Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Thanks guys I read that the increased performance of t5's over t8's doesn't match the cost percentage increase. Not like they really cost that much to run anyway.
 
Steelheader3430 said:
Thanks guys I read that the increased performance of t5's over t8's doesn't match the cost percentage increase. Not like they really cost that much to run anyway.
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I used to run t5's for one you need the right bulbs. for veg imo htg agromax 5400k bulbs are the best. Anything higher than that on the kelvin scale is useless and produces very slow growth.. Since dropping the t5's imo 432 watts is alot for a 2x4. I run 420w over a 5x5 in veg.
 
Hy guy...What do you think is an ideal L x W for 2 51s and maybe the A19s for supplemental? I'm cutting my plywood tomorrow, and was thinking 2 1/2' x 4' minimum.
 
RedCarpetMatches said:
Hy guy...What do you think is an ideal L x W for 2 51s and maybe the A19s for supplemental? I'm cutting my plywood tomorrow, and was thinking 2 1/2' x 4' minimum.
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2 of the a51's ssgs will cover a 4 x 3 if run them side by side long ways.. Dawg did almost a 4x4 with them. Will the a19's be for side lighting or above?
 
hyroot said:
2 of the a51's ssgs will cover a 4 x 3 if run them side by side long ways.. Dawg did almost a 4x4 with them. Will the a19's be for side lighting or above?
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Good question. I'm sold on the vert on Y sockets...prob 4 A19s total. I was also thinking 3x4 would be the max, but the A19s might push it to 3x5. I can do 4x5 max in my space.
 
RedCarpetMatches said:
Good question. I'm sold on the vert on Y sockets...prob 4 A19s total. I was also thinking 3x4 would be the max, but the A19s might push it to 3x5. I can do 4x5 max in my space.
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If you do side lighting. the bulbs need to be within 3 inches of the plant. Beyond that there is a drastic drop off in the par rating. Within 3 inches from the sides they put out around 800 µmole/s. Then beyond that it's 35 µmole/s. Otherwise grab some white reptile reflectors and put them up above. At 12 inches they put out around 350 µmole/s with a clamp light and 6 inches about 450 µmole/s. So possibly more with a white reflector.
 
hyroot said:
If you do side lighting. the bulbs need to be within 3 inches of the plant. Beyond that there is a drastic drop off in the par rating. Within 3 inches from the sides they put out around 800 µmole/s. Then beyond that it's 35 µmole/s. Otherwise grab some white reptile reflectors and put them up above. At 12 inches they put out around 350 µmole/s with a clamp light and 6 inches about 450 µmole/s. So possibly more with a white reflector.
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I was considering the reptile reflectors angled on side walls. I don't want them getting in the way of the 51 footprint tho. The Y sockets will be propped in place and adjustable...I'm bad ass like that. Do you now ratings without the A19 glass?
 
RedCarpetMatches said:
I was considering the reptile reflectors angled on side walls. I don't want them getting in the way of the 51 footprint tho. The Y sockets will be propped in place and adjustable...I'm bad ass like that. Do you now ratings without the A19 glass?
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in the reflectors they got a much higher par rating having a single bulb. with the Y sockets in the reflector the par rating was half. so you would be better off with a single bulb. Otherwise grab some philips a19's. the led placement is directed downward not from the sides.. There has been solder issues with the philips. They last about 9 months some of the time. but they have a 6 year warranty.
 
hyroot said:
I used to run t5's for one you need the right bulbs. for veg imo htg agromax 5400k bulbs are the best. Anything higher than that on the kelvin scale is useless and produces very slow growth.. Since dropping the t5's imo 432 watts is alot for a 2x4. I run 420w over a 5x5 in veg.
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I just grabbed the cheapo crap at walmart. I'm only concerned with getting them out of the seedling phase really. then I'll just fire up the 1000 watt mh.
 
I was doing TLO for 2 cycles and it wasnt bad at all, it was actually quite exciting growing huge plants in small pots. Great tasting herb, i admit tho that tlo is somewhat like a "hydroponic thinking" for soil. Compare tlo to my no till and theres really no comparison, damn i wish i took pics and journal my tlo experience
 
I don't like to do the spikes either. It disrupts the microbial life down below. Just topdressing. I looked into the ro water system he talked about. The counter top ones look good. I wonder how they compare to hydrologic. I've been using tap forever. there are ways to rid chloramine without filters
 
hyroot said:
I don't like to do the spikes either. It disrupts the microbial life down below. Just topdressing. I looked into the ro water system he talked about. The counter top ones look good. I wonder how they compare to hydrologic. I've been using tap forever. there are ways to rid chloramine without filters
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blackstrap molasse for chloramine but you can only use so much of it right? I am lucky here I think tapwater is pretty good though I have never tested it. I am curious about the spikes it would allow me to have overall weaker soil with the spikes I am definitely going to give it a try. It is true in nature you find ''pockets'' of food in the soil like wherever the animals pooed or where the rats died etc....
 
Or where birds died. A friend of a friend shot a raven and put it in his garden. A few days later some dude with headphones attached to an antennae was walking around his yard. Followed the beeps right to the guys veggie garden. Dude said he found it on the side of the road. Damn thing had a radio bracelet. Gardening Native American style.
 
Steelheader3430 said:
Or where birds died. A friend of a friend shot a raven and put it in his garden. A few days later some dude with headphones attached to an antennae was walking around his yard. Followed the beeps right to the guys veggie garden. Dude said he found it on the side of the road. Damn thing had a radio bracelet. Gardening Native American style.
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Or it was a CIA drone disguised as a Raven.


DankSwag
 
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