Window mounted AC unit in non enclosed grow room, where do I put the AC unit?

Mike1980

New Member
First time set up, pardon my ignorance. ;)
SETUP:
I have a 9' wide, 12.5' L, 8.5' H flower room.
It's in a fairly cold portion of my house and I live in the northern western Oregon region.
Winter extremes, high's in the 30's low's in the 20's.
Summer extremes, high's in the 90's at times, low's in the 60's.
I will be bringing in fresh air with an inline duct fan and exhausting with a carbon filter.
Thermocore T1-WAC-12HCP 12,000 BTU Window Air Conditioner, Heat Pump and Heater w/Remote, 4 Fan Speed, 4-way Directional Louvers, Loss of Power Protection w/ Auto-restart, 24 Hour Timer, 220V AC.
I currently have four 220 V outlets on the wall, I plan to run HPS light fixtures at 600 watts each.
I have a dehumidifier and two oscillating fans.
The plants will be on a 4 x 8 piece of metal platform, raised about six inches.
PROBLEM:
I have a window mounted AC that I need to have installed very soon, by Tu, 12/13/16. I know someone who can professionally install it but I will need a licensed electrician to wire it and add two more 220V outlets.
Herein lies the problem yo. I don't know where to put the AC unit, that is what part of the room -and additionally- I don't know at what height. The carpenter will cut through the side of the house, so half the unit will be sticking outdoors and half will be inside the grow room. I was told that by having the AC unit not directly inside the room, as the unit itself produces a lot of heat, this will reduce the amount of heat in the room.
This is where the pictures are helpful! If you look just below the shelving with the ballast on it, you'll notice a larger grey metal box, that's my control timer...or whatever it's called. To provide a frame of reference, we'll call the open wall that is closest to that location, we will call The Left. The other side, is closest to where there's a metal electrical outlet and it's the side that's -further- from that larger grey metal box (the larger grey metal box is called the control timer), we will call The Right. The wall that faces the outside, and, the wall where the unit will be installed - is on the side where you see the shelving with the ballast on it.
I was told the following, which could be accurate or someone who thinks they know what they're talking about: The AC air should -not- hit the plants directly. The AC air should hit at or near the grow lights.

SUMMARY OF PROBLEM:
However, I still don't know which side of the wall the AC unit should go, The Left or The Right. I've had five people tell me the The Left and I've had four people tell me The Right.
Also, nobody has been able to answer my query about the height. I'm planning to do the Low Stress Training and SCROG method. So, that means these plants will have height, but I'll be emphasize the width.
I'm guessing the bottom of the AC unit should be five feet, or higher... I have a remote control so I'm not worried about it being too high.
My objectives: I don't want to hit the plants with the AC air directly, I do want to cool down my lights if feasible, and I want to place the AC unit on the correct side and height so it's working efficiently.

MY QUESTIONS:
What side should I place the AC unit on, The Left or The Right?
What height should the bottom of the AC unit be at exactly?
Do you have any other basic advice regarding the heating and cooling of this grow room?
BONUS QUESTIONS (helpful, but not essential -please see the drawing):
How should on set up the ducting?
Take the intake fan, add a piece of ducting to my first light, then connect
to my second, and my third?
I have a carbon filter on the ground that nearest the third light, the third light is closest to the door and the Exhaust end. The carbon filter is on the ground at that end and then the ducting goes to the fan, and then directly up to the attic and outside. So, after the third light, where should my ducting go?

Despite the attempt to put in as many details as possible, I may have forgot something, please ask me any clarifying questions you might have. I'll try to answer them. Thank you!

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Alienwidow

Well-Known Member
I would think with the room being so narrow, im also picturing that you want it on the long wall? Anyway, since its narrow id have it up at the high side of the wall so if its a hard blower which it sounds like, you dont want it blowing on the plants or youll get wind burn. So higher blowing on the lights.

If im way off on this its because you wrote a book. Can you make the question two sentences. We can see the pics.
 

bottletoke

Well-Known Member
First time set up, pardon my ignorance. ;)
SETUP:
I have a 9' wide, 12.5' L, 8.5' H flower room.
It's in a fairly cold portion of my house and I live in the northern western Oregon region.
Winter extremes, high's in the 30's low's in the 20's.
Summer extremes, high's in the 90's at times, low's in the 60's.
I will be bringing in fresh air with an inline duct fan and exhausting with a carbon filter.
Thermocore T1-WAC-12HCP 12,000 BTU Window Air Conditioner, Heat Pump and Heater w/Remote, 4 Fan Speed, 4-way Directional Louvers, Loss of Power Protection w/ Auto-restart, 24 Hour Timer, 220V AC.
I currently have four 220 V outlets on the wall, I plan to run HPS light fixtures at 600 watts each.
I have a dehumidifier and two oscillating fans.
The plants will be on a 4 x 8 piece of metal platform, raised about six inches.
PROBLEM:
I have a window mounted AC that I need to have installed very soon, by Tu, 12/13/16. I know someone who can professionally install it but I will need a licensed electrician to wire it and add two more 220V outlets.
Herein lies the problem yo. I don't know where to put the AC unit, that is what part of the room -and additionally- I don't know at what height. The carpenter will cut through the side of the house, so half the unit will be sticking outdoors and half will be inside the grow room. I was told that by having the AC unit not directly inside the room, as the unit itself produces a lot of heat, this will reduce the amount of heat in the room.
This is where the pictures are helpful! If you look just below the shelving with the ballast on it, you'll notice a larger grey metal box, that's my control timer...or whatever it's called. To provide a frame of reference, we'll call the open wall that is closest to that location, we will call The Left. The other side, is closest to where there's a metal electrical outlet and it's the side that's -further- from that larger grey metal box (the larger grey metal box is called the control timer), we will call The Right. The wall that faces the outside, and, the wall where the unit will be installed - is on the side where you see the shelving with the ballast on it.
I was told the following, which could be accurate or someone who thinks they know what they're talking about: The AC air should -not- hit the plants directly. The AC air should hit at or near the grow lights.

SUMMARY OF PROBLEM:
However, I still don't know which side of the wall the AC unit should go, The Left or The Right. I've had five people tell me the The Left and I've had four people tell me The Right.
Also, nobody has been able to answer my query about the height. I'm planning to do the Low Stress Training and SCROG method. So, that means these plants will have height, but I'll be emphasize the width.
I'm guessing the bottom of the AC unit should be five feet, or higher... I have a remote control so I'm not worried about it being too high.
My objectives: I don't want to hit the plants with the AC air directly, I do want to cool down my lights if feasible, and I want to place the AC unit on the correct side and height so it's working efficiently.

MY QUESTIONS:
What side should I place the AC unit on, The Left or The Right?
What height should the bottom of the AC unit be at exactly?
Do you have any other basic advice regarding the heating and cooling of this grow room?
BONUS QUESTIONS (helpful, but not essential -please see the drawing):
How should on set up the ducting?
Take the intake fan, add a piece of ducting to my first light, then connect
to my second, and my third?
I have a carbon filter on the ground that nearest the third light, the third light is closest to the door and the Exhaust end. The carbon filter is on the ground at that end and then the ducting goes to the fan, and then directly up to the attic and outside. So, after the third light, where should my ducting go?

Despite the attempt to put in as many details as possible, I may have forgot something, please ask me any clarifying questions you might have. I'll try to answer them. Thank you!

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Too many words, made my head hurt!
Anyway I got as far as the ac and where to have it "blowing", that's when your novel of a post exhausted me.
Anyway you don't want the cold air blowing on your lamps, it will dim them.
Aim your vent towards a fan or above your canopy, keep it away from your plants, roots and lights.
 

Mike1980

New Member
I would think with the room being so narrow, im also picturing that you want it on the long wall? Anyway, since its narrow id have it up at the high side of the wall so if its a hard blower which it sounds like, you dont want it blowing on the plants or youll get wind burn. So higher blowing on the lights.

If im way off on this its because you wrote a book. Can you make the question two sentences. We can see the pics.

Sorry my post was so long
Thank you, thus helps.
 

Mike1980

New Member
Too many words, made my head hurt!
Anyway I got as far as the ac and where to have it "blowing", that's when your novel of a post exhausted me.
Anyway you don't want the cold air blowing on your lamps, it will dim them.
Aim your vent towards a fan or above your canopy, keep it away from your plants, roots and lights.

Sorry my post was so long
Thank you, this helps a lot.
 

Alienwidow

Well-Known Member
Too many words, made my head hurt!
Anyway I got as far as the ac and where to have it "blowing", that's when your novel of a post exhausted me.
Anyway you don't want the cold air blowing on your lamps, it will dim them.
Aim your vent towards a fan or above your canopy, keep it away from your plants, roots and lights.
Ie never heard this before. That the ac will dim the lamps. Is there a company rep or instruction manual that youre getting this data from, or is it something that youve heard second hand?
 

Alienwidow

Well-Known Member
I love how none of us read the post because its too long, typical stoners.
Lol, its not because its too long, its because people post all the dimentions and individual elements of the grow. Usually what the op writes isnt what others visualize. Its kinda counter productive to read it sometimes. :):):)
 

Aeroknow

Well-Known Member
I would say just mount that window banger thru wall as high as you can. It's the most efficient that way.
You want the hottest air to be sucked into the return grill, to than be pulled down in temp.
Blowing on lamps? I never heard of that hurting single ended bulbs. Def supposed to fuck with DE bulbs though.
Put that ac up as high as you can, and it prob wouldn't be blowing onto the bulbs anyways.
 
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