your thoughts on today's court case(federal)

leaffan

leaffan

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I wish Conroy would have jumped on this "stores" issue. The lawyer for HC put his foot in his mouth, but I don't think Conroy seized the opportunity.
 
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Rustydog

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Anyone know how we can get a transcript of the case today. Would be interesting to read everything that was said.
All I say was what the CTV reporter was tweeting which was great but I am sure we missed some.
 
WHATFG

WHATFG

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j0yr1d3 said:
Did anybody else find it hilarious the government lawyer kept saying "fledgling commercial system"? Like they already know this new system is crap and nobody wants it. The government case was pretty laughable, my favorite part was when they said "some people will benefit from growing their own, but common sense dictates most will want to buy it from a store". Yeah ok except there isn't going to be "stores" under the MMPR. It's pretty obvious this is nothing but a money grab and has nothing to do with patient care or quality of life, I think the judge has seen that today. All the LPs and HC are probably shitting their pants now.
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I wondered about the world fledgling as well. It means, in this context, having just acquired flight feathers, new and inexperienced. But I think means just what we thought originally - doomed to fail. Hahahahahaha lmao!!!!!
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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german1 said:
There were a few lines that the judge used today that may foreshadow the judges decision:

1. It was a serious issue
2. Saw little evidence that not for profit producers will motivated to produce a wide variety
3. Questioned the defense numerous times about why no witnesses were cross examined and why there were no inspections

Overall from a legal opinion I believe Conroy presented a much stronger case for the injunction but I wouldn't be surprised if there were additional restrictions or recommendations brought forward because of the information presented today.

This indeed was a big blow to licensed producers who if I was one would be definitely worried about the future of their business. Once this information hits the main press I believe that will push a lot of the "new" patients away from this type of medication.
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The LPs deserve to drown in debt.
 
cannadan

cannadan

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wow guys and gals this thread really took off..lol
seems finally some forward movement for MMAR ,hopefully it continues to move forward...the same.... maybe improved....bottom line for me is
I would rather move forward with mj than continue on with liver destroying opiates.
there are so many good comments thanks
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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The judge mentioned something about "this needing to go to trial", what would that mean for us exactly? Would the MMAR remain untill the trial or would it still be the MMPR? Or is that what we find out Friday?
 
cannadan

cannadan

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I'm hoping the judgement is for friday and doesn't drag it out too long....
some lp's are already operating...so I would imagine both will run concurrent....until a final judgement is made....
I have a buddy who is just new to the system and he has no choice but to purchase from lp, since they would not give him a grow lic.
ultimately the judges will decide....at the SC level....so this is just a process stepping stone anyways
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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so what about the MMAR patients whose licenses have expired but haven't signed up yet with the MMPR, will they have to go re-new their MMAR with their DR.?
 
cannadan

cannadan

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yep...my doc even sent the forms in for me...and they rushed back the new documents....mind you it expires at the end of the month....
 
WHATFG

WHATFG

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We are supposed to have some decision by Friday. It will most likely be posted on Comroys website. Given what we were told went on, I think the judge did ask the right questions, especially with regard to whether inspections were done and how would they handle personal strains. Speaking of that, in one breath they are saying they aren't convinced that there is anything to the different strains then turn around and say LPs will be working to test efficacy of different strain they're developing. Don't know their asses from a hole in the ground.
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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Interesting. If it does go to trial I wonder how long it will be till then. I know we'll soon find out but it's driving me crazy in the mean time lol.
 
WHATFG

WHATFG

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cannadan said:
yep...my doc even sent the forms in for me...and they rushed back the new documents....mind you it expires at the end of the month....
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All ATPs, PUPL's and DPPL's expire on March 31. If your ATP is dated later than that, you can use up to that date, to register with an LP. The subject of limited supply just come up again on cbc. I'll post details when I hear them.
 
cannadan

cannadan

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I know some of you wanted to embrace the new system....but the old system was not that broken just not being administered to by HC properly...
you think a handful of inspectors would have broke HC...or maybe share inspectors with provincial health organizations....
either way they are negligent in their handling of the whole thing......best they can do now is fix up the weaker area's of the mmpr and use the lp system they are developing for
medicinal studies....and to give some supply options to old and new patients....
if you run out or have crop failures etc...there should be a second avenue for supply and not irradiated shake...
 
j0yr1d3

j0yr1d3

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Health Canada and the Harper nazis really dropped the ball on this one. Instead of looking at patient needs and what works in other parts of the world as well as here they decided to ignore our rights and try to force a completely experimental model of medical marijuana that benefited nobody but them and greedy corporations. Now they are continuing with their farce and wasting $400,000 tax payer dollars to tell us all to destroy our meds. And we are the criminals? Can't wait to hear the judge's decision.
 
NorthernLass

NorthernLass

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cannadan said:
you think a handful of inspectors would have broke HC...or maybe share inspectors with provincial health organizations....
either way they are negligent in their handling of the whole thing......
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jesus - Harper has refused to give CFIA enough money to hire enough inspectors to inspect our food. Why in god's name would you think they would do the right thing for pot?
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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cannadan said:
I know some of you wanted to embrace the new system....but the old system was not that broken just not being administered to by HC properly...
you think a handful of inspectors would have broke HC...or maybe share inspectors with provincial health organizations....
either way they are negligent in their handling of the whole thing......best they can do now is fix up the weaker area's of the mmpr and use the lp system they are developing for
medicinal studies....and to give some supply options to old and new patients....
if you run out or have crop failures etc...there should be a second avenue for supply and not irradiated shake...
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I'd never give them access to my house. I'm not sure why people think it's OK that the RCMP should be able to search your house ever if you're not breaking the law and they have no evidence that you are.
 
spider9

spider9

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OGEvilgenius said:
Yeah, what's to like? Her totally biased analysis or the fact she's happy to toss insults at anyone who disagrees with her?
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yea what he said and I think all the LP's should be worried we are going to win I hope they lose as much money as the patients would if HC some how won which they can't
 
cannadan

cannadan

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its unfortunate our government....uses the division and conquer method to try and pit Canadian against Canadian...on a lot of issues....and we fall for it often...
I think we all have been kinda stressed out lately....with our opinions and positions ....no matter which side of the coin your looking at....
best we can do is stay focused on the defeat of HC...in this matter
 
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