The forbidden TRUTH

ghostdriver

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No I don't think I have ever read the "Book of Giants" found with the dead sea scrolls you say? I will research it, to see if I can answer if it is authentic or not, it's not that hard to do one, just need to see if it corresponds with the HOLY BIBLE and does not contradict its self. Thanks for asking a genuine question, and not being uncommunicative like the rest who decide to post of anger.
 

ghostdriver

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If any parts were in the dead sea scrolls there is a high chance I have read it, how long is it? Do you have a link of where one can read it?
 

Ceepea

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LOL you realize people can read what you have posted, about I have explained free will to you countless times Ceepea,
And no my profile doesn't say this is fake LOL Anyone who can read has noticed that Mr. Durden has asked no questions, and has done nothing but type ignorant insults, I don't care if you guys write something completely ignorant, or if you get the last post in after I sign off. The people who are actually reading this know the truth LOL and no matter how much you deny or hate that fact all one must do is read this thread from start to beginning. Yeah. I have seen demons man, shadow people, glowing red balls hovering in the sky, I have seen them with other witnesses all kinds of supernatural things, but what leaves me in real awe is when the ALL MIGHTY GOD
communicates with me.
You don't understand what ignorant means. lol

If you think you've seen angels and demons you need medical attention, because you're delusional.
 

ghostdriver

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The "Book OF Giants" is just a few fragments that has no order, with non complete sentences filled in by whoever decides too, it's a classic example of what taking the truth and messing with it will do, to keep the real truth secret. Yes, those fragments are true, but without complete sentences and just one word here, one word there, the Illuminati for lack of a better word, took that opportunity to go in add fake things, present it all out of order, to hide the truth, I just read http://www.gnosis.org/library/dss/dss_book_of_giants.htmn if one has read the BOOK OF ENOCH and the HOLY BIBLE you would see how wrong it is, first notice that there is more talk from the anonymous author assuming he knows, then there is of the fragments from dead sea scrolls, also notice how he says what's going on between paragraph and paragraph like he knows. Without complete sentences and pretext.
 

ghostdriver

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Okay ceepea lol,
Still here and saying nothing but insults I see. I don't need medical attention because I worship GOD LOL save your insults they are not forthcoming.
Also TODAY IS THE SABBATH! praise the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY and HIS SON LORD JESUS CHRIST! A perfect day to read HOLY SCRIPTURE! Smoke that good herb RIU members and enjoy it!
 

Skuxx

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I don't see why you're pushing the book of enoch so much. There are a lot of texts not part of the bible.... They can only make a book so long you know. Plus it doesn't do much good if you don't know how to read other biblical texts.

Why do you want people to read Ezekiel in particular? Explain in your words what Ezekiel meant by the wheel within a wheel analogy, and what he meant by the living creatures he saw, and how he described them etc... Just explain what some of the symbolism represents.

Also, in your words, what does being born again mean? What's the "second death" about???

What's the significance of passover? Last supper? The crucifixion? The resurrection?

Have you read other sacred books or text? If so, what? Have you studied the history, source, and origination of every writing you read? Study the original languages, people, and culture of these writings?
 
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Ceepea

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Okay ceepea lol,
Still here and saying nothing but insults I see. I don't need medical attention because I worship GOD LOL save your insults they are not forthcoming.
Also TODAY IS THE SABBATH! praise the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY and HIS SON LORD JESUS CHRIST! A perfect day to read HOLY SCRIPTURE! Smoke that good herb RIU members and enjoy it!
Next time you need medical attention why don't you pray instead of going to the Dr.? LOL

The only shame would be if your idiotic beliefs harm someone else....

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/04/24/christian-couple-kills-their-second-child-with-prayer/
 

Ceepea

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I've said lots, you've ignored it, spouted more inane scripture bullshit without adressing anything I've said, and now you continue writing like you've won the debate.

You're sad. lol
 

tyler.durden

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LOL you realize people can read what you have posted, about I have explained free will to you countless times Ceepea,
You haven't explained it at all, you've only show that you do not understand it

And no my profile doesn't say this is fake LOL Anyone who can read has noticed that Mr. Durden has asked no questions, and has done nothing but type ignorant insults. I don't care if you guys write something completely ignorant, or if you get the last post in after I sign off. The people who are actually reading this know the truth LOL and no matter how much you deny or hate that fact all one must do is read this thread from start to beginning. Yeah. I have seen demons man, shadow people, glowing red balls hovering in the sky, I have seen them with other witnesses all kinds of supernatural things, but what leaves me in real awe is when the ALL MIGHTY GOD
communicates with me.
I haven't asked any questions? Now all can see your very poor cognitive abilities, and how dishonest you are. I went back over the entire thread, and chose questions I've asked from each post. I've kept some paragraphs together to keep the questions in context . They're all below in blue, how does that foot taste, deceitful one?



How do we know that the texts you are referring to are any more credible than holy texts from other religions?


What facts have you given? That there's books of the bible that didn't make the final cut?


Ever hear this saying? 'There's something about that guy I just can't stand about me...'


No one seems to be interested in your personal experiences with god, why would they be?


This kind of arrogance is ridiculous. Do you know how large the known universe is? I'll bet you have no idea. To suggest that the entire cosmos, so grand that mankind could never reach most of it before the universe ends, was all made for one species of mammal on one tiny planet in one of billions of billions of galaxies??? No thinking person could hold such a infantile belief...


I've had several thoughtful posts throughout your thread that continue to be thoroughly ignored. It seems you are the one ignoring the points in others' posts, It seems your primary motivation here is to teach, but you have not demonstrated any qualifications for doing so. The fact that you don't seem to have even an elementary school science education suggests you should learn the basics of reality before you attempt to teach it. Also, this is a public forum, expect your ideas to be challenged. If they cannot withstand questioning and criticism, perhaps you should re-examine your ideas and/or your ability to teach...

Were you home-schooled?


You couldn't be referring to evolution by natural selection, could you? That would discredit you to the point of a living joke. There is mountains of evidence for evolution from many diverse fields. Do you understand evolution by natural selection?


Wow, your 5th grade education is showing. There are many things we can't disprove: werewolves, smurfs, transformers, gremlins, fairies, gnomes, superman, etc.. Just because we cannot disprove something does not make its existence likely. Perhaps the most important fallacy to learn is The Burden of Proof. It basically states that the one making the positive claim, as in one who says something does exist, has the burden of proving it. There are many whacky claims in this world, it isn't up to each one of us to disprove them all, it's up to the person making said claim to prove it. How did you get this far in life not knowing these basic concepts???




Have you even peeked at the list of logical fallacies I posted for you? Of course not, and why? Because you are not interested in improving your thinking or learning about reality, you are convinced and content with your comic book ideas regardless of their credibility. There is no empirical evidence for any of the things you posted above, so why would any adults be interested? Notice how no one seems interested in supporting your thread, even the theists. It seems you are wasting your time. Why not start threads on sites that have members with a similar mind set as yourself that share your unfounded beliefs? You don't seem to be faring very well here in regards to learning or teaching...



Almost nothing I've posted has been addressed, so why pretend you are going to start addressing them now?
 

Ceepea

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LOL NO YOU HAVEN'T

You have yet to refute this; (Other than saying "NUH UH, NO IT'S NOT BECAUSE I SAY SO!!")

I will explain how having 100% accurate predictions of the future requires that the person who knows the future, is also controlling the future.

First, let's discuss what knowing is. By this, I mean certainty.

My position is this; it's impossible to know something unless you are a) omniscient, and b) omnipotent.

For example, many people use the analogy, "I know the sun will rise in the morning, and I don't control it". This is actually a false statement. You don't know the sun will rise, you're just assuming it will because it has every other day. It could explode overnight, or burn out, or disappear for all we know. The only way to know with 100% certainty that sun will rise, is if you control every variable associated with it rising. You would need the ability to foresee any problems with making the sun rise, before they happened, and be able to change laws of physics or reality as you see fit to ensure that the sun rise did in fact occur, e.g you need to be omnipotent.

Now, I've logically shown the only way to know something is going to happen is to be an omniscient and omnipotent being who is actively making the specific event occur. Anything other than direct manipulation from the being could result in a different outcome. If a different outcome is possible, then certainty is not possible. That's to say; if there's two possibilities, A) and B) you can't be certain of A) is there is any possibility B) will happen. That's what certainty is, it means nothing can happen but the event that is certain to happen.

Let's discuss Free will;

Free will is the ideology that people can make their own decisions, which logically points to a reality where fated event don't happen. That's to say, it's not possible for free will to exist if the outcome of events are already decided.

If free will exists, and your decision is truly yours, no being can know what you're going to do. As with the previous explanation, in order to know something with 100% certainty, you need to control all variables that could potentially stop that even from happening. If you are being controlled or guided, your decisions are not your own, and free will is merely an illusion.
 

ghostdriver

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Durden some questions! I have already given the answers but I will gladly repeat without the old copy n paste, now there was two actual questions in your tirade
1. Proof the HOLY BIBLE is right others isnt
2. Proof the Book of Enoch was real but removed by the catholic church
You know what I will count the why isn't anyone responding thing as a legit questions so 3! three serious questions.
1. The Holy BIBLE is the only book that does not ever contradict it's self, all these other religions revolve around warping the Old Testament with major contradictions as a result. Also Jesus fulfilled every prophecy mentioned in the Old testament of the coming messiah.
Some of the things that contradicts it's self is that David in the Old testament states (which Jewish people believe) said (A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. referring to Christ.
Also the whole chapter about GOD asking Abraham so sacrifice his only son, is because he just wanted to show us that Abraham loved GOD and trusted GOD more then anything and even though GOD didn't make Abraham go through with it, it is to show us that he would. This is why GOD blessed his descendants and GOD actually sacrifice his son for the world. That's a couple for the Jewish religion. The muslim religion believes GOD has a brother and killing people is okay, need I say more??
The catholics claim they follow the HOLY BIBLE but worship saints and think a man can forgive sin named the pope, who they worship. The HOLY BIBLE says this is blaspheme.
2. Proof The Book Of Enoch is real- In the HOLY BIBLE read Genesis and JUDE. It's very soon in Genesis and it mentions how God took Enoch, also there are two Enochs. The Scribe Of Righteousness is mentioned after the first and is in the line of King David. Jude is a chapter by it's self in the HOLY BIBLE read it, it's about a page and will verify The Book Of Enoch.
3. No one replying but heathens- I have sent out many links referring to this thread which has contributed to the large numbers of views, many I assume are not members of RIU so cannot comment. Also there is a very, very small number of people who worship GOD and His Son Lord Christ.
 

Ceepea

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Durden some questions! I have already given the answers but I will gladly repeat without the old copy n paste, now there was two actual questions in your tirade
1. Proof the HOLY BIBLE is right others isnt
2. Proof the Book of Enoch was real but removed by the catholic church
You know what I will count the why isn't anyone responding thing as a legit questions so 3! three serious questions.
1. The Holy BIBLE is the only book that does not ever contradict it's self, all these other religions revolve around warping the Old Testament with major contradictions as a result. Also Jesus fulfilled every prophecy mentioned in the Old testament of the coming messiah.
Some of the things that contradicts it's self is that David in the Old testament states (which Jewish people believe) said (A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. referring to Christ.
Also the whole chapter about GOD asking Abraham so sacrifice his only son, is because he just wanted to show us that Abraham loved GOD and trusted GOD more then anything and even though GOD didn't make Abraham go through with it, it is to show us that he would. This is why GOD blessed his descendants and GOD actually sacrifice his son for the world. That's a couple for the Jewish religion. The muslim religion believes GOD has a brother and killing people is okay, need I say more??
The catholics claim they follow the HOLY BIBLE but worship saints and think a man can forgive sin named the pope, who they worship. The HOLY BIBLE says this is blaspheme.
2. Proof The Book Of Enoch is real- In the HOLY BIBLE read Genesis and JUDE. It's very soon in Genesis and it mentions how God took Enoch, also there are two Enochs. The Scribe Of Righteousness is mentioned after the first and is in the line of King David. Jude is a chapter by it's self in the HOLY BIBLE read it, it's about a page and will verify The Book Of Enoch.
3. No one replying but heathens- I have sent out many links referring to this thread which has contributed to the large numbers of views, many I assume are not members of RIU so cannot comment. Also there is a very, very small number of people who worship GOD and His Son Lord Christ.

It's cute, he thinks those are answers.
 

ghostdriver

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I don't see why you're pushing the book of enoch so much. There are a lot of texts not part of the bible.... They can only make a book so long you know. Plus it doesn't do much good if you don't know how to read other biblical texts.

Why do you want people to read Ezekiel in particular? Explain in your words what Ezekiel meant by the wheel within a wheel analogy, and what he meant by the living creatures he saw, and how he described them etc... Just explain what some of the symbolism represents.

Also, in your words, what does being born again mean? What's the "second death" about???

What's the significance of passover? Last supper? The crucifixion? The resurrection?

Have you read other sacred books or text? If so, what? Have you studied the history, source, and origination of every writing you read? Study the original languages, people, and culture of these writings?

HELLO! and welcome to my thread! you have some questions! lets see if I can help answer them.
1. Why read Ezekiel- I mentioned this because someone I think "penofreadywriter" made a post implying no one had ever seen GOD in person, just in dreams or something. There are many times when GOD communicates with angels but also with people directly. Ezekiel is one of those times.
2. I am in awe of the description that Ezekiel saw, i'm not sure about what he meant by wheel within a wheel. But we must try to understand verbatim. A wheel, within a wheel. Like rims possibly? And those creatures was what GOD was riding while sitting on his thrones. It had many heads, (for those who haven't read the creature also had wings and was flying)
3. Born again- Being born again is when you decide in your soul to give up all of ones evil desires and repent, and worship GOD, JESUS CHRIST in truth. You will receive the HOLY SPIRIT and forever be changed. Because you are born again. Now this isn't as easy as it sounds it took me countless times of failure and repentance and broken oaths to GOD to achieve being born again. The battle is more worth it then I could ever describe. Which is why I made this post to spread the truth.
4.Passover- This is the celebration of how GOD freed the slaves of Israel, they had a meal and put blood on the door so the "destroyer" (something that GOD made that destroys) would pass over there house and not the house of the Egyptians. The Egyptians owned slaves and were Pagans after many many many miracles that Mosses showed Pharaoh and the Egyptians they wouldn't let them go. Also this is a lesson to parents if your not raising your children to love GOD and setting forth a good example you are destroying your children.
5.Last supper- The last supper is the dinner Jesus Christ had with the apostles, Jesus always knew he was here to be tortured and killed for the sins of man, Jesus Christ was alive in heaven before he came to Earth, I know this because he mentions how he has met Abraham in chapter John, and in The Book Of Enoch, Enoch sees Jesus Christ. But back to the supper, Jesus again tells them that he must die for them to live by giving examples in the dinner with wine and blood instead of being direct like in previous passages. He also tell's Thomas Judas is the one who betrays Him.
6. Crucifixion- This is when the blood of the livestock could no longer save all the sin in the world, and GOD being good, who no one else is, saved all those who seek repentance not worthy of salvation by the blood of His own perfect sinless Son Holy Lord Jesus Christ who he loves.
7. Second death- This is when one dies in sin without repentance, meets GOD the Judge and does not inherit the kingdom of heaven. And goes to Hell forever and ever, never to be removed. This is the second death.
8. Other Text- I have done research into many texts, and the history of such in my quest for wisdom. The only other BOOK that I consider HOLY TEXT would be the Book of Solomon, No contradictions fits perfectly, explains how people in the HOLY BIBLE know of this demon called "Beelzebub" as prince of demons, some people believe this is another name for Satan I disagree. The HOLY BIBLE also mentions Solomon many many times and has many passages that that he wrote like proverbs.
Oops almost forgot one
9. Resurrection- Christ rose from the dead on the third day, Now I know the third day is important because of Jonah the three days in a great fish (that GOD made to swallow him but keep him alive, not a whale) But I'm drawing a blank right now I will respond another time with why the three days was important. Well i'm glad to answer real questions hope you enjoyed reading.
 
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Ceepea

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Also it;s the only book that allows you to communicate with GOD with vivid instructions that work, but I have said that already in this thread many times and everyone refuses to try
Lots of people talk to god, but if god talks back you go the insane asylum.
 

ghostdriver

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Lots of people talk to god, but if god talks back you go the insane asylum.
No sir, GOD talks to me by revealing things to me, and with signs of awesome power and blessings. Glory to GOD They Key to happiness is a relationship with GOD, and the key to that has been made through GOD's sacrifice of HIS Son. Which Lord Christ willing laid down. Jesus Christ knows his people, and his people know him.
 

ghostdriver

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Glory to GOD that I may be a light in the darkness, and persecuted for the word of GOD! Glory to GOD and my Lord Jesus Christ forever and ever!
 
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