X-ray vs. IR for Seeing through Walls

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pro grow

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Want to get peoples opinions on which would be better for a spy camera? X-ray is send and receive right? I think that could give my neighbors skin damage right? Peoples keep saying "x-rays cause cancer" besides don't they use x-rays in chemotherapy?

Infra red wouldn't have the detail that x-ray would, but, it wouldn't cost as much to operate. I doubt an x-ray camera would be as portable and discrete as an infra red camera could be.

I think I would have to have both of them to determine which one I liked better.
 
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redivider

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x-ray technology to look through walls costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, no, it costs millions of dollars and fits in the back of a flat bed trucks with diesel engines...... only one or two companies make the machines and their supply is strictly regulated by the federal government, i think.........

how do you want to use this to spy on your neighbor???

if you think you can see though a wall like they do in the movies that's CGI, or COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGERY............
 
TicTic

TicTic

Member
Get a drill and make a little hole so you can peep on your hot neighbor.
should cost like less than 100 for good drill and bits!
:D
 
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pro grow

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I wonder if x-ray goggles are something the military has invented and just forgot to tell Hollywood that IR isn't cool anymore.
 
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redivider

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pro grow said:
I wonder if x-ray goggles are something the military has invented and just forgot to tell Hollywood that IR isn't cool anymore.
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x-ray goggles don't exist.

IR is still the name of the game if chasing a suspect at night, or for bored cops to spot grow houses.......
 
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NoDrama

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Good Luck, getting IR equipment that you can see through walls with is Military style shit, your looking at millions of dollars. The stuff that can see thru walls with IR is called FLIR (Forward Looking Infrared). Basically they liquify oxygen with a compressor and cool down a germanium arsenide block to about 20 degrees above absolute zero with thousands of amplified video channels attached. The picture is pixelised and then transmitted to a special circuit that sends the info to a monitor. The stuff you buy at the outdoor store is cheap ass IR stuff.

Good luck with the X-Ray rig, let us know how much cancer you contract after using it a few times.
 
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Angry Pollock

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redivider said:
x-ray goggles don't exist.

IR is still the name of the game if chasing a suspect at night, or for bored cops to spot grow houses.......
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haha, when i was a kid, on the back of a comic book, they were selling a device called "x-ray specs", well i bought a pair ,only 2.00 btw, and wouldn't ya know it, the damn things didn't work
 
ExDex1x1

ExDex1x1

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See crazy people like you are why I moved out to the middle of nowhere. Why the fuck do you want to spy on your neighbors live and let live. Also go to the doctor you most likely need to be medicated.
 
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Outta Spacehigh Spaghetti

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The government makes people in foreign teritories pay for its ability to require us to stay not high. I just thought of a tital. Now you see why i dont ever go back. except to well unniggeascrub it up as much as it deserves for how his majisty is recieved by the othe men and creatures who partake in his manifestation of reality in their own lives.:blsmoke:
 
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nl3004.kind

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i am unsure as to if i have EVER been high enough to understand what the f--- this particular poster just wrote...

anyone???

i'm confused, not just by the poor punctuation but also by the spelling of run on words...

anyone translate this for me???

you'll get a "like" out of the deal...

any takers???
 
doc111

doc111

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IR, thermal imaging, FLIR..............none of this shit can see through walls! There may be some sort of top secret military shit that can see through walls, but FLIR, Infrared, thermal imaging, whatever you want to call it cannot see through walls. That's just not how it works. Sorry.:-(
 
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grow plenty

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Outta Spacehigh Spaghetti said:
The government makes people in foreign teritories pay for its ability to require us to stay not high. I just thought of a tital. Now you see why i dont ever go back. except to well unniggeascrub it up as much as it deserves for how his majisty is recieved by the othe men and creatures who partake in his manifestation of reality in their own lives.:blsmoke:
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dude...i was thinking the same thing in my cell last night! thats just amazing....
 
ExDex1x1

ExDex1x1

Active Member
nl3004.kind said:
i am unsure as to if i have EVER been high enough to understand what the f--- this particular poster just wrote...

anyone???

i'm confused, not just by the poor punctuation but also by the spelling of run on words...

anyone translate this for me???

you'll get a "like" out of the deal...

any takers???
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Im paraphrasing here but it seems hes mad that some nameless government (hes ignorant enough to think everyone knows that hes talking about America since we're the only ones with interwebz access apparently) is apparently making foreign countries pay them a fee so that they can keep their own citizens sober (like China paying the us to not get high srsly I dont follow this). He no longer goes back to this mystery country (implying he left) except to do some native ritual known as unniggeascrub (I assume is some African rain dance type thing) because this country deserves rain dances. Also apparently there's a king; people live their lives.

I feel like I just discovered the mentally challenged Rosetta stone
 
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nl3004.kind

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espect for even trying dex!

for the record things like flir CAN "see through walls" by generating an image directly reflecting something that is on the other side of an opaque surface...

it works by determining and then showing temperature variations: AKA this is the thing mounted on drones, planes, helicopters that is used to determine that a structure is being used as a growspace by establishing the heat signature of houses and buildings during various times of the day and night and then comparing the relative heat inside the structure with outside and or other similar structures...

this technology used to be used for strictly military needs, but with the growing "war on terror/drugs/people/citizens/civil rights" it has found major cachet with the various agencies tasked with carrying out such "WARS" and while it has been used with devastating effect on the battlefields of the world (finding snipers, enemy command and control centers ect) it has been less effective in fighting the drug war, though using it domestically (in america that is) has sky-rocketed since it has been available (approximately the past 15 years) it has not been seen as the end all-be all weapon against drugs it has been trumpeted as...

increases in computing power and technology have brought down the price as well as raised the usability of this technology in recent years, thus making it more attractive to domestic governmental consumers...

several civil rights groups have successfully mounted protests against the use of flir without warrants as well as "by-product" raids (eg, the electric company mounts it on a chopper, circles a major metropolitan area, and reports to the leo's any buildings which appear to be "hotter" than they should be)...

in most jurisdictions the use of flir is restricted to targeting one specific building and is authorized after the agency in question has attained a certified search warrant (kind of how wiretaps used to be used in the pre-9/11 days)...

if you weren't afraid of learning: doc111, five minutes on the interwebz could have shown you that your statement is, in fact, verifiably false...

sorry to burst your bubble...

as always i respect the diversity of opinion on this wonderful site, however am compelled to stand up when people spread falsehoods about easily checked facts...
 
fabfun

fabfun

New Member
why dont u spend 5 minutes googling i want to see the proof to your claims
go look at some ir vids bro it does not see through shit it picks up surface temps

thats why if u look at a house u cant see shit
or in a car chase u cant see the engine or the driver unless he is in a convertable car

and sorry to bust your bubble but supreme court ruled in usa that flir without warrarnt is a illegal

nl3004.kind said:
espect for even trying dex!

for the record things like flir CAN "see through walls" by generating an image directly reflecting something that is on the other side of an opaque surface...

it works by determining and then showing temperature variations: AKA this is the thing mounted on drones, planes, helicopters that is used to determine that a structure is being used as a growspace by establishing the heat signature of houses and buildings during various times of the day and night and then comparing the relative heat inside the structure with outside and or other similar structures...

this technology used to be used for strictly military needs, but with the growing "war on terror/drugs/people/citizens/civil rights" it has found major cachet with the various agencies tasked with carrying out such "WARS" and while it has been used with devastating effect on the battlefields of the world (finding snipers, enemy command and control centers ect) it has been less effective in fighting the drug war, though using it domestically (in america that is) has sky-rocketed since it has been available (approximately the past 15 years) it has not been seen as the end all-be all weapon against drugs it has been trumpeted as...

increases in computing power and technology have brought down the price as well as raised the usability of this technology in recent years, thus making it more attractive to domestic governmental consumers...

several civil rights groups have successfully mounted protests against the use of flir without warrants as well as "by-product" raids (eg, the electric company mounts it on a chopper, circles a major metropolitan area, and reports to the leo's any buildings which appear to be "hotter" than they should be)...

in most jurisdictions the use of flir is restricted to targeting one specific building and is authorized after the agency in question has attained a certified search warrant (kind of how wiretaps used to be used in the pre-9/11 days)...

if you weren't afraid of learning: doc111, five minutes on the interwebz could have shown you that your statement is, in fact, verifiably false...

sorry to burst your bubble...

as always i respect the diversity of opinion on this wonderful site, however am compelled to stand up when people spread falsehoods about easily checked facts...
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fabfun

fabfun

New Member
glad i took your advice to google
now stop being so disrespectful especially when u are wrong


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Can infrared equipment see through metal, glass, or walls?
Not really. Infrared thermography is often confused with x-ray or radiographic equipment. Hollywood movies don't often portray the technology accurately either. In essence, Infrared Cameras are a passive visual capture device. They have sensors that "see and record" light waves that human eyes can't see.

Therefore, they cannot see through metal, glass, and walls. They can only "see and record" the infrared energy emitted from the surface of materials. This information is still very valuable, however, because they are sensitive enough to often detect problems inside a component by the amount of energy (heat) that is being transmitted through the material.
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doc111

doc111

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nl3004.kind said:
espect for even trying dex!

for the record things like flir CAN "see through walls" by generating an image directly reflecting something that is on the other side of an opaque surface...

it works by determining and then showing temperature variations: AKA this is the thing mounted on drones, planes, helicopters that is used to determine that a structure is being used as a growspace by establishing the heat signature of houses and buildings during various times of the day and night and then comparing the relative heat inside the structure with outside and or other similar structures...

this technology used to be used for strictly military needs, but with the growing "war on terror/drugs/people/citizens/civil rights" it has found major cachet with the various agencies tasked with carrying out such "WARS" and while it has been used with devastating effect on the battlefields of the world (finding snipers, enemy command and control centers ect) it has been less effective in fighting the drug war, though using it domestically (in america that is) has sky-rocketed since it has been available (approximately the past 15 years) it has not been seen as the end all-be all weapon against drugs it has been trumpeted as...

increases in computing power and technology have brought down the price as well as raised the usability of this technology in recent years, thus making it more attractive to domestic governmental consumers...

several civil rights groups have successfully mounted protests against the use of flir without warrants as well as "by-product" raids (eg, the electric company mounts it on a chopper, circles a major metropolitan area, and reports to the leo's any buildings which appear to be "hotter" than they should be)...

in most jurisdictions the use of flir is restricted to targeting one specific building and is authorized after the agency in question has attained a certified search warrant (kind of how wiretaps used to be used in the pre-9/11 days)...

if you weren't afraid of learning: doc111, five minutes on the interwebz could have shown you that your statement is, in fact, verifiably false...

sorry to burst your bubble...

as always i respect the diversity of opinion on this wonderful site, however am compelled to stand up when people spread falsehoods about easily checked facts...
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Think whatever you want. I bring evidence. Where's yours?:roll:

http://www.pr-infrared.com/about-thermal-imaging/popups/popup-1.php
 
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