Why do ALL the LED grows look so lame compared to HID?

Jbone77 said:
When did I say all strains yield 4 ozs? I said 4 oz plants are easy with a 600 or 1000 watt hid. 2 different things. If you cant pull 4 oz plants from a 1000 watt hid you shouldnt be growing
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in my thread of your post that got erased and in the thread that got locked... when i said genetics determines yield. you were adamant to prove that wrong and you failed.
 
hyroot said:
uuhhh have you ever grown before... more noob logic


do that with dr. grinspoon. I guarantee you won't get more than 2 zips between 4 plants. oir an old school ibl master kush. at most you will get 1-1.5 zips per plant. jbone evensaid all you need is indica doms. then the strains he uiuses are all sativa doms lol

its a weel known fact that staivas out yield indicas.
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ya right...lol.......... I could do it w bag seed.........
 
SnapsProvolone said:
I don't get the point of this thread. Some like LED lighting and some don't. What's the big deal? Use what you like.

That said I find LED technology fascinating, and I find HPS lighting to be the best use of my watts. That could change in time, but we are not there yet. When we are there with LED then the dispensaries will be first to embrace this.
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The argument is simple, you get led guys like hyroot calling names and refuses to show a single grow where led beats a 600 or 1000 watt hid with the same veg time. If he wouldnt call names and just say that leds work great there would be no argument. When someone wants to argue and call names im game
 
hyroot said:
in my thread of your post that got erased and in the thread that got locked... when i said genetics determines yield. you were adamant to prove that wrong and you failed.
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Genetics dont determine yield, genetics determine possible yield, blueberry in a good environment will out yield big bud in a shit environment but big bud in a good environment will destroy blueberry in an identical environment because genetics determine possible yield.
 
Jbone77 said:
The argument is simple, you get led guys like hyroot calling names and refuses to show a single grow where led beats a 600 or 1000 watt hid with the same veg time. If he wouldnt call names and just say that leds work great there would be no argument. When someone wants to argue and call names im game
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you are so full of shit. i called you names per your post and outlandish lies. I have several threads on here, posted videos. everyone posted pics and links. you are such a liar
 
unlike you haters we don't go to the other sections and tell people how stupid it is to stick with hps. we don't tell people what to do. We present facts and let people make their own decisions.. all these threads speak for themselves and saying all led grow looks the same is like saying all people look the same. Just more b.s propaganda. That proves you haven't looked at one thread.They talk all this shit. we back up our claims but they don't back up theirs... videos and pics posted in all the hateful threads, then nitpick about veg time. then they talk about their grow with out any pics of proof and contradict what they say about their own grow.

for every incomplete journal. theres 50 more that are completed.. all you have to do is scroll down the first page or 2 of the led section.
 
hyroot said:
uuhhh have you ever grown before... more noob logic


do that with dr. grinspoon. I guarantee you won't get more than 2 zips between 4 plants. oir an old school ibl master kush. at most you will get 1-1.5 zips per plant. jbone evensaid all you need is indica doms. then the strains he uiuses are all sativa doms lol

its a weel known fact that staivas out yield indicas.
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G13 blue og is indica dom, thseeds ultra sour is indica dom, dinafem critical+ is indica dom, they are all indica doms sport
 
Jbone77 said:
G13 blue og is indica dom, thseeds ultra sour is indica dom, dinafem critical+ is indica dom, they are all indica doms sport
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i guess you don't know your strains very well. the lineage of those is all sativa dom parents.
 
hyroot said:
unlike you haters we don't go to the other sections and tell people how stupid it is to stick with hps. we don't tell people what to do. We present facts and let people make their own decisions.. all these threads speak for themselves and saying all led grow looks the same is like saying all people look the same. Just more b.s propaganda. That proves you haven't looked at one thread.They talk all this shit. we back up our claims but they don't back up theirs... videos and pics posted in all the hateful threads, then nitpick about veg time. then they talk about their grow with out any pics of proof and contradict what they say about their own grow.

for every incomplete journal. theres 50 more that are completed.. all you have to do is scroll down the first page or 2 of the led section.
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Go look in the hid section, you guys started the thread " why so many led haters", I think everyone should check it out for themselves and point out who pointed out a grow where led beats hid with identical veg times and who started calling names. I dont need to lie, its locked but still up.
 
Jbone77 said:
Go look in the hid section, you guys started the thread " why so many led haters", I think everyone should check it out for themselves and point out who pointed out a grow where led beats hid with identical veg times and who started calling names. I dont need to lie, its locked but still up.
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i did. it was a nice intellectual discussion in that thread until you trolled along. more lies that you keep spewing.. Don't you have a date with your hand that you are late for
 
Gaius said:
It'd be HILARIOUS. Supra should go post some of his LED efficiency charts over in club 600 and see what happens :).
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if you go to vert club 600 in the vert section,,, not one of them hate. they all ask intellectual questions. alot of them are considering or have switched to cmh over hps.. They are all cool about everything.. even some have leds in vert. The hps guys in there get excited. They are all educated.. u like these haters..
 
If 1 of you led pros will show me a led grow that beats a 600 or 1000 watt hid with the same veg time il shut up. Hyroot has plants that are vegged for 3 months, try that with hid and see what you have, show me 1 grow that isnt a sog where led wins
 
lumbo said:
Just wondering why all the LED grown pics when compared to HID pics look so weak. People all excited about buds which are so small. I have yet to see an LED grow which even equals MH/HPS grow.

After spending thousands I wish I would not have let myself fall for the hype.
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A video I made over a year ago:
[video=youtube;c-_yHBHupCs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-_yHBHupCs[/video]
watch the whole video if you wanna see big buds they are in the second half

I just happen to grow low yielding strains right now but you can look through my journal I feel my results are comparable, in my opinion better quality than most HID grows I see. (more resin)
 
Jbone77 said:
If 1 of you led pros will show me a led grow that beats a 600 or 1000 watt hid with the same veg time il shut up. Hyroot has plants that are vegged for 3 months, try that with hid and see what you have, show me 1 grow that isnt a sog where led wins
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WE all have, me supra, gaius , green genes and green santa have all posted pics and videos You come in my thread and spew hate when my grow is most likely better than yours. 'i bet my plants are far healthier than yours. I'd put money on it


I never once said I vegged for 3 months. I said they might end up going 3 months and thats when they were around 5 weeks i said that. they were root bound in small plastic post for a while. you cherry pick words here and there. to make a bullshit point..

please post pics of your 1lb grow with 4 plants.. we will know if you copy and pasted some one elses grow,
 
hyroot said:
i did. it was a nice intellectual discussion in that thread until you trolled along. more lies that you keep spewing.. Don't you have a date with your hand that you are late for
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Wait, how can u say that you dont post in the hid section and talk shit and then reference the thread in the hid section where you were talkin shit?
 
hyroot said:
WE all have, me supra, gaius , green genes and green santa have all posted pics and videos You come in my thread ND spew hate when my grow is most likely better than yours. 'i bet my plants are far healthier than yours. I'd put money on it
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Not once, same veg time vs a 600 or 1000 hid, show me. Il check back later
 
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