WW Big leaf problem. PLEASE help. PICS

i water when the first inch of the soil is dry.. but thats just me and other people may say different ( lift pot, is it heavy or light, ect ect ect) as far as a nitro deficiency i find that it works best to water ur plants and right after give it the recromended dose of the terracycle food (on the bottle)
and please dont piss on ur plants! they derserve better than that... this stuff is cheap/safe and works wonders

Those plants look mad healthy. as she flowers she will yelow and eat more leaves. You could try to fight it but its natural growth is to yellow as she flowers. Let me guess your around 4 to 5 weeks of flower? Next grow you could try to add more nitrogen in veg so there is more stored up but right now it is not worth trying to slow or stop a natural process. Let her eat those leaves and remove them when they fall off by a simple touch or tug.

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Towards the middle to end of flowering stages, the plant will show a nitrogen deficiency almost always. This process is completely normal and just let the plant naturally yellow out as it uses it's stored nutrients. This actually helps you by getting ready for final flushing and then harvesting. At this point DO NOT not use nitrogen to fix the problem. The yellowing leaves will then eventually drop off after the plant is done with them.

This is my sativa dom. She just hit 5 weeks and started yellowing a week ago. Already removed a couple yellow leaves.




next with your ph out of whack the nitrogen in your bloom nutes were being locked out some nay way. Another reason to not go adding more nitrogen imho. Fix your ph and let those girls run it out man. Bud will be dank.

if u want ur plants to look like "leftyy24k" listen to him LOL!!!!

OREGON GREEN said:

if u want ur plants to look like "leftyy24k" listen to him LOL!!!!

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Not just me. I posted a link to a very good guide.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

Towards the middle to end of flowering stages, the plant will show a nitrogen deficiency almost always. This process is completely normal and just let the plant naturally yellow out as it uses it's stored nutrients. This actually helps you by getting ready for final flushing and then harvesting. At this point DO NOT not use nitrogen to fix the problem. The yellowing leaves will then eventually drop off after the plant is done with them.



Next I am high as shit off some dank as shit I grew. So I let my results speak for themselves

I know the leaves will turn yellow and die on their own at some point. My concern is that it started in the first week of flower. Then they ended up with the other problems that I have pictured. Those pics were from about 5 or 6 days ago and they are actually about twice as bad now. I think pH was def part of the prob but being as I never gave them N in growth phase, I'd think that they are definitely lacking. They are at 30 days and should have another 40-60 to go. I'm not sure they'd make it off of their leaf storage that long.

tdiddy said:

I know the leaves will turn yellow and die on their own at some point. My concern is that it started in the first week of flower. Then they ended up with the other problems that I have pictured. Those pics were from about 5 or 6 days ago and they are actually about twice as bad now. I think pH was def part of the prob but being as I never gave them N in growth phase, I'd think that they are definitely lacking. They are at 30 days and should have another 40-60 to go. I'm not sure they'd make it off of their leaf storage that long.

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They will be fine. Yes they were defecient early cause you had no veg nutes and than you had a ph to low and had lock out. The main concern now that your ph is correct that you do not start adding nitrogen and cause an overabundance and possible toxcity in the soil. Definetly flush good if you had not.

Next tiger bloom should have more than enougn N for flowering. Your earlie ph loick out that yopu stated you fixed was why you had early yelowing. Now your at the poiunt where your sativa dom was arleady going to start her yellowing. This is the issue you made with the ph lock out. If the pics are old post new pics than but from your pics I see tons of young green inner growth as well as green secondary fan leaves. And your bud leaves look great.

Look at it this way, They are your plants, and if you go ahead and try to fix there is a good chance you can burn them. Thats why i posted that guide . WW is a 8-10 week strain. Your at week4 or 5. Thats midflower.

From the guide

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

Nitrogen (N) Mobile Element and Macro Element

Benefit: Nitrogen plays a very big role in your plants; this one element is directly responsible for production of chlorophyll, photosynthesis, Amino Acids, which are the building block of Proteins. The myriad of enzymes which help the plants growth in leaves stems and the how well the vigor of your plants is.

Nitrogen is the biggest mobile element meaning it can travel anywhere on the plant.
Usually the def will start on the lower to middle part of the plant, and then will usually happen to older leaves first. Then the deficiency will work its way up the plant. Your plant can be green on top, then yellowing on the lower leaves when the deficiency is starting out. Yield will be greatly reduced without good amounts of nitrogen in your plants. Sometimes in bad cases the leaves will turn a purplish color along with the yellowing.

Unlike a magnesium deficiency, nitrogen def will start from the tips and work its way back to the leaf node. Nitrogen and Magnesium get confused. The best way to tell them apart is, nitrogen deficiency starts around the tips and works its way to the back of the leaves, where a magnesium deficiency will cover the entire outer part of the leave and make the entire leaves yellow leaving the veins to stay green. If your plants are having a slow growth rate and have yellowing of the leaves, then most likely it’s a nitrogen deficiency.
Towards the middle to end of flowering stages, the plant will show a nitrogen deficiency almost always. This process is completely normal and just let the plant naturally yellow out as it uses it's stored nutrients. This actually helps you by getting ready for final flushing and then harvesting. At this point DO NOT not use nitrogen to fix the problem. The yellowing leaves will then eventually drop off after the plant is done with them.

I would hate to see you back here in the problem section with plants, that right now imho look healthy overall , with nute burn. Fix the ph, it casue the lock out. keep up the tiger bloom and ff schedule. Any addirtional yellowing is more than likley due to flowering.

This is what I would do in your situation. And I have shown You my flower tent as proof that I practice what I preach.

Good luck. Hope they end up dank as hell

I'll post new pics later for a final opinion. Not gonna do anything until I water anyway and that will probably be tomorrow. I havent flushed though, since new growth now seems ok. Is that a big deal?

tdiddy said:

I'll post new pics later for a final opinion. Not gonna do anything until I water anyway and that will probably be tomorrow. I havent flushed though, since new growth now seems ok. Is that a big deal?

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Any time you have a issue the first thing as a soil grower you do is flush. This lets you reset the medium. Use 2 or 3 times the container size of phed water. Let them dry and the next time you need to water give them 1/4th or 1/2 strength nutes. Tiger bloom should have enough nitrogen for flowering. With no veg nutes during veg you will def see more yellowing than others might.

What really made your issue worse was the ph out of whack. And flushing will fix soil ph. You were feeding tiger bloom and the nutes were building up in the soil. So now you have nut lock out abd build up. Flushing will clear this build up. Adding more nitrgen will casue a toxicity. So flush and start your blomm nutes back the next watering.

The key is the secondary fan leaves and the bud leaves. if those are growing and are green, especially new growth, than your fine. Its likley the lockout mixed with mid flowering that is causing the yellowing. Which honestly looks alright from the pics you showed.

Just flush and don't worry bout adding any more nitrogen at this point and risking bigger issues.

Following fox farms schedule with proper environment and ph will not kill or harm your plants. But you sure can try to add more nutes to a nute locked out soil and kill them plants. Go slow and flush, than continue your schedule once you fixed the big issue. Your ph imbalance. And you should be fine

Good Luck

wow, this is some funny shit!

Ok, I took these earlier. The close up is to show that newer growth is still pretty good. The rest is pretty bad, though. Its hard to see the back plant but its pretty much the same as the front.

Ok, I flushed and watered again with nutes and I also added a little more nitrogen. I figured I can flush again if needed nut it does seem thats what they need. Couldnt find terracycle so wen with another fert with 5-1-1. We'll see what happens.

Hopefully you don't mes anything up but those plants look normal and healthy man. Just stick with your nute schedule your on. You added some 5-1-1 so you added more than nitrogen. So now your going to push an imbalance. To much of one nute locks outs others. It takes some getting used to but this is how they grow. Its like trying to get your trees from leaves turning color in the fall. Its what they do.

You fixed your major issue why you had the top issues. Ph. the other yellowing is normal. So in your pics there is 2 different things going on. You have clear ph issues that you have since fixed. Than you have normal yellowing of lower to mid fan leaves from flower. Slow down. Once you fix your ph any lock out issues would be fixed. Now your voer doing it by adding even more nutes to try to fix a ph issue.



Good Luck Hope it all works out

I added right after a flush so the soil was already saturated when I did it. 90% of the watering with the nutes and nitro ran right through it because it was so wet. I will continue with the normal schedule from here. I may even tone the nutes down a little.

hey dummy u did every thing they told u not to do no more nutes u dont add nutes to wet soil again flush and let dry then add small amounts and hang on worst case u will get small wispy buds but dank listen and learn,,,

davids said:

hey dummy u did every thing they told u not to do no more nutes u dont add nutes to wet soil again flush and let dry then add small amounts and hang on worst case u will get small wispy buds but dank listen and learn,,,

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You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. I appreciate any help I can get, but please don't leave an idiotic response if you haven't read the entire thread. More than one person with quite a bit of experience said to add, one person said not to. I went somewhere in the middle and explained my reasoning for doing so.