Zeus's Take on Harvesting

Unnk

Well-Known Member
gonna push the genetics of some bag seed midis and see what i can produce with this method of harvesting lol
 

rabidcow

Active Member
i grow hydro and with organics. i know what my plants look like when they are ready to chop but i dont know when i should start the flush could u give me your opinion on this. SpuceZeus
Hey Zues, very good thread, no need to say that tho considering about 75% of this thread is full of that( i just did tho huh). I am in my 1st hydroponic grow using an ebb abd flow with white widow and i am trying to figure out when i should start my flush. I understand that you should chop when the buds look swollen and the pistils shrink into the bud, but how can i apply this to the flush. I am in week 7 of 12/12 and i know they are not "READY". i am just having trouble translating that to when i should start my flush. i think i have asked this same question over last few days in a few different room and even asked it in a few different ways, needless to say i come up with bupkis so far on the subject. even went as far to start a thread asking when is too late to harvest.
here is a link to it if you would like to put in some input. https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/289342-harvesting-too-late.html#post3614245

you deserve + rep for this thread and you get another plus from me. just hope you can answer my flush question as well. no pics cuz my puter is being an asshole.
 

Unnk

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Hey Zues, very good thread, no need to say that tho considering about 75% of this thread is full of that( i just did tho huh). I am in my 1st hydroponic grow using an ebb abd flow with white widow and i am trying to figure out when i should start my flush. I understand that you should chop when the buds look swollen and the pistils shrink into the bud, but how can i apply this to the flush. I am in week 7 of 12/12 and i know they are not "READY". i am just having trouble translating that to when i should start my flush. i think i have asked this same question over last few days in a few different room and even asked it in a few different ways, needless to say i come up with bupkis so far on the subject. even went as far to start a thread asking when is too late to harvest.
here is a link to it if you would like to put in some input. https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/289342-harvesting-too-late.html#post3614245

you deserve + rep for this thread and you get another plus from me. just hope you can answer my flush question as well. no pics cuz my puter is being an asshole.
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dont listen to those cats about cloudy to amber producing the diff between couchlock nad not couchlock thats just outrageous because thc is useless with out its cbd and cbn counter part just as thcv is usless with out them why dont these ppl grow out a pure sativa and let it ripen like it should and lets see if they get a (couchlock off it) and btw amonth into flower these bag seed genetics are crazy got 3-4 really diff phenotypes 2 of them being really dank and the others being pretty damn good as well
 

bob+marley

Active Member
That first picture is sexy!!!

Great post! I see a lot of people harvest prematurely on this site. Everyone is afraid of hermis and THC degradation or they want a pure indica to act like a sativa.

a grower wanting a stoney COUCH GRIPPING indica to be more like a light buzzy fun sativa high.

A buddy o mine just pulled his beautiful PURE KUSH plant about two weeks early.


Ruined.



great post dude. +rep+rep+rep
 

damargentina

Well-Known Member
hey man excellent post! suscribed! gypsybush gave me the link... mine are definitely not ready to harvest yet but i sure will give you a holler when i think they are ;-)
peace!
 

Drr

Well-Known Member
why be a clown like you and just SAY things, here's a link, asshole


Hell, like you, i'll make it easier cause you won't find it :

"Traditionally marijuana has been harvested when the pistils die and the calyx starts to swell into a false seed pod. These days the best growers are getting much more detailed in their harvesting criteria. They take a close look at the trichomes themselves to judge peak harvest. Evidence that this is the only real way to tell peak maturity is in Sagarmatha's strain Matanuska Tundra, which ripens resin glands while most pistils are still alive and white. This seems an odd twist of evolution but proves that the pistil color and ripe glands do not necessarily have any correlation."

from : http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2159.html



colliebudz - 1
idiotman_420 - 0

maybe you should go read a FAQ or two of your own, with that shitty ugly 250w first grow lolll


edit :

you know what black swan theory is? no of course not, cause you're stupid, it's basically, in tom_420 terms, means just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist..
Pretty much the first thing I say.



Take it down a notch with the insults please. I'm not going to indulge any bullshit on this thread.

In answer to your question, I've got experience with white widow, rhino and russian (and a number of other strains that no doubt have some 'white' in their lineage) and I've never personally grown (or seen) a phenotype that I would consider ripe before the pistils recede. I've heard stories, but i'm quite sure that even then the plants would benefiet from some more growth.

Did you see the picture of the cloudy amber glandular trichomes in the first post? the ones that were at 4 weeks of flowering?

As I've already stated in this thread, You need to take a plant well past it's window of ripeness before the resins actually break down, and often times you will experience "waves" of ripeness rather than just one. If you take down a pure haze plant during its first wave of trichome maturity, you'll miss out on three quarters of your yield and pretty much all of the flavour.

Try pushing the limits of what you believe to be harvest time, i think you'll find you can achieve new flavours and effects from familliar strains. You might not have the patience for it, but then again, you might become a believer.


I mean, if someone wants to send me some Matanuska Tundra seeds, I'll gladly grow them, documenting their trichome development in relation to overall plant maturity. But until I sees it with me own eyes, 'taint no black swan round these parts'.



Now this is a classic case of my dad can beat up your dad.. Zeus is sharing his experience with a ripe plant. (over ripe in collieBudz eyes) and collieBudz quotes a fucking link of some other guys words..

Do some of your own research and hard work and then debate the subject...



Now onto harvesting.. I seen this thread pretty much when it started.. watching my tric's i've noticed they stand up in waves.. up and down.. and i'm still waiting for amber tric's altough I have no scope just a dinky hadn held magnifying glass.. but it's white shinny crystalls for the most part.. the white glands are when the thc is most concetrated I think.. letting it break down and letting the calyx swell(smoking material) you will get a much better high.. THC is only 1/3 to 1/6 the battle in my eyes.. thinking its number 1 and the only one.. is plain ignorant ..

THC degrades when drying and also when curing.... curing isn't just about taste the long slow cure allows for a proper break down and not a complete break down..
 

stinkbudd1

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I mean s**t, I just spent 20.00 on a F*****g micro scope and jewlers loupe and here you come with this S**T.. Great job my man, real talk (+ rep)and thanks for sharing!!!love the pic's also..peace
 

travon

Member
I just want to thank you for this info and yes!! I went by the trichomes and yes i thought i chopped to early even when said 50/50 cloudy,amber should be chop time and it didnt even look close to being that riped this will help in the future.this is a sticky right???
 

jebus2029

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I had a strange experience growing my first grow. It flowered for 96 days and I don't think it was completely done. Very short plant but with sativa looking leaves. Very short distance between nodes. I chopped when about 10% amber because that's what everyone said to do even though after 3 months there was still new growth and white hairs popping out. It was a great high but lacked flavor. Also since I was new to growing I didn't know really what I was doing. No nutes except for succunat, which it got every watering except last 10 days after flushing. It didn't fill out as much as I thought it should but that might have been lack of food.
 

laceygirl

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I had a strange experience growing my first grow. It flowered for 96 days and I don't think it was completely done. Very short plant but with sativa looking leaves. Very short distance between nodes. I chopped when about 10% amber because that's what everyone said to do even though after 3 months there was still new growth and white hairs popping out. It was a great high but lacked flavor. Also since I was new to growing I didn't know really what I was doing. No nutes except for succunat, which it got every watering except last 10 days after flushing. It didn't fill out as much as I thought it should but that might have been lack of food.
Yeah, it was lack of food... MJ needs specific nutrients to do what it needs to do... You really need to do some reading on the botany of Marijuana, it will give you a better understanding of why the plant does what it does... Its actually very interesting reading... Start again, making sure you know the basics, there are heaps of people on here willing to give their knowledge and experience to help you...:-)
 

jebus2029

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Yeah, having another go at it now. They are about 10 days old or so. Using succunat at the moment. I have Fox Farm's Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, and Big Bloom on the way. Liquid for soil grow.

Funny thing about the last grow was that everyone loved it and it was pretty potent. I think everyone liked it so much though because I was super careful with trimming and storage. Never touched the buds so whenever I broke out a nug it was covered in super long trichomes.
 

TheNatural

Well-Known Member
One day, everyone will realize that Cannabis is a fruit and you do not eat green bannanas.

A Cannabis Tree has a GLOW to her that is unmistakable, when she is completely ripe.

Once you see this glow, in a properly ripened Tree, you will never need a microscope or an opinion, of when it is done.

Of course, it pays to turn out the Big Lights to see this glow at it's best, but you can see it all the same and it will set you free, LOL.

Blessings,

Rev. TheNatural

P.S. it is not really Amber you are looking for in the Trichomes anyway.......Golden Trichomes, is the color that makes me salivate and my girls scream....I'm done, as they glow.
 

laceygirl

Well-Known Member
One day, everyone will realize that Cannabis is a fruit and you do not eat green bannanas.

A Cannabis Tree has a GLOW to her that is unmistakable, when she is completely ripe.

Once you see this glow, in a properly ripened Tree, you will never need a microscope or an opinion, of when it is done.

Of course, it pays to turn out the Big Lights to see this glow at it's best, but you can see it all the same and it will set you free, LOL.

Blessings,

Rev. TheNatural

P.S. it is not really Amber you are looking for in the Trichomes anyway.......Golden Trichomes, is the color that makes me salivate and my girls scream....I'm done, as they glow.
Thank you Revered for your blessings...lol... :-) May your trees of happiness bloom to giant footballs...

Laceygirl...:-)
 

vtguitar88

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Hey so, on the first page (yeah way back there...) Zeuss gave an excellent example of a case where the trichomes developed but the buds were clearly not ready. I have a case where I swear the buds are done - almost entirely orange hairs, very dense buds, hairs are shriveled - but the plant is a weird strain (probably not very potent) and doesn't have that many visible trichomes. The ones I could see looked maybe slightly amber, probably more milky, with my 60x scope, but again, they seem to be few and far between. Is it possible to have the opposite situation of what Zeuss posted, as in buds done based on overall appearance and pistils but not clearly showing amber trichs?? Thanks in advance for any pointers, I seem to be gettin myself all worked up about the best time to harvest, as I'm a first timer.
 

Drr

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Be using a scope you check a small fraction of the bud.. the gloden amber glow tells you most or alot of them are turning or have turned.. You can clearly tell if you watch it grow.. they come on clear sparkly and slowly fade cloudy/milky white, then amber/golden up...

and you want smoking material so you need the the seed brackets to swell which helps with the over all ratios of chemicals I think..
 
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