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schuylaar said:
so you're in the bay area?:lol:..i have a friend (in the bay area) i'd like you to invite him to lunch..his name is beenthere he'll be easy to spot; he's the one with the "short stack" of pancakes:wink:
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I did not know one could use pancakes as a shot stack. I will so note.
 
Dr Kynes said:
the government doesnt differentiate between GDP growth from financial maneuvers and actual productive work.
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Provide evidence to support this. Pets dot com and enron aren't evidence

How bout that supreme court case in 1979 that gave corporations the right to vote with their money? That had nothing to do with it?
 
UncleBuck said:
the fact remains that it is all racist tripe, as are the people like you who try to sell it in the least offensive package possible.

thanks in advance, fatty.

and don't forget to tuck your mother in tonight.
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That's really all you have in your arsenal isn't it?
Nice defense mechanism for a fail, its very transparent for all to see.
 
jahbrudda said:
Everyone is a sock puppet and they are out to get you.
[video=youtube;hnzHtm1jhL4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4[/video]
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no asshat..you gave yourself away by the way you spell my name.

i'm not the one who was banned and has to resort to sock puppetry because you have an unusually disturbing fascination with bucky.
 
Well, you mean because you get golf balls from watermelons? Ah...I get it....I don't get it. :) Never mind.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
Provide evidence to support this. Pets dot com and enron aren't evidence

How bout that supreme court case in 1979 that gave corporations the right to vote with their money? That had nothing to do with it?
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you want me to PROVE the government bases GDP on every dollar that changes hands regardless of whether it actually came from productive work or from financial sleight of hand?

find a measure of GDP, import/export numbers, or any economic indicator that doesnt include "services", including government services, (yes, unemployment and welfare increase GDP too) you will not find shit.

economists dont give a damn if you make your money running a ponzi scheme or building baby hospitals, they just count money in motion, how it moves is irrelevant.
 
If golf isn't racist then why did Tiger get a basketball bounced off his face? Why are there all these Freudian slips, about Lynching, and Fried Chicken, etc?

It is all racist except watermelon. I have et a many a woddi-miluns and I am not a racist. Not eating watermelon makes you a racist, I think.
 
Doer said:
If golf isn't racist then why did Tiger get a basketball bounced off his face? Why are there all these Freudian slips, about Lynching, and Fried Chicken, etc?

It is all racist except watermelon. I have et a many a woddi-miluns and I am not a racist. Not eating watermelon makes you a racist, I think.
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[video=youtube;2-eitsutpOc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-eitsutpOc[/video]
 
Dr Kynes said:
too bad that chart and all the others just like it dont differentiate between Capital Moneyfingering and ACTUAL PRODUCTIVE WORK.

thats why profits are up in the financial sector, but flat in real productive sectors of the economy.
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Dr Kynes said:
you want me to PROVE the government bases GDP on every dollar that changes hands regardless of whether it actually came from productive work or from financial sleight of hand?

find a measure of GDP, import/export numbers, or any economic indicator that doesnt include "services", including government services, (yes, unemployment and welfare increase GDP too) you will not find shit.

economists dont give a damn if you make your money running a ponzi scheme or building baby hospitals, they just count money in motion, how it moves is irrelevant.
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That's what you said, why do you think you can just say something without showing evidence to support it and expect people to believe it?

You say all the gains made are in the financial sector with people just moving money around and not actually producing anything and expect me to accept that as justification for why all the gains in income have gone to the top 20% since 1979. None of the workers have made shit, it's all just the big shots at the top making all the important decisions and earning their shareholders more money that should be rewarded. Sorry, but no, that's bullshit. I'd think that was a bullshit excuse even if I believed you and that was the case.

The fact is a disproportionate amount of wealth has gone to the upper class because our politicians that make the rules have been bought off by corporations. Wealthy people run corporations, they finance political campaigns, politicians vote according to their interests and this is how the game works.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
That's what you said, why do you think you can just say something without showing evidence to support it and expect people to believe it?

You say all the gains made are in the financial sector with people just moving money around and not actually producing anything and expect me to accept that as justification for why all the gains in income have gone to the top 20% since 1979. None of the workers have made shit, it's all just the big shots at the top making all the important decisions and earning their shareholders more money that should be rewarded. Sorry, but no, that's bullshit. I'd think that was a bullshit excuse even if I believed you and that was the case.

The fact is a disproportionate amount of wealth has gone to the upper class because our politicians that make the rules have been bought off by corporations. Wealthy people run corporations, they finance political campaigns, politicians vote according to their interests and this is how the game works.
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and you cannot prove that claim either

having money MAKES MORE MONEY

having money does NOT cause productive work.

if your only yardsticks for the economy are based on money in motion (which is all that economists use) you CANNOT differentiate between a guy who owns a silver mine or a shoe factory and a guy who runs a casino or a bank.

dollars look the same whether they come from sweat or shenanigans.

DEAL WITH IT
 
Dr Kynes said:
and you cannot prove that claim either
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I already have

Meanwhile you claim all the capital gains made since 1979 skyrocketed to the top tier because it all happened in the financial sector, and nothing was actually produced.. Websites and billion dollar industries today weren't real products, just imaginary I guess.. That whole tech industry was just all made up.. No products coming from them..

Really, guy?
 
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