World Of Hempy

TWS

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Anyone ran liquid orgains or teas in hempy

IMHO you are defeating the purpose of using Hempys and hydro if you are wanting to do organics . might as well run soil for that point. Im not sure if organics wouldn't cause root rot or bacteria either in a rez. I know in DWC it's a no no . All so with out the soil for microbe life to be abundant and break down the organic material .
With that said I do add ACCT tea ( heinsberg ) every once in awhile to keep my roots healthy and the plants take well to it and aids in growth . With out soil and feeding the microbe herd they need to be replenished .
 
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Sire Killem All

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I was just looking for a new mmethod throwing out 200 gallons of ProMix every couple months is not fun but I still have almost a thousand dollars worth of nectar of the gods so I guess I'll have to finish running it before I convert to hemPy
 

Javadog

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Yup, you were spot on....or spot nearby...an Actively Aerated Compost Tea

:0)

JD

P.S. I need to set up my barrel and bubbler+waterfall, but it is too cold right now.
 
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gr865

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I started using teas, organics, EM1 and other non conforming, lol, methods in my last 20 yrs in the golf biz. Big believer in building the soil, healthy soil, healthy roots, healthy plant.

I used AACT in my first soil grow, but I agree with TWS that I would be concerned that using them strictly would cause a bio problem in the root zone and the rez.
I have not tried tea at all since I switched to Hempy's, I am not sure of the survival rate of the microbes if trying to use tea with the fert formulas used in Hempy growth.

GR
 

Javadog

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Agreed...I had read that, tho I have not grown hydro yet.

When it came to microbes and hydro, I had heard of lacto-bacillus
being used to clean roots being attacked by rot.

Good luck,

JD
 

gr865

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Agreed...I had read that, tho I have not grown hydro yet.

When it came to microbes and hydro, I had heard of lacto-bacillus
being used to clean roots being attacked by rot.

Good luck,

JD
JD,
Lactobacillus strains are the main microbes in EM1. It is a great product, the US has not really come to the many benefits of EM1 but I have used it an it works. Check it out online at http://www.teraganix.com/Default.asp.
I would brew 55 to 110 gallons at a time for use on my golf courses.

No experience using it in Hydro, soil only. I still use it in my garden, yard, flower beds and my soil grow with Subcool's Querkle. I added it to my nute water, that was an organic grow.

GR
 

TWS

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They work in Hydro, you just have to replenish them, not feed them. .They probably work great in Coco hempy. They work in DWC . There are many products made just for hydro . Kangaroots, Greatwhite , aquashield/hydroguard etc . But making compost tea cost less and is stronger.
Try some , you'll like it.:razz:
 

gr865

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They work in Hydro, you just have to replenish them, not feed them. .They probably work great in Coco hempy. They work in DWC . There are many products made just for hydro . Kangaroots, Greatwhite , aquashield/hydroguard etc . But making compost tea cost less and is stronger.
Try some , you'll like it.:razz:
The only problem I see is that you will have to water with the Tea daily, AACT is only good for 24 hrs. So that means watering daily. I was making 250 or 500 gallons when I made it for my courses. I would inject it into you irrigation system for the whole course or make up a spray tank, 500 gallons and drinch my greens with the products, be it either AACT or EM1.
The main things I notice using the teas was the increase in root mass and consistant color of the turf. When injected into the irrigation system and treating the whole course I noticed that area that were prone to standing water or wet areas dissappered, areas where the irrigation was marginal that the turf in those areas greened up and the turf thickened up.
So, it would seem logical that using it on cannabis will increase root growth and more roots a more healthier plant.
The only problem with most areas of the country is finding a quality compost that has been tested. You can damage you plants with a compost that has not been made well.

GR
 

TWS

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I believe in the DWC thread you are to replace them every three days. In a hempy they might live longer or until they eat all the dead root as food or eat themselves. Guys using liquid karma might keep them alive longer. I can keep my tea in the fridge for 10 days safely.

Question ? what kind of water did you guys inject them microbes into ? city / tap warer ?
 

gr865

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I believe in the DWC thread you are to replace them every three days. In a hempy they might live longer or until they eat all the dead root as food or eat themselves. Guys using liquid karma might keep them alive longer. I can keep my tea in the fridge for 10 days safely.

Question ? what kind of water did you guys inject them microbes into ? city / tap warer ?
TWS,
We used pH'ed treated well water, I used a sulphur generator and injected the liquid sulphur into the irrigation pond to keep my ph in the 6.5 to 7 range. We pumped water from this pond for watering the course.
I installed a new irrigation system at the club I was at before I retired, it was state of the art for water management, distribution and computer controlled. Hell I could sit at home and operate my system. Incorporated into that system was a state of the art Fertigation system which allow me to basically spoon feed the turfgrass, by need and location. So injecting the compost tea at a rate of two to 5 gallon/acre of AACT was very easy to treat the entire course. I also used a 500 gallon tank we would fill with lake water and add 10 gallons of AACT an sprayed the greens extra, that gave me approx 5 gallons of of tea to the ac.
What I saw from those treatment is why I say you should use AACT but my suggestion would be to do a good flush with ph'ed water and AACT. After you have finished the flush, drain the rez and refill with straight AACT. I would not let that set more than 24 hrs as without continuing feeding and aeration the microbes will die and that can create problem.
When my current grow reaches the rez and gets 4 to 6 nodes I will start a program of every two week tea apps, which I will do as explained above. after 20 hrs or so I will flush the remaining liquid and microbes (mostly dead by that point) from the bucket. I know this sounds like a lot of work but folks you don't want biofilm to form in your rez.

For anyone wanting to learn more about compost and compost teas visit,
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/Home_Page.html

In the early 90's I attended the Soil Food Web seminars on biology (the Soil Food Web), compost, compost teas, and microscope usage. I have done some consulting with organic farmers in NorCal on both compost and teas also on the use of EM1 in agriculture. Just spoke to one of them the other day seeking info on a golf course he is a member of, and he said he is now using EM1 on all of his crops (24 different veggies and fruits), over 1200 acres of organic farm, damn cool I think. When I lived out there he would give me boxes and allow me to go pick as much organic canning tomatoes I wanted, the last pick was 250 lbs. That was a nice treat.

Sorry for the rambling but just smoked some of my latest grow, the CC/BBGA (Cotton Candy female/Blackberry, Grape Ape male). I love new grows, LOL.

Peace out and Happy New Year to y'all,

GR
 

Moebius

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Happy New Year Moe.....so glad to see you back in the saddle
+++rep

cheers
Indoor Sun King
Cheers Man .. Looks like they did away with the rep system LOL . Newcomers to RIU will be baffled by the +++rep.

Yep, back in the saddle, nervous as hell. but needing the bud. .. I'm procrastinating about uploading pics atm just in case the wrong people are focusing on lil old me. .. I will at some point though.

Hope you're good and growing nice dank. peace.
 

TWS

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TWS,
We used pH'ed treated well water, I used a sulphur generator and injected the liquid sulphur into the irrigation pond to keep my ph in the 6.5 to 7 range. We pumped water from this pond for watering the course.
I installed a new irrigation system at the club I was at before I retired, it was state of the art for water management, distribution and computer controlled. Hell I could sit at home and operate my system. Incorporated into that system was a state of the art Fertigation system which allow me to basically spoon feed the turfgrass, by need and location. So injecting the compost tea at a rate of two to 5 gallon/acre of AACT was very easy to treat the entire course. I also used a 500 gallon tank we would fill with lake water and add 10 gallons of AACT an sprayed the greens extra, that gave me approx 5 gallons of of tea to the ac.
What I saw from those treatment is why I say you should use AACT but my suggestion would be to do a good flush with ph'ed water and AACT. After you have finished the flush, drain the rez and refill with straight AACT. I would not let that set more than 24 hrs as without continuing feeding and aeration the microbes will die and that can create problem.
When my current grow reaches the rez and gets 4 to 6 nodes I will start a program of every two week tea apps, which I will do as explained above. after 20 hrs or so I will flush the remaining liquid and microbes (mostly dead by that point) from the bucket. I know this sounds like a lot of work but folks you don't want biofilm to form in your rez.

For anyone wanting to learn more about compost and compost teas visit,
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/Home_Page.html

In the early 90's I attended the Soil Food Web seminars on biology (the Soil Food Web), compost, compost teas, and microscope usage. I have done some consulting with organic farmers in NorCal on both compost and teas also on the use of EM1 in agriculture. Just spoke to one of them the other day seeking info on a golf course he is a member of, and he said he is now using EM1 on all of his crops (24 different veggies and fruits), over 1200 acres of organic farm, damn cool I think. When I lived out there he would give me boxes and allow me to go pick as much organic canning tomatoes I wanted, the last pick was 250 lbs. That was a nice treat.

Sorry for the rambling but just smoked some of my latest grow, the CC/BBGA (Cotton Candy female/Blackberry, Grape Ape male). I love new grows, LOL.

Peace out and Happy New Year to y'all,

GR
Very interesting and this has come along ways. I have seen land scaping companies offer kinda like the same thing.
 

ISK

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Cheers Man .. Looks like they did away with the rep system LOL . Newcomers to RIU will be baffled by the +++rep.

Yep, back in the saddle, nervous as hell. but needing the bud. .. I'm procrastinating about uploading pics atm just in case the wrong people are focusing on lil old me. .. I will at some point though.

Hope you're good and growing nice dank. peace.
I'm just so happy to see you back on RIU....several of us have been so concerned about your situation.....I really hope all can return to normal in the near future,,,God bless my friend
 

Javadog

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Cheers Man .. Looks like they did away with the rep system LOL . Newcomers to RIU will be baffled by the +++rep.

Yep, back in the saddle, nervous as hell. but needing the bud. .. I'm procrastinating about uploading pics atm just in case the wrong people are focusing on lil old me. .. I will at some point though.

Hope you're good and growing nice dank. peace.
Mo, If you need to re-create yourself then just IM people here.

I am glad that you are here, but more-so that you are happy.

JD
 

Moebius

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Mo, If you need to re-create yourself then just IM people here.

I am glad that you are here, but more-so that you are happy.

JD
Thanks dude .. I think I may need to do that, no point hanging onto this Avatar/Username and risking whatever. Guess I'm holding off doing this and becoming a newbie again. People tend not to trash talk with me because they've seen me around for a while. LOL.

I really appreciate the kind words and I'll take your advice for next week. peace.
 
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