy chain so controlling is easier

currently have a 1000w hid 150k lumen output (mad buds ) but the lower leaves yellow from lack of light and if i can reduce the heat poor ac can shut off for 10 mins now and then
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Parmaxpro.com claims to cover a 5x5 and runs for under $1500 and is 260w
764 Total LED Chips (Advanced Optics)
476 LED Chips - (6200k)
288 LED Chips - (660nm Far Red)
FEATURES:
-LED Total Input Watts: 260w
-CRI = 74
-Lumens = 23420
-Lm/W = 96.82
-Total Watts = 260
-S/P Ratio = 1.92
-48 inches long - 11 inches wide - Only 15 pounds
-Powder Coated White Linear High Bay Housing With 6063 Aluminum Insert
-Japanese Metal Core Board dissipates heat three times faster than industry standard
-LED Engines Operate At Very Low Thermal Temperatures
-Water Resistant Dow Coating on LED Engine
LAMP/GENERATOR:
-120v / 277v Universal Electronic Ballast (Default is 120v)
REPLACES:
-Metal Halide - 1000w
-High Pressure Sodium - 1000w
BURNING HOURS:
-Energy Savings -- Maintains 90% Lumen Output at 70,000 Hours 100,000 Rated Life (Hours)
LOW TEMPERATURE:
-Burns at 200 Degrees vs 900-1800 Degrees -- Less Nutrient & H2O Depletion due to Evaporation
GARDEN COVERAGE:
-5’ x 5’ grow area
PLUG AND GROW:
-Plugs into standard 120v or 240v plugin
- 15’ cord
3 Year Limited Warranty -- Engineered and Assembled in The USA
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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Their is NO 260 watt led fixture that will cover MJ in 5x5 flower area ATM. A mostly "white" 6200k panel at 96lm/watt isn't going to cut it IMO.

Also 660nm is Deep red NOT far red

how do they even consider an 11 inch wide 260 watt panel to cover a 5 ft width???? that's obnoxious

the AT 600/Spydr 1000/neosol ds 520 will blow this thing away on par readings
 
swagslayer420

swagslayer420

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PSUAGRO. said:
Their is NO 260 watt led fixture that will cover MJ in 5x5 flower area ATM. A mostly "white" 6200k panel at 96lm/watt isn't going to cut it IMO.

Also 660nm is Deep red NOT far red

how do they even consider an 11 inch wide 260 watt panel to cover a 5 ft width???? that's obnoxious

the AT 600/Spydr 1000/neosol ds 520 will blow this thing away on par readings
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When is BML coming out with Spydr 1000?
 
tenthirty

tenthirty

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PSUAGRO. said:
Their is NO 260 watt led fixture that will cover MJ in 5x5 flower area ATM. A mostly "white" 6200k panel at 96lm/watt isn't going to cut it IMO.

Also 660nm is Deep red NOT far red

how do they even consider an 11 inch wide 260 watt panel to cover a 5 ft width???? that's obnoxious

the AT 600/Spydr 1000/neosol ds 520 will blow this thing away on par readings
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The best you are going to do today is 12 Cree CXA3070 COBS running at 1400 ma. about 700 watts = 28 watts sq ft.

Read this:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-led-cree-cxa3070.789575/
 
Thecouchlock

Thecouchlock

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Bad Karma said:
Area 51's RW-150 can be daisy chained together, up to six units. Four RW-150's will replace a 1000W and cover a 4x4 area. So if you pushed that number up to five RW's, you could light a 5x5, the way you're looking to. I would use the same pattern that you see on dice to set up the lights, one in the center, and with one in each corner, around it.
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Your information is always off... you can get more than 4x4 with 4 rw-150s. Unless you set all your lights touching each other.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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swagslayer420 said:
Parmaxpro.com claims to cover a 5x5 and runs for under $1500 and is 260w
764 Total LED Chips (Advanced Optics)
476 LED Chips - (6200k)
288 LED Chips - (660nm Far Red)
FEATURES:
-LED Total Input Watts: 260w
-CRI = 74
-Lumens = 23420
-Lm/W = 96.82
-Total Watts = 260
-S/P Ratio = 1.92
-48 inches long - 11 inches wide - Only 15 pounds
-Powder Coated White Linear High Bay Housing With 6063 Aluminum Insert
-Japanese Metal Core Board dissipates heat three times faster than industry standard
-LED Engines Operate At Very Low Thermal Temperatures
-Water Resistant Dow Coating on LED Engine
LAMP/GENERATOR:
-120v / 277v Universal Electronic Ballast (Default is 120v)
REPLACES:
-Metal Halide - 1000w
-High Pressure Sodium - 1000w
BURNING HOURS:
-Energy Savings -- Maintains 90% Lumen Output at 70,000 Hours 100,000 Rated Life (Hours)
LOW TEMPERATURE:
-Burns at 200 Degrees vs 900-1800 Degrees -- Less Nutrient & H2O Depletion due to Evaporation
GARDEN COVERAGE:
-5’ x 5’ grow area
PLUG AND GROW:
-Plugs into standard 120v or 240v plugin
- 15’ cord
3 Year Limited Warranty -- Engineered and Assembled in The USA
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Long and skinny light like that would cover a 2 x 5, maybe, but not 5 x 5. 1000 umole at 8" isn't much. 260w won't replace a 1000w HID.
 
justugh

justugh

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ok ...........maybe this will help

this change over from HID to LED will allow me to go hydro (the water chiller will be more effective) allowing me to lower the cost of making the plants and reduce the price on what i need to make back to break even along with increase the over all amount of the intake

all ending with me giving a few grand a month to a school i know of so they can buy supplies along with other things to make the kiddies happy / enjoy school (they know where it comes from but they do not care becuase they need it ........i been given a few hundernt when i hvae it to spare but this will allow me to set up something more permit)

if i am blowing 2 grand on 1 light .........it got to cover the whole thing just becuase i refuse to spend more then that

at this point i have found 3 sets i can live with (i grow autos )
http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GL80X5LED-Spectrum-Growing/dp/B00KC6LT5C

the 400 watt are a 2.5x2.5 .......or the 700w are 3x3 with little overlap..............4 on a dice set up

http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Platinum-Series-11-band-Grow/dp/B00BW4BOZI/

can do 2 of those ........massive over kill

http://www.amazon.com/G8LED-Optimal-8-Band-Infrared-Ultraviolet/dp/B008ANH8O0/
and
http://www.amazon.com/G8LED-Watt-Flowering-BOOST-Light/dp/B005ZTJ980

the one in the center and 2 or maybe 4 for the edges

they are all have good and bad points ...........i am auto flowering so a full spec the whole way is nice the red boosters are just fillers lights for the edge
given they are all 50000 hours this buy gets going i can re do the system a 5th time once i got a larger space and larger funds
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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justugh

justugh

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did i read it yes

not all of it but the first page .............i thought about building something but no i know better after the last time

i tend to miss something or over do it and it cost me 3 times the amount it would of if i just had gotten it done ............
 
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