potroastV2
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There is no need to respond JBone and BSD. You've said the same thing so many times that saying it again will be considered spam.
Lol, good call. Il leave your investors alone. My apologiesThere is no need to respond JBone and BSD. You've said the same thing so many times that saying it again will be considered spam.
perhaps you should consider setting up a dislike option along with the like button. I dont mind them spamming I thought it was nice to have some action the forum againThere is no need to respond JBone and BSD. You've said the same thing so many times that saying it again will be considered spam.
perhaps you should consider setting up a dislike option along with the like button. I dont mind them spamming I thought it was nice to have some action the forum again
I am not sure I get what you are saying, must be language barriereOr in your case, a +coal button.
FFS guys... we all like weed ... just have a spliff and chill out..
thread bombing a section about lights that you clearly dont like is fairly sad
You dont like LED we get it... stop being so wound up about it....
I am not sure I get what you are saying, must be language barriere
very good point!I feel the same way. You don't see me every day in the autoflowering section constantly letting everyone know how I feel about autoflowering strains.
It's all about context.
There is the hype. If this were the case than why the trend to go to white LED panels?1000 watts real led would be way better than 1000w hps. Leds only output the lights that the plant actually needs like reds, blues, etc. Hps wastes some of the power for the greens, yellows that the plant cant absorb.
ding...dingbut those street lights grow dense fucking buds... Led's fail to do so...
Probably HPS. Just being honest.
If i was looking to experiment or for something fun to do, I'd use LEDs. Definitely not bashing on leds, I think they're really cool, but HPS are still the de facto conventional weed growing lamp. Unless you're already dialed in with leds and getting good results, going the led route is a risk.
Consider the source. hyroot has abandoned LED and went with induction. I am all for experimentation but why not be honest.The argument is simple, you get led guys like hyroot calling names and refuses to show a single grow where led beats a 600 or 1000 watt hid with the same veg time. If he wouldnt call names and just say that leds work great there would be no argument. When someone wants to argue and call names im game
I still have led. I have the pontoons and an a51 sgs 160. I'm sprouting seeds with it now. I plan on buying 5 more panels flower and 2 for veg. Have a room half induction / led and half led.Consider the source. hyroot has abandoned LED and went with induction. I am all for experimentation but why not be honest.
i have to disagree. DIY is easy. Maybe making a red/blue is challenging but with the good whites available..easy. Open up any led light..area, apache, china....their all the same inside. Buy a $100 ebay light open it up and study the wiring until it makes sense...you just gave yourself a led wiring tutorial.There are a few DIY panels that are really good, but not every one is a success...most aren't in fact. And the ones that are great might as well start their own company fro the time and $ they put into it. To say they blow apache(or a51 for that matter) away is a stretch too. Hans maybe, I'm not sold on hans being one of the greats. Apache at600 or getting enough(4) a51/at200's is/are the only lights I feel can replace a 1000hps. Is there a DIY pulling 1.5-2lbs/4x4??
So are you getting over 1.5g/w with a strictly DIY LED setup or not? Perfomrmance is what shatter when you are saying that it is blowing it away. Cost ties into that but yield is what matters. Supra was one I was referring to when I said the great DIY'ers but I also know he runs a 600hps in there somewhere too. Like he just clarified. But there are others who have show some great grows, but not every DIY is a success is what I said...not that they are hard.i have to disagree. DIY is easy. Maybe making a red/blue is challenging but with the good whites available..easy. Open up any led light..area, apache, china....their all the same inside. Buy a $100 ebay light open it up and study the wiring until it makes sense...you just gave yourself a led wiring tutorial.
not to mention cheap. Upgrading my xml l2 to cxa would cost $160..the price of the leds. Not even an option for either on the market. No commercial dreams and mucho time and money saved not dealing with companies.
DIY is about a commitment to learn and getting the best bang for your buck. The rewards are the best herb I've ever grown hid or led, and that's enough, it's not about money.
What do your plants look like when you flip them?You cant veg 6 plants for 6 weeks and flower them in a 4x4 tent under 1 1000 watt light, you will yield less vegging 6 weeks than you would at 4, thats my point. Not seeing why thats so difficult to follow. The 3 week veg was great