Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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mooray

Well-Known Member
You should be a therapist lol. You ask a lot of leading questions.

I drove from Seattle to Santa Cruz on a motorcycle in 2-days once. It was dangerous. I didn't study up on the specific risks ahead of time. It wasn't the best decision I've ever made. It was risky. I was younger and stupider then.
Just chasing it down hoping at some point you'll see that you're not consistent, because it's simply not possible to be when taking issue with one in a million risk. There has to be another element in your risk assessment formula that you haven't brought up yet, but don't worry, I don't have much more motivation left.

Would you say you're a motorcyclist? I've been riding for over thirty years and one thing I can tell you is, no motorcyclist refers to it as driving, but maybe it was just a time where a friend talked you into it or something.

Regardless, it was a great decision *in hindsight*, even though you took on extra risk. I hope you don't have the opposite feeling someday about yourself, or someone you care about, with regard to Covid and vaccinations.
 

HaroldRocks

Well-Known Member
You should be a therapist lol. You ask a lot of leading questions.

I drove from Seattle to Santa Cruz on a motorcycle in 2-days once. It was dangerous. I didn't study up on the specific risks ahead of time. It wasn't the best decision I've ever made. It was risky. I was younger and stupider then.
Yea he likes to tell me when i post things that might not be the right thing to post but he never corrects his cyberfriends who make the same type of posts

but yea man - thats a great ride

i visit some friends in Humboldt and get off I-5 by Grants Pass and take 199 to 101 to Arcata/Eureka/ and sometimes i head to Willow Creek

Beautiful out there
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
Yea he likes to tell me when i post things that might not be the right thing to post but he never corrects his cyberfriends who make the same type of posts

but yea man - thats a great ride

i visit some friends in Humboldt and get off I-5 by Grants Pass and take 199 to 101 to Arcata/Eureka/ and sometimes i head to Willow Creek

Beautiful out there
I usually say my piece once or twice and call it. You've gone into full on name calling mode in over a dozen posts and did I keep at it with ya? I don't do the same with the others either.
 

HaroldRocks

Well-Known Member
I usually say my piece once or twice and call it. You've gone into full on name calling mode in over a dozen posts and did I keep at it with ya? I don't do the same with the others either.

ya know why i did that right?

because they did it to me for about 100 posts before i shot back

and i got flagged for it but they didn't....amazing isn't it

i don't blame you for not saying anything to me about it either

it was a good call - that's why i like you
 

puffdatchronic

Well-Known Member
Things like pcr tests being inaccurate , the low death rates, the miniscule chance of dying for a normal healthy adult, the lack of long term health consequence data on the vaccines, the OTT censorship and propaganda campaign. coupled with the confirmation of 'conspiracy theories' coming out as facts (vaccine passports , micro chipping) .

To me it looks and feels staged . This is no pandemic the figures refute that.

The plan all along was to start this bs. Lockdown and make everyone crazy then have the miracle cure all lined up with people begging to take it

So its a no. ..and i find it absolutely unbelievable, astonishing, that so many people are happy to take a Mrna altering ,experimental drug. I wouldn't let the govt play with my genetic code if it was going to save me from a bullet in the head.
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
Yea he likes to tell me when i post things that might not be the right thing to post but he never corrects his cyberfriends who make the same type of posts

but yea man - thats a great ride

i visit some friends in Humboldt and get off I-5 by Grants Pass and take 199 to 101 to Arcata/Eureka/ and sometimes i head to Willow Creek

Beautiful out there
When are visiting hours?
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
ya know why i did that right?

because they did it to me for about 100 posts before i shot back

and i got flagged for it but they didn't....amazing isn't it

i don't blame you for not saying anything to me about it either

it was a good call - that's why i like you
I know they did and I know it gets old. I spent a lot of time on another forum and they put you on break for it, so it forces you to learn how to be obnoxious, but without the name calling. ;)

Not amazing. You know...their site, their rules. You can voice your opinion on it a couple times, then there's just no point after that.
 

HaroldRocks

Well-Known Member
A new study by Israeli researchers found that a South African variant of COVID may put people who have been vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine at higher risk of breakthrough infection compared to unvaccinated people.


The study also showed an increased incidence of the UK variant in those who received one dose of the Pfizer shot.


The study, released April 10, reviewed the positive COVID-19 test results of 800 people — 400 people who tested positive for COVID 14 days or more after they received one or two doses of the Pfizer vaccine against 400 unvaccinated people to see if those vaccinated were more likely to be infected with the UK or South African variant compared with unvaccinated individuals.


The South African variant, B.1.351, was found to make up about 1% of all COVID cases across all the people studied, according to the study by Tel Aviv University and Israel’s largest healthcare provider, Clalit.


But among patients who had received two doses of the vaccine, the variant’s prevalence rate was eight times higher than in those unvaccinated — 5.4% versus 0.7%, Reuters reported.


The research suggests the vaccine is less effective against the South African variant, compared with the original COVID variant and a variant first identified in Britain that had comprised nearly all COVID cases in Israel, researchers said.


“We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group,” said Tel Aviv University’s Adi Stern, who headed the research. “This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine’s protection.”


“Based on patterns in the general population, we would have expected just one case of the South African variant, but we saw eight,” Stern told The Times of Israel. “Obviously, this result didn’t make me happy.”
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
From the first link...

Summary
The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic has been raging for over a year, creating global detrimental impact. The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine has demonstrated high protection levels, yet apprehension exists that several variants of concerns (VOCs) can surmount the immune defenses generated by the vaccines. Neutralization assays have revealed some reduction in neutralization of VOCs B.1.1.7 and B.1.351, but the relevance of these assays in real life remains unclear. Here, we performed a case-control study that examined whether BNT162b2 vaccinees with documented SARS-CoV-2 infection were more likely to become infected with B.1.1.7 or B.1.351 compared with unvaccinated individuals. Vaccinees infected at least a week after the second dose were disproportionally infected with B.1.351 (odds ratio of 8:1). Those infected between two weeks after the first dose and one week after the second dose, were disproportionally infected by B.1.1.7 (odds ratio of 26:10), suggesting reduced vaccine effectiveness against both VOCs under different dosage/timing conditions. Nevertheless, the B.1.351 incidence in Israel to-date remains low and vaccine effectiveness remains high against B.1.1.7, among those fully vaccinated. These results overall suggest that vaccine breakthrough infection is more frequent with both VOCs, yet a combination of mass-vaccination with two doses coupled with non-pharmaceutical interventions control and contain their spread.
Looks like the BNT162b2 vaccine is from Pfizer–BioNTech.
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
We like making pizzas here too, but I cheat and let the bread machine mix and rise. Part of the problem is that it's cold in the house and we often decide last minute, otherwise I'd cold rise for a day or two in the fridge, but the bread machine with its heater only needs two hours and the dough is g2g. I'll mix by hand once it warms up a bit.
 

smokinrav

Well-Known Member



look how beautiful my dough balls are - now they'll rise for 4 hours

i guarantee nobody can make a pizza from scratch better than me

that must make me better than you

:roll:
Did you grow your own tomatoes and spices, then can your own pizza sauce? Then make pizza dough from scratch?
 
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