Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

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HippieYippie

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veggiegardener said:
Not so. The worms come from eggs deposited on the bud leaves(usually). Some are laid in groups, but in my area most a laid one to a bud. Watch for small butterflies and moths around your plants. If you see them, they are laying eggs. Spray regularly and thoroughly.
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Thanks..... sprayed the BT- "Safer" and will keep an eye out....
 
rastadude

rastadude

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"Enjoy your moldy buds." lmfao

those of you who think you know everything are entertaining those of us who do!

play nice girls, you're both pretty
 
oregonboy

oregonboy

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day 3 of my drying process and the budworms are falling out onto the floor..........niiiiice....also magnified and every single drying bud is coated in mites............ho hum.......might try to freeze them for half an hour.....any advice??...put buds in a jar and freeze is all I can think of, CO2 is another option, but no thanks........switching to indoor , after 3 years outdoors the pests and hail are winning the battle....I live next to massive agriculture farms , and their "tiny" infestations are biblical in proportion to my little plants.
 
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ULEN

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Day 56 and she comes down due to the elements. She looks done but I would have liked for her to go 80 days.
 
RIPE

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CrazyChester said:
Chowing down on your buds at this very moment. At least their chowing down on mine. I hit them with some with some BT this evening.

I have a question or two for those who have used BT in the past. Does it effect the quality of the weed. (Taste, Buzz....) And is it really safe for smoking. How long do you have to wait after spraying before you harvest. I've been using BT on my garden for decades without any problems but I always wash the food I grow before I eat it. But I'd have to be crazy to wash my weed before smoking it. Though I could give it a little spray down a few days before harvest. Any suggestions?

Here's some pics of my two plants progress. You can see the damage done to one of the buds and one of our crawly little pests.

If anyone has any idea of the strains I'm growing I'd sure like to know.
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I see the worm in one picture but don't see any in the other pictures. Where is the damage to the buds. I've got a bud on one of my plants and it is half black. I know something has been messing with it. You've got a few buds to spare. Nice pics.
 
FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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Captain jacks dead bug brew. Not 1 budworm or budworm damageed bud found so far. I have harvested around 20 small plants so far. I saw moths and butterflies all year in the greenhouses and the outdoor plot. Found 0 budworms!! Still finding moths stuck to buds too!! No worms tho......yet.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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oregonboy said:
day 3 of my drying process and the budworms are falling out onto the floor..........niiiiice....also magnified and every single drying bud is coated in mites............ho hum.......might try to freeze them for half an hour.....any advice??...put buds in a jar and freeze is all I can think of, CO2 is another option, but no thanks........switching to indoor , after 3 years outdoors the pests and hail are winning the battle....I live next to massive agriculture farms , and their "tiny" infestations are biblical in proportion to my little plants.
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I've had large spider mite infestations a few times. Usually late in budding. Very little real damage. I've found that spider mites will always climb up, gathering at the tip of the stem if the buds are pointed down. Once the buds begin to dry, the mites can't feed off them and wander away to die. I haven't seen a web this year. I have nine plants hanging with no visible mites on the twine the buds are hanging on.
 
ILikeKindBud

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Here in Hawaii the bud worms are bad all year long it seems. I spray with Bt once a week. I have read that it breaks down in the air 3-5 days after applying. I Usually spray up till about a week before harvest. As soon as a worm eats some of the sprayed leaf he stops eating. Dies in 3-5 days and spreads more Bt when he does. I also give my plants a good shake a couple times a day. You see the small white moths that lay the eggs come fluttering off the plant. These moths need some time to burrow into the plant and lay eggs, so by keeping them moving they don't have as good of a chance. Thats my 2 cents!
 
The303Yeti

The303Yeti

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I have always used beneficial bacteria and have never had bud worms. I'm wondering if maybe it's the climate though. What type of climates are you guys in?
 
The303Yeti

The303Yeti

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ILikeKindBud said:
Here in Hawaii the bud worms are bad all year long it seems. I spray with Bt once a week. I have read that it breaks down in the air 3-5 days after applying. I Usually spray up till about a week before harvest. As soon as a worm eats some of the sprayed leaf he stops eating. Dies in 3-5 days and spreads more Bt when he does. I also give my plants a good shake a couple times a day. You see the small white moths that lay the eggs come fluttering off the plant. These moths need some time to burrow into the plant and lay eggs, so by keeping them moving they don't have as good of a chance. Thats my 2 cents!
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Are these worms tropical? I live in the high rockies and never have had a problem. We always have late frost though.
 
ILikeKindBud

ILikeKindBud

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They are all over the place but I believe the cold winters help keep them down. When I was farming in Colorado they were a bigger nuisance on tomatoes and corn. I've been told some species love marijuana more then others and will go for it first. If you've never had a problem, I wouldn't worry to much!
 
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thepenofareadywriter

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The303Yeti said:
Are these worms tropical? I live in the high rockies and never have had a problem. We always have late frost though.
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if you have those white butterflies, you will have the worms.... put screens around your plants
CrazyChester said:
Chowing down on your buds at this very moment. At least their chowing down on mine. I hit them with some with some BT this evening.

I have a question or two for those who have used BT in the past. Does it effect the quality of the weed. (Taste, Buzz....) And is it really safe for smoking. How long do you have to wait after spraying before you harvest. I've been using BT on my garden for decades without any problems but I always wash the food I grow before I eat it. But I'd have to be crazy to wash my weed before smoking it. Though I could give it a little spray down a few days before harvest. Any suggestions?

Here's some pics of my two plants progress. You can see the damage done to one of the buds and one of our crawly little pests.

If anyone has any idea of the strains I'm growing I'd sure like to know.
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you can wash your weed I have done it before...it is called water curing or some shit, any way I soaked mine for a few hours all the shit comes out with the water...it wont affect the potency of your weed it just turns really dark...it is not bag pretty, and the taste is very mellow and it is extra work
 
TheGreenStash

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I live In san Diego and have been growing medicinally outdoors for the past 5 season and only these last 2 season did I use BT to prevent and deter caterpillar infestations. I've always tried to avoid any pesticides or anything that's not organic on my fruits as I am a strong believer in natural methods being the key to healthy medicine. Caterpillars can be the equivalent to a plague of locusts depending on how you deal with them. Even in a green house with a UV-C / HEPA Air Purifier unit installed those little bastards some how manage to finagle there way in in the mid weeks of flowering and all it takes one or 2 of those white moths, yellow moths, to lay hundred's of hair like egg's just waiting to burrow into the leaves and later erupt havoc unto your precious fruits of labor. With the eggs in place the parasitic larvae becomes dependent on your plant and literally grows into full adult stage in less than 3 weeks, by that time the little fuckers have vapiristicly sucked the vital essence that was needed develop the oil oozing thrichomes that you diligently worked for and sought after, yet is destroyed if one is not prepared. Anticipating an attack on a species that matures from larva to mature breeding pupa in such a short time can be hard to foresee. The life line and nature of these monstrosities that eat constantly, leaving trails of little black crap balls inside of your once gorgeous kola's that seemingly spontaneously combust, not on fire but into black mold, as there shit contains the foundation for even more problems.... Literally shitting all over your hard work, and these endomorph's life cycles from egg to cocoon to breeding adult only takes less than a month. So If your In Southern California, and you plan on going outdoor with your fruits, I would totally recommend BT as a preventative and a counter measure, as it is a safe and bio-degradable/ biological warfare against these pesky little guys. Use Caution though, I've noticed that when spraying with bt that it will increase your chances of developing PM: powder Mildew if you spray at night, so you have to be careful what time of day your spraying as to prevent stagnant water deposits that can develop unwanted fungal culture and spread nasty spores throughout your garden. I tend to spray early as possible, 1-3 times a week so that the moisture will evaporate, as to prevent pm. Hope this was helpful, #dabLyfe. #FuckCattipilars
 
TwistItUp

TwistItUp

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I might have been wrong or confused about the bit where I said that mulch helps a plant not transpire so much of its liquids. I don't even remember saying that, and don't recall where I would have read such a thing. But anyway if I was wrong about that or anything else I suggested to this guy, that is all beside what I'm saying in this post. Here is a screen shot from youtube when I messaged someone who is basically claiming to be a pro who makes grow videos. I asked him how he deals with pests and if he could do a video covering this. I thought I made it pretty clear to him that I have problems with my outdoor with caterpillars specifically. Just yesterday I realize the guy actually wrote me back. I didn't even know they guy replied, and I had forgotten about messaging him.
When I did read his reply I was a bit taken back by what he had to say. The guy claims that "nature takes care of bugs outdoors.", then he goes on to say something to the effect of "never" having a bug problem outdoors in over two decades, that sometimes maybe a caterpillar would like to mulch a bit, then he declares that when growing outdoors that plants will overgrow the damage from the caterpillars. I was left wondering if maybe this guy is all Hollywood, smoke and mirrors, if he actually does grow outdoor or just wants to appear that way. The rest of us seem to have problems with these worms. Why does this other guy not have any bug problems. Now I really want to know his secret to warding off pests. Over two decades growing outdoor and never a bug problem. ;D What is the trick with that.

 
TwistItUp

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Hmmmm, whats that device you are using at 00:3 in the intro to every video Mr. Brown dirt warrior ;D
Why would a guy who has never had a bug problem in over two decades be using a atomizer bug sprayer?
I must be confused, or he is full of shit. I'm still trying to figure this out.

https://www.youtube.com/user/brwndirtwarrior

Screen shot from his intro to every video.
 
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