Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

Sir Napsalot

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I’m finding those little bastards everywhere the last few days, mostly on my herbs, but a few on buds too. Pulled up two mint plants and they were loaded with caterpillars!

Tell me more about how your using peroxide on those small brown spots.
I pull the brown parts out with tweezers (they come out easily) and then spray the surrounding area with 3% hydrogen peroxide mixed 1:1 with water in a little misting sprayer
 

FishingwithDave

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Are you using BT?
Yes, I’ve been spraying them with BT since they started flowering, but there were some greater than one week gaps in spraying. I also have them under 30% shade cloth, but it’s not 100% coverage so the moths still find their way in and lay eggs. BT spraying will be on point to I’m done harvesting.
 

DCcan

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Spinosad has a much higher motality rate ~80-85% vs 65% for btk for caterpillars
However, if you combine them when applying, it gets up around +98%.
Same with mixing btk with B Bassiana for caterpillars, it brings the mortality rate way up since there are several modes of action going on.

I mixed 2 types, Bt-k and Bt-a (Xentari) this year, really worked well.
 

FishingwithDave

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Spinosad has a much higher motality rate ~80-85% vs 65% for btk for caterpillars
However, if you combine them when applying, it gets up around +98%.
Same with mixing btk with B Bassiana for caterpillars, it brings the mortality rate way up since there are several modes of action going on.

I mixed 2 types, Bt-k and Bt-a (Xentari) this year, really worked well.
Appreciate the info! Do you mix BTK with Spinosad and then spray or are you spraying them separately at different times?
 

DCcan

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Every time I read "BTK" Dennis Rader comes to mind
Same here, try to do lower case or a dash to keep the heebie jeebies away. ;)


Appreciate the info! Do you mix BTK with Spinosad and then spray or are you spraying them separately at different times?
No, they tank mix fine. Just do them at the lower application rates when mixing.
Usually spray Regaila with it at the same time, no problem.
 

FishingwithDave

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Found a few more brown spots today and a couple live caterpillars. Used Sir Napsalot tweezers and peroxide to treat the spots and tortured the cats. I sprayed BT yesterday morning and on 10/4/22. I don’t know if it’s killing those bastards or not, but I think it is cause the damage seems to be limited.5027B5E9-1388-4D4D-9FC1-1C6A1869B0F8.jpegEDA9A03D-7436-434C-80DD-1C305B302084.jpegBCC7CE28-2FBB-4731-9D25-84B974E6F72D.jpeg
 

Dark_Hatchling

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Found a few more brown spots today and a couple live caterpillars. Used Sir Napsalot tweezers and peroxide to treat the spots and tortured the cats. I sprayed BT yesterday morning and on 10/4/22. I don’t know if it’s killing those bastards or not, but I think it is cause the damage seems to be limited.View attachment 5210652View attachment 5210653View attachment 5210654
Yeah those things are some little fuckers. You're almost there though, keep inspecting every day. I like to go worm hunting in the early mornings.
 
worm hunting for me in the north bay seems to be around 4 or 430pm. I sprayed with B.t. a few days ago. I pulled a little one off the outside, maybe it was dying. Plants seem to be holding on. Not getting worse anywAYS.
 

Sir Napsalot

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I'm starting to harvest now and so far I've found one small live caterpillar in a bud

It's really amazing how much damage one small caterpillar can do in a couple of days

On the plus side, most of my flowers are clean and unaffected
 

FishingwithDave

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This has to be the worst year for bud worms for me! Just found six more damaged areas this afternoon and this morning, I didn’t see any bad spots! Maybe the morning sun messes with my eyes, I don’t know. Fuck! And, I’m not seeing any dead or alive cats and I’m not any eggs either. So fucking frustrating as these fuckers are really starting to take a toll.

A question. I’m usually done harvesting by now, but the four remaining plants still have a couple of weeks to go. I’m in central California. Are the moths more active this time of the year or could the warmer temps this October prolonged their activity?

I think I’m pulling down the 30% shade cloth and replacing with mosquito netting I have.48BF11D2-D753-4B26-8707-EE6EC03EBB7F.jpeg
 

CaptainCAVEMAN

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Yeah I found these f*ckers Iny babies just a few days ago. I sprayed with bt and now just looking for the rotting spots to tear put. So sad. My babies were looking so good until a week ago....here's one of them I pulled out yesterday after spraying with Monterey Bt.hes a bigger one. I found little budworms imbedded in my best buds...
That is an excellent picture of the little fuckers. :clap: Thanks for sharing here. Cheers!
 

BrassNwood

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This has to be the worst year for bud worms for me! Just found six more damaged areas this afternoon and this morning, I didn’t see any bad spots! Maybe the morning sun messes with my eyes, I don’t know. Fuck! And, I’m not seeing any dead or alive cats and I’m not any eggs either. So fucking frustrating as these fuckers are really starting to take a toll.

A question. I’m usually done harvesting by now, but the four remaining plants still have a couple of weeks to go. I’m in central California. Are the moths more active this time of the year or could the warmer temps this October prolonged their activity?

I think I’m pulling down the 30% shade cloth and replacing with mosquito netting I have.View attachment 5217270
For BT to really be effective you have to start spraying when the buds first form and keep on the treatments once a week every week without fail. Even missing one week can let the little shitters get established and dug in to deep to eat treated leaf. Running a bug zapper near by will help to limit the damn moths that are the source of our troubles.
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I chopped the grills out of this style so i can brush out the dead every morning as my monitor on how bad the infestation is.

10 years I've successfully fought the little bastards and Southern California is thick with them. BT is destroyed by sunlight in a few hours so you can spray right up to and including the week of harvest. If I lose a bud now I have only myself to blame and can always look back and think Ahhh I missed the middle week of Sept BT spraying when we were out of town.


I alternate BT on Monday and Potassium Bicarbonate for the Powdery Mildew on Thursday. This is all I find I have to treat for. Mother nature controls everything else.

BNW
 
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