Would you work for a new (small) LP?

Princess of Pot

Princess of Pot

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I have a question for you guys: would any of you ever work at an LP as a grower? I know that There's a lot of big companies that have left a terrible taste in the mouth of all of us patients. But I heard recently that HC is making a mad push to get a lot more licenses issued in preparation for the recreational market. There will be all sorts of new LPs. And I wonder if a bunch of the smaller mom and pop grows will finally get licensed. What do you guys think?
 
TheRealDman

TheRealDman

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Princess of Pot said:
I have a question for you guys: would any of you ever work at an LP as a grower? I know that There's a lot of big companies that have left a terrible taste in the mouth of all of us patients. But I heard recently that HC is making a mad push to get a lot more licenses issued in preparation for the recreational market. There will be all sorts of new LPs. And I wonder if a bunch of the smaller mom and pop grows will finally get licensed. What do you guys think?
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ShiTweed is sniping anyone close to obtaining a license. Mom & Pop may have a better chance after legalization...imo.
 
Princess of Pot

Princess of Pot

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I guess I'm just curious what everyone's opinion is. I would never work for these big companies. I think what they have done to patients is disgusting. But I was thinking that some small LP that was purely for the Rec market might be ok.
 
MaddAddam

MaddAddam

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I am taking this question in the context of rec, and how many new LPs (some of them M&P) that will come to exist. Once the national framework is in place and people and companies can adhere to it, mom and pops will undoubtedly be part of it. Some of it will simply be people or couples that have scrimped and saved to get the buy-in that HC requires in terms of capital outlay to adhere to their requirements. Because these people and organizations have more money than me does not mean I hate them. I hate the previous system of cartels that tried to limit patients rights, including my own.

So, after the framework is implemented I think people will hate LPs a lot less. Some of us will work for them. It will be different at a regional and provincial and national level, but niches will exist. At some point in the plan WE are the LPs. That will become more apparent after the current LP cartels lose their exclusivity.
 
buckets

buckets

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I'd be a DG and grow for people...but I don't know if I would be willing to become an LP. I don't like the idea of forming a corporation. This country has been taken over by corporations and the family mom and pop non corporate businesses seem to have no value to the feds and the political parties at the federal level. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe every LP with a license is a corporation aren't they?
 
MaddAddam

MaddAddam

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buckets said:
I'd be a DG and grow for people...but I don't know if I would be willing to become an LP. I don't like the idea of forming a corporation. This country has been taken over by corporations and the family mom and pop non corporate businesses seem to have no value to the feds and the political parties at the federal level. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe every LP with a license is a corporation aren't they?
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Forming a corporation simply means you get to decide on a structure to the company (i.e. directors, board, etc.), and a taxation structure as well. Corporations are entities and are not evil simply because they exist...! Ever heard of the small business tax credit? It is the reason mom and pops didn't get totally wiped out by Big Business.
 
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cannadan

cannadan

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bottom line is all LP's big or small are in this for profit...period.
show me the lp that selling for cost only....this is an LP that's in it to help out patients.
Until that happens and it won't....I would never work for or buy from any LP...
money taints the whole scheme.
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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MaddAddam said:
I am taking this question in the context of rec, and how many new LPs (some of them M&P) that will come to exist. Once the national framework is in place and people and companies can adhere to it, mom and pops will undoubtedly be part of it. Some of it will simply be people or couples that have scrimped and saved to get the buy-in that HC requires in terms of capital outlay to adhere to their requirements. Because these people and organizations have more money than me does not mean I hate them. I hate the previous system of cartels that tried to limit patients rights, including my own.

So, after the framework is implemented I think people will hate LPs a lot less. Some of us will work for them. It will be different at a regional and provincial and national level, but niches will exist. At some point in the plan WE are the LPs. That will become more apparent after the current LP cartels lose their exclusivity.
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I urge you to research the names behind these LP's and their connections and involvement in government. From lobbying to remove patient rights, to over-charging a captive customer base, to their use of illegal poisons with no repercussions. This is an old boys club and to think they will welcome mom & pop growers is naive. The small growers need to band together under a craft grower label to separate themselves from the LP scum.
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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MaddAddam said:
Corporations are entities and are not evil simply because they exist...!
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But many do evil things in order to protect their existence. LP's using banned poisons is a great example. When their focus is on the shareholder rather than the customer, you know most are going to bend and break the rules. Difference from you and me is they have the connections, lawyers and financial ability to sweep it all under the rug and the ma & pa growers will be the scapegoats.
 
redi jedi

redi jedi

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Ive had a couple job offers from LP's...I would be better off flipping burgers at rotten ronnies.

IMO the price of weed is going to plummet with legal rec. Growing indoors wont be as profitable as everyone thinks. Despite the governments attempts to keep the price artifically high aka 'for our safety'.
 
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thelast1

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cannadan said:
bottom line is all LP's big or small are in this for profit...period.
show me the lp that selling for cost only....this is an LP that's in it to help out patients.
Until that happens and it won't....I would never work for or buy from any LP...
money taints the whole scheme.
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Do you boycott grocery stores and produce your own petroleum products as well? With that attitude you would need to produce virtually everything yourself.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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thelast1 said:
Do you boycott grocery stores and produce your own petroleum products as well? With that attitude you would need to produce virtually everything yourself.
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Do grocery stores and gas stations petition the government to force sick people to be only able to buy from them?
Come on now
I've read page after page of you and the other sock defending sick people being taken advantage of.
Stop trying to show Lps as comparable to any other type of business.
They fact that health Canada won't even recognize it's a medicine yet they have all the say is puzzling enough without your help.
Think about both perspectives before dropping your one sided opinions officer chuck
 
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thelast1

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Princess of Pot said:
I have a question for you guys: would any of you ever work at an LP as a grower? I know that There's a lot of big companies that have left a terrible taste in the mouth of all of us patients. But I heard recently that HC is making a mad push to get a lot more licenses issued in preparation for the recreational market. There will be all sorts of new LPs. And I wonder if a bunch of the smaller mom and pop grows will finally get licensed. What do you guys think?
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100% yes.

Who in their right mind wouldn't want to do what they love for a reasonable wage?

It's no easy feat to find well paying horticulture jobs in the Canadian climate, anyone with formal education will likely be lining up once there's recreational and there is a degree of job security.

Now if your CV states your experience with SOP'S as, "grow good shit!" then I'd wager those $12/hr trim positions aren't quite as lucrative.

Plus, I really like the smell.
 
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CannaReview

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Well if I had no job or future plans to work/run a business possibly BUT only if they had deep pockets, had a proper business plan to compensate for the 200+ LP in Canada future and a plan to develop growing methods that pushed hydroponics to new limits. Also would have to be at least $25 per hour for me to make any effort to work there. Also would have to include performance profit sharing.

This is why I never hired anyone at my shop since I can't pay them $25 per hour full time and I'd rather have a well paid employee that will be comfortable with living expenses as that would translate into them wanting to come to work because they liked it and not because they have to just to make ends meet. Mind you $25 per hour is fuck all especially if you have kids.
 
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thelast1

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torontoke said:
Do grocery stores and gas stations petition the government to force sick people to be only able to buy from them?
Come on now
I've read page after page of you and the other sock defending sick people being taken advantage of.
Stop trying to show Lps as comparable to any other type of business.
They fact that health Canada won't even recognize it's a medicine yet they have all the say is puzzling enough without your help.
Think about both perspectives before dropping your one sided opinions officer chuck
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If you understand how cross border parent companies operate and the grocery industry, you'd be much more incensed about the treatment of many thousands of Canadians and the theft of their pensions and greatly reduced wages.

I haven't advocated taking advantage of anyone at any time. Fabricating lies is quite unfortunate and speaks to your character.
 
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