WTF actually is Bath salt ? Anybody ?

mrCRC420

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I saw this dude tweaking out on bath salts one time; southie; I told the cops about him; ruined their lunch... lsd isn't something I've ventured into, boomers are a good time; I like to stay natural...... except for molly... and fuck salvia ever since 10th grade hahaha....... anyways.... .bath salts r bad mmm'kay ;)
 
Me personally I don't like hydro I swear I can taste the chemicals and yes I know acid is not natural and why is everybody acting crazy cause I asked what bath salts are and said I like to stay natural plant soil sun or light yes its natural you just mimic the sun and I have been an outdoor grower up until a week ago I don't even use fertilizer its all photosynthesis which my friend is natural I kinda what to try molly though
 
There are a few variations of this.

From a toxicology standpoint, this shit is pure overdrive.

Imagine your brain is a bathroom sink. Cocaine floods your brain like turning the faucet on full blast. Meth is like turning on the faucet, but closing the drain. (or maybe I have it backwards, I forget)

Bath salts is like running the sink full blast with the drain closed. It does both at the same time.
 

MrEDuck

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LSD doesn't occur in nature but d-methamphetamine does. It's a rather arbitrary way of deciding what is and is not safe especially since nature has come up with so many very nasty compounds!
It's certainly not all photosynthesis. Without nitrogen and magnesium your plant can't make chlorophyll to carry out photosynthesis. If plants hadn't evolved to uptake any form of nutrient available they wouldn't be able to use the salt forms of essential elements.
And again growing inside under artificial lights is anything but natural.
 

rory420420

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Ok..imsocuteanddying...check out penn and tellers 'bulllshit' series..the one on organic vs man made fertilizer..no matter what happens in anyones eyes,N-P-K IS What is broken down by plants thru different processes utilizing microbes..there is no difference other than using chemical pest repellant ect...and in the long run,everything will eventually be 'compost'..even the plastics man produces will degrade...
 

rory420420

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But lsd can be chemicaly derived or organically from my knowledge..right or wrong I love it either way!(and I can't spell!)
 

MrEDuck

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In theory the pathway that is used biosynthetically to make lysergic acid could be used to make it, then the peptide coupling enzyme from ergot that makes ergotamine should work to form an amide bond between the lysergic acid and the amine of your choice. In theory anyway. Anyone feel like funding me?
 

MrEDuck

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You would need to figure out how the organism synthesizes the lysergate part of the molecule and then you could isolate the genes for the necessary enzymes and stick them into bacteria that are basically just little organic chemical factories. Then you can see if there's an enzyme that can make the amide bond (or alkylate the LSA after forming the simple amide) or try any of the number of peptide coupling reagents that are commonly available.
The question really is when does something stop being natural. Humanity has spent out entire existence trying to alter the natural world to better suit our purposes. While I think we often go too far the prospect of sleeping in a cave and having to keep the sacred fire going because we don't know how to start another one while constantly worrying about attack by bigger stronger predators sounds much less appealing. Nature is a heartless bitch who pushes her children harder than any Chinese mother ever has in the name of evolutionary selection. Look at the frequency of mass extinctions where 90+% of life gets annihilated. I'm a hippy and I love the natural world but this idea that nature is kind and gentle and loving is utterly ridiculous!
 

Xrangex

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There are a few variations of this.

From a toxicology standpoint, this shit is pure overdrive.

Imagine your brain is a bathroom sink. Cocaine floods your brain like turning the faucet on full blast. Meth is like turning on the faucet, but closing the drain. (or maybe I have it backwards, I forget)

Bath salts is like running the sink full blast with the drain closed. It does both at the same time.
What do you mean?
theres no way any rc is worse for you or more toxic than ice..
 

MrEDuck

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What do you mean?
theres no way any rc is worse for you or more toxic than ice..
Pure methamphetamine is by no means healthy but is nowhere near as toxic as people perceive it to be. The reason street meth is so nasty is the impurities. Because RCs are generally made in real labs in China the quality is usually pretty good. I wish that the average quality of street synthetics was as high as that of the worst Chinese methylone I've seen.
 

canndo

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I just get a little weary the "I only take NATURAL" crowd. as though they are superior to the rest of us who see that some "natural" things are poison (I only smoke tobacco" which is NATURAL). And we don't live in a classical "natural" world any more so as I said, what, exactly, is "natural"?
 

MrEDuck

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I just get a little weary the "I only take NATURAL" crowd. as though they are superior to the rest of us who see that some "natural" things are poison (I only smoke tobacco" which is NATURAL). And we don't live in a classical "natural" world any more so as I said, what, exactly, is "natural"?
For some reason it's not letting me like this post. So I'll type it out. MrEDuck likes this.
 
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