Yield on green house

NoobgrowerLbc said:

Hate pgr or love it. The stuff you buy in dispensary all have it. It is not illegal and is safe to smoke. Just dont make edibles with it

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Unfortunately, the fertilizers and PGRs used by growers in the cannabis industry are not as tightly regulated as in agriculture. Without a regulatory body overseeing the industry’s standards, unscrupulous growers can use PGRs to improve the appearance of their yields.

As a grower of a medicinal plant that many people use for ailments such as pain etc why would any self respecting grower use a carcinogen with unknown effects when smoking.

dispensaries are supposed to be the place to get your medicine!

as in to help you feel better!

Without them knowing it could cause them cancer or liver issues.

anybody using synthetic PGR’s should be held accountable that includes dispensaries selling it and the nutrient manufacturers adding into their products.

Another reason to grow your own

MidnightSun72 said:

You do realize that you are poisoning people with that shit?

fucks sakes

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My clue was the Forbid 4F miticide and g/f and mother crawling through the grow. I'm guessing troll. but it's just a guess.

This is precisely why I grow my own and wouldn't buy.

NoobgrowerLbc said:

Hate pgr or love it. The stuff you buy in dispensary all have it. It is not illegal and is safe to smoke. Just dont make edibles with it

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That's bullshit. Oregon tests for PGR's and if found to be contaminated the weed has to be destroyed and cannot be sold at a dispensary.

Products known to contain Paclobutrazol and Daminozide have been banned for sale in California and Oregon.

It's too bad that there are growers like you using that crap. I wouldn't smoke any of that shit you're growing. In fact I wouldn't take it if you offered me a ten pound bag of that garbage.

xtsho said:

That's bullshit. Oregon tests for PGR's and if found to be contaminated the weed has to be destroyed and cannot be sold at a dispensary.

Products known to contain Paclobutrazol and Daminozide have been banned for sale in California and Oregon.

It's too bad that there are growers like you using that crap. I wouldn't smoke any of that shit you're growing. In fact I wouldn't take it if you offered me a ten pound bag of that garbage.

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How is it banned when i ordered it from amazon? Im in cali too

NoobgrowerLbc said:

How is it banned when i ordered it from amazon? Im in cali too

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The reason you can still buy them is that they aren’t officially banned for use on other crops.

NoobgrowerLbc said:

How is it banned when i ordered it from amazon? Im in cali too

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And also you do understand how Amazon selling works right?

I can order stuff on Amazon that comes form USA, U.K., Canada, China, France, Germany.

Amazon allows sellers to advertise on its platform.

I bet when you look into where it’s come from it’s not in a state that’s banned the use of them.

jondamon said:

And also you do understand how Amazon selling works right?

I can order stuff on Amazon that comes form USA, U.K., Canada, China, France, Germany.

Amazon allows sellers to advertise on its platform.

I bet when you look into where it’s come from it’s not in a state that’s banned the use of them.

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Exactly. You can't buy it on the shelves at local stores. Ordering online bypasses the local bans.

But it really is too bad that any grower would choose to use that garbage on their weed and then sell it.

Oregon, Washington, and California lead the country in trying to prevent garbage products from being used on cannabis. And you better not try and sell products with unlisted ingredients because they test for them and if you're a licensed commercial grower and you fail for banned substances you could have your crop seized and destroyed.


ODA Issues Stop Order on Two Fertilizer Products – 0-0-1 Bud Candy Organic and Bud Candy Critical Carbohydrates Mix for Big Sugary Nugs
September 20, 2018


"Regulators in both states are warning that any use of the since-banned products could result in cannabis failing state-mandated lab tests, and Washington says some products could even be confiscated and destroyed."



There is a reason testing and holding these companies accountable with stop sales orders and fines is so important. A grower using a product they think is organic should not have to find out that it contains malathion.

"On December 26, 2019, an organic grower contacted the Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA) after an insecticide labeled “organic” tested positive for pesticides not approved for organic production. Before applying to his crop, the grower tested the product Southern Ag’s Triple Action Neem Oil. The product is advertised as organic with neem oil as its naturally occurring active ingredient. The grower’s test came back positive for Malathion, a non-organic pesticide widely used in agriculture, residential landscaping and pest control. Malathion was not listed as an ingredient on the label, that is a violation of Oregon law ORS 634."

Do you have pics of previous harvest?

With that green house does it allow you to grow longer in colder conditions towards the end with no issues? I’m in Detroit and them last weeks are critical with our weather. I grabbed a green house to combat that issue some.

xtsho said:

Exactly. You can't buy it on the shelves at local stores. Ordering online bypasses the local bans.

But it really is too bad that any grower would choose to use that garbage on their weed and then sell it.

Oregon, Washington, and California lead the country in trying to prevent garbage products from being used on cannabis. And you better not try and sell products with unlisted ingredients because they test for them and if you're a licensed commercial grower and you fail for banned substances you could have your crop seized and destroyed.


ODA Issues Stop Order on Two Fertilizer Products – 0-0-1 Bud Candy Organic and Bud Candy Critical Carbohydrates Mix for Big Sugary Nugs
September 20, 2018

ODA Issues Stop Order on Two Fertilizer Products - 0-0-1 Bud Candy Organic and Bud Candy Critical Carbohydrates Mix for Big Sugary Nugs - Loney Law Group

The Oregon Department of Agriculture (“ODA”) has issued a notice ordering the stoppage of sale and distribution of two fertilizer/nutrient products that contain pesticide active ingredients not listed on the label. They are which are listed below. The products contain pesticide active...

loneylawgroup.com

"Regulators in both states are warning that any use of the since-banned products could result in cannabis failing state-mandated lab tests, and Washington says some products could even be confiscated and destroyed."

Oregon Halts Sale of 14 Grow Products Due to Unlabeled Pesticides

Regulators in both Oregon and Washington warn that any use of banned products could result in cannabis failing state-mandated lab tests.

www.leafly.com

Oregon Bans 12 Different Pesticides

Ooregon Bans 12 Different Pestisides and stop sale and removal orders for horticultural products that contain pesticide we release today.

greenlightlawgroup.com

There is a reason testing and holding these companies accountable with stop sales orders and fines is so important. A grower using a product they think is organic should not have to find out that it contains malathion.

"On December 26, 2019, an organic grower contacted the Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA) after an insecticide labeled “organic” tested positive for pesticides not approved for organic production. Before applying to his crop, the grower tested the product Southern Ag’s Triple Action Neem Oil. The product is advertised as organic with neem oil as its naturally occurring active ingredient. The grower’s test came back positive for Malathion, a non-organic pesticide widely used in agriculture, residential landscaping and pest control. Malathion was not listed as an ingredient on the label, that is a violation of Oregon law ORS 634."

Complaint leads ODA to issue Stop Sale, Use and Removal orders for six over the counter pesticide products claiming to be organic

On December 26, 2019, an organic grower contacted the Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA) after an insecticide labeled “organic” tested positive for pesticides not approved for organic productio…

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This is the problem.

when it’s unlisted the unsuspecting grower has no further info about the product. Take that neem product as a prime example!

Luckily for him he had the conviction to test it first!

Do these synthetic PGR users honestly think that they are doing anyone a favour?

If the strain your growing doesn’t have the ability to perform to the way you need it to then it’s quite simple. Strain and pheno hunt until you find it.

that’s why people pheno hunt on particular strains to get the characteristics they want!

Some people spend 2-5 years looking for the pheno they desire just within 1 strain.

Jmann89 said:

With that green house does it allow you to grow longer in colder conditions towards the end with no issues? I’m in Detroit and them last weeks are critical with our weather. I grabbed a green house to combat that issue some.

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It does but you will prpduce stemmy ugly buds. Low yield too

Well i ended up using it very early to stop stretch and it worked. Only 1 application will not use it anymore for the rest of the grow.

Jules1976 said:

What the man is trying to tell you when you put into flower you might have a problem with rot I had I in a small tent because of overcrowding if you got rot it there it would be devastating by the time you noticed it could be all over I didn't notice for 1-2 days and it cost me around 8 buds some times less is more I am learning the hard way

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Beat me to it. Your going to have some serious problems with that many in a small space. Have you considered getting rid of some. I would. Or at least do some heavy pruning to get the space needed to avoid powdery mildew and rot. It may seem harsh. But your risking some serious problems when they flower

go go kid said:

Beat me to it. Your going to have some serious problems with that many in a small space. Have you considered getting rid of some. I would. Or at least do some heavy pruning to get the space needed to avoid powdery mildew and rot. It may seem harsh. But your risking some serious problems when they flower

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They are pruned very heavy. I have superb airflow even when i black out no condensation. I dont even see powder mildew.

Heres a update 3 weeks into flowering

Bump

How are your plants already flowering? What part of the world is this?

quazyqual said:

How are your plants already flowering? What part of the world is this?

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Well that pic i showed was week 1 flowering
This is week 3