Wrinkled New Growth

mattman089

mattman089

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Another thing I find odd is the fact that there are only three fingers on these new leaves while all the leaves below have 5 or 7.
 
mattman089

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3rd Monkey said:
Not odd at all if it's low Ca. Not enough blocks to build big leaves.
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Copy that. Thanks! The newer growth coming in has all 5 - 7 fingers... It's so weird lol. Still gonna add some cal mag next water. Would like to do it sooner than later but also don't want to over water them!

Last weekned we had 2 power outages while the lights were on... 1 at 3am when a drunk driver hit a transformer. Lights when off for 2 hours. Not too big of a deal until it happened AGAIN around 1pm that day for about an hour. They were likely patching the quick fix they did early that morning. I'm wondering if those interrupted lighting periods had anything to do with this.. Not sure if you can see in the photo but there's also a deformity on one of those leafs. Very odd...

Anyways, going to add some cal-mag asap hoping to get the issue resolved.
 
Merlin1147

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A week and a half to dry out! I would consider backing off on the amount of water each watering. You want that soil to dry out more frequently than every ten days. Just be careful doing that if your adding a lot of nutes. Over time you can run into salt issues if you don’t water to runoff.
 
mattman089

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SheeshM said:
Good catch by Merlin. If you are planning on transplanting, make sure you have plenty of perlite and pots that drain well.
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Thanks a lot! I like to keep them on the smaller/busy scale size wise so I usually only transplant once from a solo cup to what they're in now.

I actually add about 20 - 30% perlite to my FFOF.
 
mattman089

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Merlin1147 said:
A week and a half to dry out! I would consider backing off on the amount of water each watering. You want that soil to dry out more frequently than every ten days. Just be careful doing that if your adding a lot of nutes. Over time you can run into salt issues if you don’t water to runoff.
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Yea, it's really odd this grow! The only thing I've done differently is have them about 4 - 5' off the ground so not sure if that's why they're staying so wet!

Recently moved them back on the floor in a tent where I normally keep them so hoping it helps dry them out quicker!

The crazy thing is that I wasn't even giving them a lot of water - they've just been staying wet. RH in the room has stayed a consistent 55 ish. Tried using a dehumidifier but don't want the RH to drop too low during veg but it's something I'm keeping an eye on. I don't like that they're taking so long to soak up the water.

As for nutes - being that I'm using FFOF, I haven't added hardly anything yet. Next time I water in the next day or so I plan on giving them their first feed w/ fert. In the past I've had some mild burning issues with seedlings/early veg. but 5 weeks in, I think they may be able to take some light dosing of FF big 3, cal mag and some molasses...

Thanks again for the input and if you have anything else to add please, let me know!!

PEACE!
 
Merlin1147

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Could be there was compaction of the FFOF when you planted. I use FFOF straight out of the bag but I very gently layer the mix into the pot with no compaction. If I’m transplanting I put an empty container where the new plant in going and fill in around the container and drip wet the whole thing to leach then top off gently if I get settling. Then plant and drip water in.
 
TacoMac

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mattman089 said:
Any ideas? All the new growth looks very crinckly/wrinkled also seems to have some dark green undertones...

It could also just be me over thinking but growth seems to have slowed a bit although again - I could be wrong.
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When you mix your soil, make sure you get yourself a bag of garden lime and mix in about two cups of it (for a 5 gallon pot) along with the perlite (overall perlite should be about 35 to 40% of the mix). Perlite is a decent source of calcium, but lime is king when it comes to that. It's usually about 5 dollars a bag at Home Depot.
 
3rd Monkey

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TacoMac said:
When you mix your soil, make sure you get yourself a bag of garden lime and mix in about two cups of it (for a 5 gallon pot) along with the perlite (overall perlite should be about 35 to 40% of the mix). Perlite is a decent source of calcium, but lime is king when it comes to that. It's usually about 5 dollars a bag at Home Depot.
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Since when does perlite contain calcium?
 
3rd Monkey

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TacoMac said:
Many brands of perlite have calcium and other mineral additives in it. Lime is still a better source though.

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Yea, that's perlite with additives. Perlite itself does not contain calcium.

Lime is good if you want to raise ph, gypsum is better if you need ph to stay the same.
 
TacoMac

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Never had a problem with lime changing the PH. You're not planting in pure lime for fucks sake. But do carry on ranting about completely worthless shit.
 
3rd Monkey

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TacoMac said:
Never had a problem with lime changing the PH. You're not planting in pure lime for fucks sake. But do carry on ranting about completely worthless shit.
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What? I wasn't ranting, just stating factual info. I farm... dolomite definitely raises ph, I don't know what in the hell you're talking about.
 
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