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HydroGp

HydroGp

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WOHd is up hempeople :) A little pictures from whats up lately.. Flowering day 30 is: Lemon Skunk (10L Hempy). Pure Kush (10L Hempy Scrog). Critical kush(5L Hempy). WhitewidowxBigbud(2L Hempy-No veg). Godberry(2L Hempy-No veg). Danish Unknown(2L Hempy-No veg) My Blueberry Headband turned out male.
My first clone succes wohoo. Got me a Lemon Skunk and a Pure Kush.
Bought a new aeroponics propagator and stated up a new batch of 6 autos along my clones. Not quite shure what im gonna do next. Might be a 8 bucket recirc. dwc.
I hope u all are great.
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steeliesteve

steeliesteve

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I may be wrong, but didn't Supchaka try something similar to a smartpot with a saucer? If I remember correctly he didn't like it. I may be wrong, correct me if I am. And as far as hempy scrogs, Stoneslackers is a frickin genious. He does amazing things with a 250w!
 
sky rocket

sky rocket

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Moebius said:
Because much of this is new to me, I'm having to learn and understand every detail of the 2L SOG system.

One of the most important things is obviously providing a high number of clones to feed the system. ... because I had previously grown larger plants and needed fewer clone I had learnt to grow just bonsai moms in small pots, (not good for 2L SOG) . The problem I had come across was that after a couple of cutting runs, the moms would start producing weedy looking branches which = poor clones.

so for anyone considering 2L sog ... please remember decent sized moms in decent pots with good soil.
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You are right about that. Both my moms are huge after only being 3 months old from seed. The down side to this is that they drink so much in 2-3 days that I have to refill the 5 gallon buckets.
Shivaskunk said:
Your plants always look nice and youre a good grower so i dont mean this in any way negatively but if you get 1.4 gpw with minimal to no veg under 600 watters i really do want a step by step grow plan from you dude.

Ive grown in quite a few different scenarios. Small as 400 watts and up to 14000 watts. In soil, in flood tables, in dwc, in NFT, one grow with aeroponics (roots clogged shit and grow sucked), and now hempy style and in a large crop ive never hit 1.4 gpw. Not with a 8 week veg and not no veg SOG.

Im certainly not an elite grower by any means but ive been doing it almost consistently for 16 years. My last run went pretty well aside from a touch of PM and having to eradicate aphids at the nursery stage and I pulled just about exactly 2 lbs off of two 600 watt hps which i suppose is about .75 gpw. The very best run in my two room 14000 watt house not counting really wispy buds and trim we pulled 27 lbs which still wasnt a gram per watt. If i had weighed all the sluffy stuff probably would have added 3 lbs.

I did a grow once with one 1000 hps and i pulled 1087 grams. I re,ember the number because its the best gpw ive ever pulled...even though veg was quite long.

I guess the point of all my typing is....if you pull over 800 grams per 600 light I want to copy your growing style lol. Cheers.
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After I get my feet wet after my first go at hempy sog I'm going to shoot for a realistic goal at 1 gpw on my second, no "f" that I'm going to shoot for 1.3 gpw. With 120 to 128 2l sog under 1200 watts I would have to avg 13 grams per plant. Good genetics also helps too. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's best to just focus on one strain when trying to achieve a good gpw.
 
WyoGrow

WyoGrow

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Moebius said:
Yes it would make it a Hempy of sorts. .. but in effect, I believe it was reported that the 'wicking' action doesnt really take place as well, and, they end up needing constant watering.

That doesnt mean it shouldnt be tried again. It may have just been poor execution of the concept.
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IME the problem isn't "wicking up" with fabric pots. They actually wick moisture up very very well. But the also wick moisture out from the medium into the fabric where it evaporates wayyyyy faster than in a standard pot where the only evap action you have it out the top of the pot and tiny drain holes in the bottom. This very well could have been the cause for the not so happy runs..... but this is pure conjecture on my part. Possibly a setup where a smart pot that fits snug inside a non permeable reservoir container that has the standard drain 2" up but then extends up to cover 2/3's or so of the smart pot would be the sweet spot between breath-ability and excessive evaporation....
 
Moebius

Moebius

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WyoGrow said:
IME the problem isn't "wicking up" with fabric pots. They actually wick moisture up very very well. But the also wick moisture out from the medium into the fabric where it evaporates wayyyyy faster than in a standard pot where the only evap action you have it out the top of the pot and tiny drain holes in the bottom. This very well could have been the cause for the not so happy runs..... but this is pure conjecture on my part. Possibly a setup where a smart pot that fits snug inside a non permeable reservoir container that has the standard drain 2" up but then extends up to cover 2/3's or so of the smart pot would be the sweet spot between breath-ability and excessive evaporation....
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'Conjecture' is what we do best at WOH as it gives food for thought. Well considered hypothesizing is always appreciated! :mrgreen:
 
Moebius

Moebius

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I have a couple of oddities to show WOH today.

First are these goofy looking Lemon Kush. The story with them is that the cutting already had signs of flowering, not much but a few hairs. Anyhow, this is what happens.







 
Moebius

Moebius

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This next one is weird. It's resin blobs on the buds.

The story with this plant is that it has been extremely stressed through underwatering and heat. These blobs of a viscous sticky oil have appeared on this plant. I counted about 10 blobs on a quick look.

I have seen it once before, ages ago, but never online.



 
Moebius

Moebius

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sky rocket said:
After I get my feet wet after my first go at hempy sog I'm going to shoot for a realistic goal at 1 gpw on my second, no "f" that I'm going to shoot for 1.3 gpw. With 120 to 128 2l sog under 1200 watts I would have to avg 13 grams per plant. Good genetics also helps too. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's best to just focus on one strain when trying to achieve a good gpw.
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Hey SR.

I've been following your prep work for your 2L SOG. I think there is a good chance you achieve around the 1.3g/w off the bat. You're correct that good genetics is very important and that a single strain is the way to go when shooting for a high gpw.
 
WyoGrow

WyoGrow

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Another quick question.... was the not so happy results using smart pots due to having to water more often or plant performance??? I wouldn't have an issue watering more if in the end I turned out better plants.....
 
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Mattemil

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Moe...Those blobs were discussed in much detail on grasscity quite some time ago.I will try finding the link as there was a lot of research done.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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Fazer1rlg said:
I tried using perlite/verm in my smart pots at 65/35 ratio and I had nothing but lockouts. My ph would always raise and my plants were completely stunted. I don't understand why either. My ph was between 5.8 And 6.4 but I would always catch it raising into 6.8 and I would have to flush. It was a pain in the ass. I just took those plants out and they went back to dwc. The perlite verm mix only caused me problems. Not as easy as everyone is saying.

any ideas to what happened from all you hempy growers.
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'Fazer1rlg' had smart pot issues. ... he blamed his mix.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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Mattemil said:
Moe...Those blobs were discussed in much detail on grasscity quite some time ago.I will try finding the link as there was a lot of research done.
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What is most bizarre is that the blobs seem like they have appeared from nowhere. they do not look like they have seeped from any pores but just sit there on the bud.

I wonder if it's THC based.
 
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Mattemil

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"its actually sap.

weve had them tested, nothing medicinal

they taste sweet and are cool to chew on. Also happens to our Lemon Skunk, its mostly the timing on when we cut it off the stem that contributes to those globs being present"
 
Moebius

Moebius

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Mattemil said:
"its actually sap.

weve had them tested, nothing medicinal

they taste sweet and are cool to chew on. Also happens to our Lemon Skunk, its mostly the timing on when we cut it off the stem that contributes to those globs being present"
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Oh cool. I thought it was a sap. Almost identical in look and feel to amber sap you sometimes see in trees. I didn't taste it but when my lights come on it's lollipop time.
 
stoneslacker

stoneslacker

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WyoGrow said:
IME the problem isn't "wicking up" with fabric pots. They actually wick moisture up very very well. But the also wick moisture out from the medium into the fabric where it evaporates wayyyyy faster than in a standard pot where the only evap action you have it out the top of the pot and tiny drain holes in the bottom. This very well could have been the cause for the not so happy runs..... but this is pure conjecture on my part. Possibly a setup where a smart pot that fits snug inside a non permeable reservoir container that has the standard drain 2" up but then extends up to cover 2/3's or so of the smart pot would be the sweet spot between breath-ability and excessive evaporation....
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Some people use the fabric pots in a modified hempy system using a rez, pump and feeding ring. The fabric "sock" is placed inside of a bucket, then that bucket is placed inside another bucket with a gravity return system. Check out flowa's method here https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/570843-flowamastas-methodology-how-grow-monster.html it works really well, just more elaborate than a simple hempy bucket. Accomplishes the same thing in keeping the roots nice and oxygenated.


steeliesteve said:
I may be wrong, but didn't Supchaka try something similar to a smartpot with a saucer? If I remember correctly he didn't like it. I may be wrong, correct me if I am. And as far as hempy scrogs, Stoneslackers is a frickin genious. He does amazing things with a 250w!
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Thanks for that vote of confidence man! You know these hempys almost grow themselves. I just try not to eff things up too bad. Here is a pic of the canopy at day 39 of flower.


 

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Moebius

Moebius

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stoneslacker said:
Careful Moe. I hate to take the worst case scenario view but ergot is known to produce a honeydew type sap. Also aphids. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeydew_(secretion) Just be careful before sampling please.
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Thanks man ... I don't think it's insects because I havent seen any and I only see the sap on one plant. .. but I don't know. I don't think it's ergot, Ive not seen it in Cannabis. again not certain.

I do suspect it to be a spontaneous reaction to some stress. I think the overall quality of the bud is a bit lower than the non-stressed plants.

others online have tasted and say it's tastes sweet ... well .. wild-horses couldn't stop me from sampling sweet 'Cannabis sap' if the plant offers it up. lol.
 
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