MOAB (Mother of all blooms) VS Nectar For The Gods!!!

urban1026835 said:
hey dank I feed my ladies with the lights on using the Khaos with no probs but its only 77 in there and the cooltube is not much hotter. Not that I recommend it just what I do..
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I fed the khaos with lights on at 79° but I think my fan blows off the water to quickly. I font know what to expect I've never foliar fed before. Any tips would be appreciated.
 
I hear that... Well main reason why I don't is cause the water sits on the leaves and its like holding a magnifying glass on um (leaves) with he lights on & it will cause spots on the plants leaves. Thats why allot of growers have questions, and or you see allot of them posting threads "spots on my leaves what happened". lol More then likely its due to foliage feeding. Most cases.
urban1026835 said:
hey dank I feed my ladies with the lights on using the Khaos with no probs but its only 77 in there and the cooltube is not much hotter. Not that I recommend it just what I do..
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You gotta watch that FF shit. One being is because if you'll take a look at the ingredients they don't put if any its not much (cal-mag) in any of their products. I found myself having to add cal-mag all the time when I used the FF lineup. ;) so just keep an eye on that.
roseypeach said:
My garden loved the Fox Farms...can't wait to see the results of this!
There's a new thread about it now, https://www.rollitup.org/t/what-happened-to-this-place.827455/ ;) lol
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~Dankster~420 said:
You gotta watch that FF shit. One being is because if you'll take a look at the ingredients they don't put if any its not much (cal-mag) in any of their products. I found myself having to add cal-mag all the time when I used the FF lineup. ;) so just keep an eye on that.
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I didn't have too much of any issues when I was using it before but I can def see the cal mag issue. I never had the rich dark green foliage that most of you guys usually have with GO ;)
 
urban1026835 said:
haha IM an ass wipe, and a procrastonator but still here still yours. fyi you cannot ship liquids in a priority mail box so gotta brown box it eventually.
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oh its you...BWAHAHAHAAA!!! lol just givin you a lil hell man, all in fun. You can ship them in bubble envelopes :mrgreen: that's how I got my FF sample bottles off E-bay the last couple years ;) the seller tapes the lid shut (too good IMO) and throws em in the bubble.
 
~Dankster~420 said:
When I feed that round I used like said the Flora lineup, also the flora +, and the P3. That was it. OH wait, molasses to. ;-) I started off with a lower ppm reading then just gradually worked them up. I had "ok" results, meaning it could have been better. lol Of course I am sure you'll soon come to learn I am "always" searching for that just right nutrients lineup. I still have a few lineup's I have yet to use but have them sitting in the corner. lol Like the NFTG I have yet to use any of the flowering nutes. I only used the veg 1 round. So I have been wanting to give those a shot, and will be using those this grow. 1 HSH will be getting the NFTG & the other will be getting dosed with the MOAB + GH. I had thought of doing GO lineup + MOAB but changed my mind. ;)
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So I'm flipping 12/12 today I'm running P3 boogie brew vegan tea and nftg sample pack. I'm not sure which of the nftg products I should use in the brew to feed the biology though, any suggestions.
 
For 12 dollars, you could get many times the amount of KH2PO4 (monopotassium phosphate).

What's the point?

It's the nutrient companies convincing you all this is rocket science. MOAB = KH2PO4. The product is identical to the chemical because it's about 99% that chemical... They are interchangeable as they are the same thing.

http://www.cropking.com/HydroponicS...64_268&zenid=f421709a9a6e1dbddb08123bdc7f9053

1 Pound for 3.50.

Don't be fools.

The nutrient companies are tricking you.

YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO TAKE YOUR SAMPLES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE STEALING A HANDFUL OF MCDONALDS SALT PACKETS!

urban1026835 said:
MOAB sample pack is 12$ or was and is on their website here and just checked still 12$

All good products and the root gel silica and N.U.T.S. alone are worthy of the 12$

http://madfarmerproducts.com/samples/
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And you wouldn't have to worry about liquids being shipped to you if you got raw salts. I just can't believe other people think what I do is overly complicated. You're all insane.

Some company renames a common agricultural salt to "mad scientist mother of all blooms" (are you serious?) and you guys act like they just invented sliced bread, or the modern operating system. Consumer confidence must be at an all time high, because you people will buy anything.
 
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I agree. But however 4 the 12$ you dont get all the other goodies that wouldnt come with just purchasing (KH2PO4 (monopotassium phosphate). Such as the clone gel they send, + all the other goodies. lol. Hell its 12$. And considering everything you get... Sure seems like a damn good deal 2 me. lol
churchhaze said:
For 12 dollars, you could get many times the amount of KH2PO4 (monopotassium phosphate).

What's the point?

It's the nutrient companies convincing you all this is rocket science. MOAB = KH2PO4. The product is identical to the chemical because it's about 99% that chemical... They are interchangeable as they are the same thing.

http://www.cropking.com/HydroponicS...64_268&zenid=f421709a9a6e1dbddb08123bdc7f9053

1 Pound for 3.50.

Don't be fools.

The nutrient companies are tricking you.

YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO TAKE YOUR SAMPLES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE STEALING A HANDFUL OF MCDONALDS SALT PACKETS!
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Oh come on. You know your the culprit behind all those stealing's of Mcdonalds packs of salt, and ketchup. lol j/k with you. ;)
churchhaze said:
For 12 dollars, you could get many times the amount of KH2PO4 (monopotassium phosphate).

What's the point?

It's the nutrient companies convincing you all this is rocket science. MOAB = KH2PO4. The product is identical to the chemical because it's about 99% that chemical... They are interchangeable as they are the same thing.

http://www.cropking.com/HydroponicS...64_268&zenid=f421709a9a6e1dbddb08123bdc7f9053

1 Pound for 3.50.

Don't be fools.

The nutrient companies are tricking you.

YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO TAKE YOUR SAMPLES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE STEALING A HANDFUL OF MCDONALDS SALT PACKETS!
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I dont really understand you ranting bro. I myself was merely testing their product out to prove it does what they "claim". lol it will be ok. I didnt really buy anything. I paid 4 the S& H.
churchhaze said:
And you wouldn't have to worry about liquids being shipped to you if you got raw salts. I just can't believe other people think what I do is overly complicated. You're all insane.

Some company renames a common agricultural salt to "mad scientist mother of all blooms" (are you serious?) and you guys act like they just invented sliced bread, or the modern operating system. Consumer confidence must be at an all time high, because you people will buy anything.
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When the dust settles church, its not your money being spent. You've said your piece and its appreciated, but to keep saying the same thing over again to insult anybody that uses the product, well, it serves nobody. You're diluting your own message with negativity.

We are all fully aware where you stand on the product. Thanks, for your opinion, if you don't care to contribute anything else, just move on.
 
What's the point of this forum anyway if all the "advice" is to support the sponsors? Why isn't the nutrients section about nutrients? Almost every single thread here is about "Which line of nutrients is better?". Seriously? What an annoying question. What's the point of switching from GH to AN or canna? Who cares? It's hardly a question about which nutrients they should use and more a question of what "products" and "brands" they like to use. It gets really messy because everyone likes to use their own line, then has to specifically seek out other people using the exact same line with the exact same products. It would be like asking if anyone has used Bayer, and people saying they've only had aspirin.

A lot of people don't worry about whether they get coke or pepsi, yet growers swear their plants can tell the difference, and are picky too! literally, people ask which sweeteners are the best.

What would really help people out is a section completely devoted to dry salts. The only reason it's so confusing to people is there is no sticky threads or sections on it. There's no way I'll buy the argument that combinations of 3 bottles of some marketing name combined in the just right ratio with whatever PK booster, Cal-mag+, etc is simpler than using real salts, where each brand has the same empirical formula.

How else can I get my message across? Plants eat the chemicals, not the brands.

You know it's really hard to suppress the negativity with all the crap I get for trying to help. I don't come with a way to do hydro, I come with THE way. There is only one way, and it's what the nutrient companies sell you at ridiculous markup.
 
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Looking at MOAB NPK 0-52-32 NPK LOL that straight up out of the bag Mono Potassium Phosphate. I sell that at my store as a bloom booster, package it down and sell it. I know some people hate to hear this but MKP is the major part of 99% of bloom boosters out there some of them are straight MKP with food coloring. This is coming from a guy who owns a hydro store so I why would I tell people that.
 
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