Northern Iraq falls to Al Qaeda, $400 million looted from central bank.

[ginwilly]

If I have stock options and then I exercised my stock option..did I not just buy and/or sell stock.

Technically you never had ownership.

Just google difference between.

 

[UncleBuck]

Right is right man.

Show your knowledge or go back to the kids table. Are options and stocks the same thing.

go ahead and convince us that you would be a good mediator with your obvious bias.

 

[UncleBuck]

Technically you never had ownership.

Just google difference between.

it doesn't matter what uncomfortable truths london posts that shows him to be right, you will find a way to assert that you buddy red is somehow "technically" right even though he is clearly not.

you've never met a racist or republican you wouldn't defend.

 

[Red1966]

Poor retarded guy. You can't exercises stock options WITHOUT dealing with stock. Cheney had stock after he took office. He has none now, but he did up until 2005. You can still talk politics in toke and talk.

I've bought options, the price the underlying stock went up, I sold the options at a profit. I never owned the stock. You have no inkling at all.

 

[londonfog]

Technically you never had ownership.

Just google difference between.

Technically my ass.. You can't sell something you don't have ownership of....He exercised his option and sold his stock..then donated the money and got a nice refund from the donation..
You sure you want to side with stupid

 

[ginwilly]

it doesn't matter what uncomfortable truths london posts that shows him to be right, you will find a way to assert that you buddy red is somehow "technically" right even though he is clearly not.

you've never met a racist or republican you wouldn't defend.

It's really neither of our business, but you are in yet another thread arguing as an expert about a subject you know nothing about.

What are options? Is it the same as owning stock? That's the argument London made. I wasn't defending Red dumbass, I was defending London because I'm confident what he meant.

 

[ginwilly]

Technically my ass.. You can't sell something you don't have ownership of....He exercised his option and sold his stock..then donated the money and got a nice refund from the donation..
You sure you want to side with stupid

Sigh, I'm trying to help you and you go all bucktard. Did you google?

 

[UncleBuck]

Technically my ass.. You can't sell something you don't have ownership of....He exercised his option and sold his stock..then donated the money and got a nice refund from the donation..
You sure you want to side with stupid

i tried to sell the house i'm renting but it didn't work.

 

[londonfog]

I've bought options, the price the underlying stock went up, I sold the options at a profit. I never owned the stock. You have no inkling at all.

Hey right
Now you just lying... You didn't sell the option, You exercise your option, in which case you can hold or sell your stocks.

 

[londonfog]

Sigh, I'm trying to help you and you go all bucktard. Did you google?

I don't need to google
You talking stupid trying to defend stupid
If you you have stock option at some point they will become stock unless you let it expire. So you have stock option and you do nothing with it..WTF. do you even know what you are talking about

 

[londonfog]

i tried to sell the house i'm renting but it didn't work.

I mean really who defends stupid.

 

[ginwilly]

I don't need to google
You talking stupid trying to defend stupid
If you you have stock option at some point they will become stock unless you let it expire. So you have stock option and you do nothing with it..WTF. do you even know what you are talking about

Wow...

Just google difference between the two and stop the madness. Calling stupid while refusing to learn is.. well, stupid.

 

[Red1966]

Red you said Cheney sold all his stock before he took office. When you have stock options you have the option to buy or sell stock at a set price before a set expiration date. Now had Cheney just let his stock option expire ..you would have been right. He would have just lost free money. He did not. He exercised his option and sold his stock. This was in 2005..very much after he took office. He then took the money and donated it to charity using the Katrina Emergency Tax Relief Act of 2005 which in turn gave him more money back from his charitable contribution had he waited until 2007

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/04/18/203066/-Cheney-s-shady-charitable-contributions-net-2-million-refund

You have yet to demonstrate that he did not sell his stock. He could have donated the options, not the stock, and still gotten the deductions. He could have sold the options themselves, without ever exercising them. If he had exercised his option, he would have BOUGHT stock, not sold it. You seem to imply that donating to charity is evil. You are trying to alter my statement that he sold his stock before taking office to avoid honoring your bet. To win the bet, you must prove he did not sell his STOCK before taking office. Buying stock years afterwards or owning options, if it happened, doesn't disprove my statement that he sold his STOCK before taking office. You have tried to lay an elaborate trap to silence those who debunk your libtard fallacies, but it blew up in your face. You are not nearly as smart as you think you are. And you are without honor.

 

[londonfog]

Wow...

Just google difference between the two and stop the madness. Calling stupid while refusing to learn is.. well, stupid.

I know the difference. What you fail to realize is what happens after you exercise your option.!!!!!

 

[Red1966]

I don't need to google
You talking stupid trying to defend stupid
If you you have stock option at some point they will become stock unless you let it expire. So you have stock option and you do nothing with it..WTF. do you even know what you are talking about

You can sell options, you don't need to exercise them. You're making a fool of yourself.

 

[londonfog]

You have yet to demonstrate that he did not sell his stock. He could have donated the options, not the stock, and still gotten the deductions. He could have sold the options themselves, without ever exercising them. If he had exercised his option, he would have BOUGHT stock, not sold it. You seem to imply that donating to charity is evil. You are trying to alter my statement that he sold his stock before taking office to avoid honoring your bet. To win the bet, you must prove he did not sell his STOCK before taking office. Buying stock years afterwards or owning options, if it happened, doesn't disprove my statement that he sold his STOCK before taking office. You have tried to lay an elaborate trap to silence those who debunk your libtard fallacies, but it blew up in your face. You are not nearly as smart as you think you are. And you are without honor.

Is your argument now is that he donated his options ???

 

[ginwilly]

I know the difference. What you fail to realize is what happens after you exercise your option.!!!!!

You can trade options without ever having ownership of the underlying stock.

Is this statement true or false?

 

[londonfog]

You can sell options, you don't need to exercise them. You're making a fool of yourself.

Stock options are offered by employers as incentives to employees...you idiot

 

[UncleBuck]

cheney only had 433000 or so shares of stock.

that's kinda like 0.

 

[londonfog]

You can trade options without ever having ownership of the underlying stock.

Is this statement true or false?

Yes you can trade option without ever having ownership..Not the case with Cheney. Do you wish to bet why.