World Of Hempy

jela10 said:

So, I have another Bozo to share clown suits with...welcome to our Hempy brotherhood Bozo! Actually I'm not much of a clown unless you look at my hair in the morning when I get up. I chose my avatar based on Firesign Theather's "I Think We Are All Bozo's on This Bus" done back in 1971. They are a group of radio guys that did albums of weird skits that only stoners could listen to and understand. The sound effects were simple horns and squeak toys but somehow they made it through to us in our 70's "fog".
www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uMzALKgHI
Anyhow, I'm a hempy convert from the original Dahli Hempy threads over on that other forum and I too jumped into coco after his changeover from perlite/verm. Couldn't be happier but recently out of sheer boredom of automatic/low maintenance grows with hefty yields I'm now growing in "mapito" as Moebius is but on a "trial" bases. I want seriously to bring hempy up to the DWC benchmark and in amidst of a lot of 2L SCROG'ers here I do larger 2gal-3.5gal buckets and grow fewer plants. Still, we all get along really well on this thread and learn a lot from each other. You are in the right place by the looks of your work.

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actually, i was 16 that year so yeah, i remember Firesign Theater very fondly.

here's another blast from that past.

[video=youtube;KTyNBfK8chI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTyNBfK8chI[/video]

peace, bozo

drdank50 said:

Since a lot of us will be finishing up the first round of winter, it would be helpful to sharing curing methods. I've personally just hung them upside down in a dark room for a couple days and then put them in jars where I burp them twice a day for the first week, and only once a day for the second. Would be interesting to hear other methods. Would also love to know how these dispensaries get them some compact in their little tree shape.

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I've tried 24-48 hours darkness before chop but couldn't tell a difference (it's all good), but anymore, for curing reasons, I time a hempy flush to just 5 days...the girls are drinking like fish so 2-feedings of RO water with some Canna "Boost" is all they get in those 5 days. Just when they start getting limp for another feeding I take them down. This seems to cut down the "hay" smell to just a few days before they start coming back to the sweet fruity smell they had when growing. I hang buds on clothes hangers in a closet with a 4" exhaust to the attic, making sure to singulate them from the main cola's no matter how much I want to show off the big honkers. I live in a dry/arid climate so in 4-days the outsides of the buds get crispy fast. They go in jars immediately and I burp them twice a day. With the jar in hand, I take the lid off an act like I'm jerking off an elephant to move fresh air in. I caught another grower friend doing this too so I know now I'm not a pachydermal gay. If I open a jar and the bud feels too moist, it goes back into the open for an hour. I've had some Bubba Kush once that turned into a fuzzy fungus from rushing the drying process, but I can't stand bud that that's been dried to a crisp either. Dry bud it harsh on the hit for me...and coughing is not my favorite thing in life. Come one...you do the elephant too, don't you?

I cant even visualize what the elephant is...

justanotherbozo said:

actually, i was 16 that year so yeah, i remember Firesign Theater very fondly.

here's another blast from that past.

[video=youtube;KTyNBfK8chI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTyNBfK8chI[/video]

peace, bozo

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Wow, that artist's work looks so familiar...did he do the artwork for "Snatch and the Poontangs" from the Johnny Otis show too?

Per Wattsaver's suggestion, last night I went in and trimmed what seemed like half a pound of leaves from both PE's. I worked over a lot of the large fan leaves that were blocking light from other new buds forming. Low and behold I counted 9 tops running into cola formation. I wouldn't even know unless I cleared the jungle....here's hoping my yield tops my personal best @ 4oz/plant.

Here is another interesting hempy-ready medium...1/2" grow cubes (rock-wool). I saw a grow shop video using these in an air-pot with just some hydroton scattered atop to prevent algae. Of course the plant was amazing as would be any advertisement. It does look like you would have enough air separation between cubes that foam or coco bark wouldn't be needed as found in Mapito. No need for perlite in the bottom either. The mapito I'm using now has no perlite res and it is rocking the house and staying disease free. My overflow during feeds is almost crystal clear.

jela10 said:

Here is another interesting hempy-ready medium...1/2" grow cubes (rock-wool). I saw a grow shop video using these in an air-pot with just some hydroton scattered atop to prevent algae. Of course the plant was amazing as would be any advertisement. It does look like you would have enough air separation between cubes that foam or coco bark wouldn't be needed as found in Mapito. No need for perlite in the bottom either. The mapito I'm using now has no perlite res and it is rocking the house and staying disease free. My overflow during feeds is almost crystal clear.
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i was looking into that the other day. I was thinking a bunch of 1x1 cubes could work great. Not sure how cost efficient it would, is it easy to reuse rockwool?

yeah, i'm still a fan of the coco man, it's cheap to buy, easy to find, easy to work with, and easy to re-use, plus, the results are reliable, repeatable and very tasty, lol. ...i'm still dialing in a new space and i've only been growing in the coco for a little over a year but i love the shit!

the way i see it, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

peace, bozo

..oh yeah, lol, jela10 , i can't say for sure but it sure does look like the same hand drew both, ...i think the guy who did the Freak Brothers is named Sheldon or something like that.

hi guys, i had some seeds so decided to give hempy a go, just wondering at what point you remove the lower growth, its cold here so at week 4 of 12/12 there just starting to show sex now, better to take before of just after they flower? there under a 600w all in 2 litre soda bottle "pots"...

ae86 grower said:

hi guys, i had some seeds so decided to give hempy a go, just wondering at what point you remove the lower growth, its cold here so at week 4 of 12/12 there just starting to show sex now, better to take before of just after they flower? there under a 600w all in 2 litre soda bottle "pots"...

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Welcome to W.O.H. Looking good my friend. Just a few questions so we all understand your methods at the moment.

What medium are you using in the hempy?
Week 4 including veg? (Seems a little long to now show sex after 4 weeks of 12/12. Buds tend to be pretty filled in at 4 weeks flower.)
What nutrient regimen are you following?
Are these clones or all seed?
How tall are these right now?
What strain?

in regular compost , week 4 from seed @ 12/12... all same strain from a bag of regs i had ages. there lemmon haze, verified from two other grows useing the same batch of seeds which turned out to be awesome smoke so decided to try them hempy....

there getting bio bloom from biobizz with the odd feed of n to keep them green but only very small amounts, the flower food is at full strenght from last week and there fine so far...

all seed, just about to flower...

there about 8 inchs tall at the minute..

lemmon haze...




i`m irish and the weather here is cold, being a parent i have to grow in my small sged, the box is at the rear of the shed, its a concrete construction with a concrete roof, and the grow box is ply wood..

even tho i have had the cavity filled with insulation its still cold, so for the last two days i have been running lights on with no fan so the temps are fine and they have started to flip, once the males are gone is it too late to trim lower growth after flower, with haze`s they can hermi pretty easy so its a concern...

any advice guys???

ae86 grower said:

in regular compost , week 4 from seed @ 12/12... all same strain from a bag of regs i had ages. there lemmon haze, verified from two other grows useing the same batch of seeds which turned out to be awesome smoke so decided to try them hempy....

there getting bio bloom from biobizz with the odd feed of n to keep them green but only very small amounts, the flower food is at full strenght from last week and there fine so far...

all seed, just about to flower...

there about 8 inchs tall at the minute..

lemmon haze...




i`m irish and the weather here is cold, being a parent i have to grow in my small sged, the box is at the rear of the shed, its a concrete construction with a concrete roof, and the grow box is ply wood..

even tho i have had the cavity filled with insulation its still cold, so for the last two days i have been running lights on with no fan so the temps are fine and they have started to flip, once the males are gone is it too late to trim lower growth after flower, with haze`s they can hermi pretty easy so its a concern...

any advice guys???

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I hear ya on the cold weather. I'm assuming you are out in the country? Do you have a carbon filter in your shed? What are the temps right now with the light on/off? You may look at adding a space heater or portable gas heater to maintain temps with the lights off. On the bright side, cooling the light will be easier

Since it is a haze, sativas tend to fancy warmer temps. Not sure about how easily they hermie. A few pages back, Moebius did a stress test to see how easy it was to hermie a plant and it seems that it's linked to genetical traits. If the strain you have is temperamental, the drift in temps should not be more than 10-15F (not sure of the celsius conversion) Anything colder than 60F tends to cause problems.

i know i need to have a thermo but so far i just haven`t gotten round to it, i have a slight purp on the tips of the newest growth so the cold must have tipped them...

it`ll be after christmas before i could afford a reasonable one, kids got me cleaned out cash wise.. but so far the little box has been a producer, 9oz from 3 plants in 20 litre hempys at 2ft tall last grow, same strain..

i know its the cold thats help them back as they have come on so far so quickly without the fan running, could have sex`d by sunday with a bit of luck, i`ll have to remove the lower growth soon eitherway as they`ll out grow the height i need between plant and light...

For those of us battling the heat vs the cold, you might want to just browse this video:

[h=1]Fresca Sol Water Cooled Lighting: How It Works, And Operates[/h]

ae86 grower said:

i know i need to have a thermo but so far i just haven`t gotten round to it, i have a slight purp on the tips of the newest growth so the cold must have tipped them...

it`ll be after christmas before i could afford a reasonable one, kids got me cleaned out cash wise.. but so far the little box has been a producer, 9oz from 3 plants in 20 litre hempys at 2ft tall last grow, same strain..

i know its the cold thats help them back as they have come on so far so quickly without the fan running, could have sex`d by sunday with a bit of luck, i`ll have to remove the lower growth soon eitherway as they`ll out grow the height i need between plant and light...

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Yea, getting a space heater will be what you want.. Its always easier (and cheaper) to warm a room rather than have to keep it cool. I use a small space heater with a LUX thermostat. The cheap space heater thermostats suck, so the LUX is a Great Addition. Its a little pricey at $30, but in my opinion, worth it, so your not constantly running out to make sure the heater isn't turning the room into an oven.

i had a small oil filled one i loan my dad, and as with family theres not much of a return policy in place hahahaha....

the room is comeing down after this grow so theres no point in me spending on another new one just yet, when it goes back together there will be big changes, i`ll have a much bigger space to grow in same construction but larger to allow a hempy and a scrog side by side along with a veg box ...

i`ll get a second hand electrical heater tho rusty as you said, should pick one up in a charity shop and will do for now..cheap too....

at what stage should i remove the lower branchs etc, if herming isn`t an issue, and i`ve cropped and topped this strain so its not a top worry but there`s always a first time right....

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i had a small oil filled one i loan my dad, and as with family theres not much of a return policy in place hahahaha....

the room is comeing down after this grow so theres no point in me spending on another new one just yet, when it goes back together there will be big changes, i`ll have a much bigger space to grow in same construction but larger to allow a hempy and a scrog side by side along with a veg box ...

i`ll get a second hand electrical heater tho rusty as you said, should pick one up in a charity shop and will do for now..cheap too....

at what stage should i remove the lower branchs etc, if herming isn`t an issue, and i`ve cropped and topped this strain so its not a top worry but there`s always a first time right....

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regular seeds / 4 weeks @ 12:12 / about 5 weeks to go.

why do you want to remove lower branches? Are you planning on 'lollipopping'? or

If you're just talking about tidying up some scrawny, immature lower twigs, you're probably good to go.

Its a bit tricky to say without seeing the plant.

lights out at the minute, but i`ll get some closer pic`s tomorrow of some individuals...

as for the trimming its just so as to focus the plant on the cola`s, not sure tho this is why i`m asking, its like a crossroads if you will moebius, so far i`ve been happy with big pots and the hempy worked well, but with the smaller plants even under a 600w i wasn`t sure cropping etc would be worth it, would it be the better road to go down or lollipop them...

need this grow to pay off as i`ll be down for awhile and by the time i have mothers vegged up large enough to take 50 or so clones it`ll be some time in the new year...

and the jars are just about empty now, don`t mind the 5/6 weeks wait, just want to get the most from them..

ae86 grower said:

lights out at the minute, but i`ll get some closer pic`s tomorrow of some individuals...

as for the trimming its just so as to focus the plant on the cola`s, not sure tho this is why i`m asking, its like a crossroads if you will moebius, so far i`ve been happy with big pots and the hempy worked well, but with the smaller plants even under a 600w i wasn`t sure cropping etc would be worth it, would it be the better road to go down or lollipop them...

need this grow to pay off as i`ll be down for awhile and by the time i have mothers vegged up large enough to take 50 or so clones it`ll be some time in the new year...

and the jars are just about empty now, don`t mind the 5/6 weeks wait, just want to get the most from them..

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I hear you better than you know.

I got rid of my mom stock due to some BS, i'm in the process of building up my stock of moms right now. I had to do some plants from seed just to keep me in the game, luckily I timed it just right for Christmas.

Please people correct me if im wrong. ..... Lollipopping is different from training/super cropping/main lining.

Lollipopping, or trimming lower branches is about increasing ventilation flowing at the bottom of a plant and keeping it neat and manageable. Some also claim it helps the plant focus its 'energy'. If you want to tidy by trimming the most useless twigs, that may be OK. Just don't go crazy. I generally leave the plant until I'm familiar with it.

Fimming/Super Cropping/ mainlining are all techniques to increase bud sites. .... I wouldnt advise experimenting with these if youre not 100% au fait with it all. ... Anyway you're too late @4weeks bloom

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If you NEED to maximize this crop, I would concentrate on the feed, light profile and ventilation.

guess i`m just stuck with what i can do for this run, lollipopping is something i`ve never done supercropping i`m familiar with, trouble there is it adds a week or so to the grow as the plant needs to recover, some recover faster even a day later but i`d have to factor in an extra week and i`m time poor as the deadline is the deadline for the room to come down...

so even in the 2litre pots you think they can sustain a "full" plant and not get root bound or def in major ways? again i ask from ignorance fellas, there so many things to consider with getting to the end.

as for feed the bio bloom is fine been useing it with success for ages now, light ... well thats set with a 600w and gull wing type reflector, ventilation is passive with just a 10inch fan moveing air...