wireing ??

Could use some advice on wiring up new grow room.

going to be using 3 Quantum Series Lighting DHID 600w Digital Ballast I want to power them with 240v. Each will be on a separate timers. will also be running all the other goodies pumps, fans, co2, 1 t5 8 bulb and maybe a small heater and humidifier. hears my ? I have a 220 outlet for the drier directly above grow room that is not being used. our drier is running on gas. i want to come off that breaker and bring it down to the room to run the lights will this one breaker run all three lights? and is there a way to run all the 120 equiment all on that one curcuit? or do i have to have a seprate curcuit for the 220 and 120? does that make any seince.. can i put in some kind of converter in the room from that 220 line and run both my light and 120 stuff? or im i HIGH?? and completely confused...what would i need to do this? be nice ! im already on info OVER LOAD !!!!

You need to figure out the amperage for all the stuff you are running and go to the electrical panel and see what the amperage is for the breaker you want to use. I will guess it to be about 30 amps. Digital ballasts are very effecient so if you wire 3 seperate plug ins you should not have to much trouble with power. It is very easy to go from 240 to 120. When you open up the outlet you should see 4 wires, black, white, red, green or bare. the black is a 120 volt circuit, the red is a 120 volt curcuit, the white is neutral , the green or bare wire is ground. If you have 3 wires than the black and white are both hot the 3rd wire is ground. there is no neutral. Simply run a regular 12 gauge romex wire into your 240 volt box, hook black to black, white to white, ground to ground. Your only using one side of the 240 circuit hence you get 120. You are however still bound to the laws of amperage.

Once you start adding heaters and all the other big ticket 120 volt goodies you could have problems. I would bet this one outlet will run the basics. Lights, pumps, fans. Those little space heaters use alot of amperage to get going so it could be a problem. What i do is use temperature fan controller, this little gadget shuts off your exhuast fan allowing you to use the lamps heat to heat the room, when the temp reaches you set point it turns on the fan cooling down about 5 derees then it shuts the fan off again. You save money twice. The unit costs about 50 or 60 bucks.

Thanks for the quick response. i dont know yet how many amps it will all end up being. stuff all on order. just trying to plan ahead a bit. been looking and reading so much stuf the past 3-4 weeks. i could be ordering the stuff for a swiming pool, for all i know at this point ! so damn many options out there on controler ect.. ect.. ect.. have to stop and burn one just to keep out of the padded ROOM ! do you know what an average 600w uses? guessing around 9-10 amps?

Go to this web site and use the easy conversion tool to figure amperage. http://www.raylucke.com/20010926/tools/amps.phtml According to this a 600 watt light running at 240 volts uses about 2.5 amps. So your one circuit wired right might run all your stuff.

O sure more damn Controllers hahahaha !! do you have a link to one of those baby's? I am looking for that kind of control for sure. hoping i won't need a heater, rooms in basment bellow ground leval so im hoping it wont get sub Zero anyway. I am hoping the lights will heat the room to proper levals

if you're looking for a quality, reasonably priced controller, check out sentinel. i especially like them because of the internal battery back-up, in case of power outages. the best prices i've seen are on e-bay.

Go to this page. http://www.midwesthydroponics.com/products/hydro_products.asp?category=130 Scroll down about 3/4 of the page. This unit doesnt use shit for electricity just saves it.

3-600 watt lights will definately heat your space.

I've been looking at these, kinda pricey. just wish for that price you could control more than one environment at once. you can find them cheeper around $550 but still if you want 3 enviroments $$$$

• Sentinel has made controlling temperature, humidity and CO2 PPM levels easy and affordable. The CHHC-1 combines an accurate digital temperature & humidity sensor with a state of the art NDIR CO2 sensor in one reliable and easy to use controller. By controlling supplemental CO2 with PPM (part-per-million) accuracy, plant growth can be accelerated by as much as 30%. The CHHC-1 has been designed to maintain a specific CO2 level. The user can select “Fuzzy-logic” mode when using compressed CO2 or switch the mode to On / Off when using a gas-fired CO2 generator. Increasing the CO2 from normal atmospheric level of 375 PPM to between 1250 PPM by using either compressed CO2 or operating a combustible gas CO2 generator has never been easier. The CHHC-1 measures the carbon dioxide level and automatically turns ON and OFF the CO2 device to accurately keep the CO2 level at the desired level. The combination remote sensor assembly is also a great feature that allows the user to place the sensor up to 16 ft from the controller. The combo-probe contains a highly accurate temperature, humidity, light and CO2 sensor. The sensors are enclosed in a shielded body and use high-quality shielded wiring to resist electronic noise from electronic ballasts or other EMI / EFI noise sources.
  The CHHC-1 controls every environmental condition. Cooling, Heating, Humidification and CO2 are all coordinated into one easy-to-use and reliable controller. Separate Day and Night settings. Select Fuzzy-logic mode or change to Generator mode when using a CO2 generator. The combination Temperature, Humidity, CO2 and Light sensor assembly allows the user to place the sensor up to 16 ft from the main controller. 15-amps @ 120-volts
  The CHHC-1 controls all of your growing area conditions accurately & reliably. First of all, it has all the CO2 control features of the CPPM-1. It also has the ability to control 3 other devices, a cooling device, a heating device and a humidity device. This controller is simple to use. You can set separate day and night temperature settings as well as humidity settings. Records the min and max temperature, humidity and CO2 levels. Unlike some CO2 controllers, the CHHC-1 is able to be calibrated by the user with our "self calibration feature.
• All the features of the CPPM-1 with the ability to control 3 other devices, a heating device. a cooling device and a humidity device
• Set separate day and night temperature settings and humidity settings
• Records the minimum and maximum temperature, humidity and CO2 levels
• Self calibration feature allows the user to calibrate the controller.
• Has 2 separate outputs to control cooling and heating
• Can increase or decrease the amount of humidity in the growing area
• Controls carbon dioxide with Part Per Million accuracy
• Remote Temperature humidity, CO2 and light level sensor can be positioned inside the grow area and the CHHC-1 outside of the area
• Comes with 15 ft cable

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Manufacturer's Product Information 2007 MSRP Each $649.95
Note: Sentinel sets the price for all authorized resellers.

that's on e-bay for 514.00.

sounds good ! control co2 levels to ppm in conjunction with lights and fans. record high, low temps. I've ran across some that have all the outlets and sensors that networked to geather via. regular phone line cable really small too. then the whole thing hooks up to your PC for all data recording and timer controls ect. web cams text alerts for equipment alarms. look like cheep little units.. but damn!$$$$$$

will have 2 tents i would really like to have one running on. x2 then your still right up over a grand for them...

hey just found this little unit looks like it just might suit my needs. wish it was clear on the timer. not sure if it will time each outlet seperate or what?

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Code: 734057
Price: $299.99
Shipping Weight: 15.00 pounds
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POWER CORD:

• 1 - 30 Amp Dryer Cord

BREAKERS:

• 1 - 20 Amp Breaker 240 volt

• 1 - 10 Amp Breaker 120 volt

RECEPTACLES:

• 4 - 240 volt Receptacles (supplies up to 4 - 1000 watt light systems)

• 2 - 120 volt Receptacles (supplies ac ces so ries such as fans or light mov ers)

DIGITAL TIMER:

• 7-Day Digital Timer

• 42 Weekly ON/OFF Settings

• 6 Daily ON/OFF Settings

• Manual Override

• Battery Back-up

This unit allows the user to run up to 4 - 1000 watt light systems and up to 10 amps of accessories from the same timer. An inline fuse protects the timer. Internally, the timer operates a contactor to control the power supply to the receptacles.
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just check the amps on the dryier breaker and just plug right in to the dryier outlet.. done ! As long as the cord is long enough???

You could make your own unit like that for about $50

Ya might go, that way still trying to get a handle on what my amp needs will be. and number of devices

You can grab a 50 dollar Intermatic timer and just wire a dryer cord onto it, and some 240v outlets... Then all the lights will be on the 240v and you use what 120 you have for the pumps, heaters, fans etc.....

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=intermatic+timer&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=16407487185753216184&ei=RWxYTJqeGob6swOc4cCzCw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=image&resnum=4&ved=0CE4Q8gIwAw#

There is a link. Although the product you have there sounds pretty ideal, all though all can be done DIY......

dryers are typically on a 30 amp breaker, if its bigger, make sure the wire is rated at the appropriate size.....