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Chongstar

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Indef, I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around hydro coco for this, mainly because there is NO veg time for clones, so my flower time will be the same hydro or soil. Soil just seems that much simpler to me. I'm afraid to ruin my crop with a simple mistake with delicate hydro. Can you enlighten me on this
 

Chongstar

Member
Indef, I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around hydro coco for this, mainly because there is NO veg time for clones, so my flower time will be the same hydro or soil. Soil just seems that much simpler to me. I'm afraid to ruin my crop with a simple mistake with delicate hydro. Can you enlighten me on this
Not trying to overcomplicate this, just I have trouble advancing, unless I'm confident on the matter. Thank, hope you understand
 

Indefinately

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Not trying to overcomplicate this, just I have trouble advancing, unless I'm confident on the matter. Thank, hope you understand
Have no clue when it comes to soil mate.

Much simpler in my mind to feed the plants "nutrients" and right "ph" water in coco.

Plenty of people grow in soil on here.

I doubt anyone would be doing flood and drain in soil though. Lol
I also doubt they would be doing a : " sea of green" in soil either.

Just doesn't happen
 

justugh

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Hey Justugh,

I'm the one that needs to bitch slapped apparently?
Lol


I have been growing for a while.
I have Found Sea of Green to be the most efficient yield. Allowing more harvest
per year therefore larger yields at a lower light cost due to the Zero Veg.

I know that you can grow and are very knowledgeable , But obviously have no idea about what a Sea Of Green is. How it works. It's pros and cons.
The only Con really is the plant count.

The idea of growing many single cola plants as all side branches are cut continually to allow plants to focus energy on its main stem/stalk.
Allows for great yield and easy work trimming.
With no airy/fluffy under developed bud from light being shadowed or lower branching as per other methods of growing.



Thanks Corey,

Saved me trying to explain it to Justugh.
Had to get myself some ice from that bitchslap and hide in fear of being shot.

Hahaha



Thanks Corey,

Your exactly right.
Well rooted Clones to flower in 8 weeks
By the time someone Veg's for two months ( 8 weeks).
A sea of green would have completed its second harvest.

By far the best way of growing if you are not conscerned with plant count.

Indefinately,

"Let there be Green in 2016 "


I would be highly doubtful that the "thc" levels of the plant are increased by the begging period mate.

They are developed during the flowering process.
Not during vegetation.
I'm no scientist.
But have done allot of reading and am quite sure that your way off.
A strain that " flowers for 8 weeks" will have the same thc as a strain that Vegs for 8 weeks and then flowers for 8 weeks.
If all conditions are identical
The begging period will not effect the THC of a plant!




Hey Chong,

Pot sizes are fine , try to get pots that don't have the holes up so high on the side though.

Al B Fuct had converted to sure to grow as a medium toward the end of his thread.
Before that he was using "Rockwool Floc ", which is basically granulated Rockwool.

I personally used granulated Rockwool at the bottom of each pot ( to cover the holes of the pots) . This ensured I didn't have loose coco through my tray/reservoir/pump.

Try without perlite and then down the track you can try with and see how you feel.
I ended up just doing Coco and Floc at the bottom of each pot.

Don't think it matter if you buy bags or bricks.
What ever works for you.
I bought bags in bulk ( 50 bags at a time ) , so I could get a good bulk discount.

How are your seedlings going?
Show your followers a picture.
Lol

Good luck buddy.

Indefinately
" Let there be Green in 2016 "
still the fact small milk dud buds .......50 plants should be about 25 to 40 lbs of weed not 500 grams

running a plant that small is against everything i have learned .......i know the thc count and terepene lvls are going to be low compared plants with a larger root mass and more time to do the work

cost of a plant per day is about 60 to 90 cents for me .......we will go with the extreme of 1 dollar day
70 days is 70 bucks per plants with only a 10 gram return on the plant ( at 10 bucks a gram low end u are making 30 bucks per plant )
70 days plant i will make 1100 to 1400 profit for the plant 1 plant of a cost of 70 bucks ....that is with the least amount of effort only watering every other day mixing in feed now and then using super soil (allow me to walk away for a few days and have a trusted person water them so i have a life)
 

Indefinately

Well-Known Member
still the fact small milk dud buds .......50 plants should be about 25 to 40 lbs of weed not 500 grams

running a plant that small is against everything i have learned .......i know the thc count and terepene lvls are going to be low compared plants with a larger root mass and more time to do the work

cost of a plant per day is about 60 to 90 cents for me .......we will go with the extreme of 1 dollar day
70 days is 70 bucks per plants with only a 10 gram return on the plant ( at 10 bucks a gram low end u are making 30 bucks per plant )
70 days plant i will make 1100 to 1400 profit for the plant 1 plant of a cost of 70 bucks ....that is with the least amount of effort only watering every other day mixing in feed now and then using super soil (allow me to walk away for a few days and have a trusted person water them so i have a life)
Hey Justugh,

I don't talk dollars and cents like that mate.

I talk grams per what
All yields were for first run, realistic expectation for a new grower.
80 plants at 14 grams a plant is 1120 grams.
Therefore : 1.12 grams per watt

Shit, I was happy with .50 grams per what on my first run.

I was averaging about 21 grams per plant.
Averaged about 80 plants per 1000 watt light.
80 x 21 = 1680g
Therefore : 1.68 grams per watt
Most growers would be happy with that.
3.7 pounds per tray, per 1k light - tray 1m x 2m

With 4 trays and 4 x 1000 watt lights.
You could have 14.8 pounds every 8 weeks.
Plant count of 80 per tray = 320 plants flowering
This method of growing is very scalable and also suitable to a perpetual grow.

Filling one table of 80 plants every two weeks would allow you to harvest a table every two weeks.
So effectively, you would produce 3.7pounds every two weeks. By harvesting a tray and filling it up with clones at the same time. You will have a perpetual grow that is manageable by Spreading out your cloning and manicuring duties. Definitely helps with a larger scale op
Especially when you don't have any "help" to come and water for you.

Yield is up and down
Especially to people new to growing
Sometime it a little higher, sometimes a little lower.
Really depend on how "dialled in" to your op you are.
Consistency with maintenance and good checklist for your environment make the difference.

As far as Thc production,
Trust me, there is no less thc on a plant due to it not being vegged. Thc production is in the flowering cycle.
If you have any literature to direct me to that proved otherwise, I will stand to be corrected.
Otherwise, it's just mambo jumbo.
Simply

I personally dislike the cost per plant rationale.
It simply does not work.
Grams per watt is the only "real effective comparison"

Indefinately
" Let there be Green in 2016 "
 

Indefinately

Well-Known Member
How's the grow going Chongstar?

Your seedling must be well on the way.

No updates?

Indefinately
"Let there be Green in 2016"
 

9leaves

Well-Known Member
One thing I realized in both growing and building PC's, exhaust is far more important than intake. The majority of your air can be passively brought into the room, mostly do to displacement. I would have both inlines for exhaust and let those booster fans be for intake.
I like the negative pressure route as well. I want to note that you need fans to make your plants move in the air. I know make fun of me if I stated the obvious. Really the plants need to be swaying in the wind. Makes stronger plants. Makes them feel like they are outside. Keeps bugs away.
Grow on
 
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