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DIY-HP-LED said:

Some people in Missouri are getting vaccinated in secret to avoid backlash from loved ones, doctor says | CNN

The Covid-19 vaccine has become so polarizing that some people in Missouri are getting inoculated in secret for fear of backlash from their friends and family who oppose vaccination, a doctor told CNN on Wednesday.

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Some people in Missouri are getting vaccinated against Covid-19 in secret, doctor says. They fear backlash from loved ones who oppose the vaccines

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The Covid-19 vaccine has become so polarizing that some people in Missouri are getting inoculated in secret for fear of backlash from their friends and family who oppose vaccination, a doctor told CNN Wednesday.

“They’ve had some experience that’s sort of changed their mind from the viewpoint of those in their family, those in their friendship circles or their work circles. And they came to their own decision that they wanted to get a vaccine,” said Dr. Priscilla Frase, a hospitalist and chief medical information officer at Ozarks Healthcare in West Plains, Missouri.

“They did their own research on it, and they talked to people and made the decisions themselves,” Frase told CNN’s Anderson Cooper. “But even though they were able to make that decision themselves, they didn’t want to have to deal with the peer pressure or the outbursts from other people about them … ‘giving in to everything.’”

In a hospital produced video, Frase said one pharmacist at her hospital told her “they’ve had several people come in to get vaccinated who have tried to sort of disguise their appearance and even went so far as to say, ‘please, please, please don’t let anybody know that I got this vaccine.’”

Frase told CNN if a patient asks for privacy to get vaccinated, the hospital tries to accommodate the request – whether at the drive-thru window or at their cars.

“Anything we can do to get people in a place that they’re comfortable receiving the vaccine,” Frase said. “It’s not a large number, but every single person that we can reach who wants to get vaccinated and we can provide that for them, that’s a win. And we take every win that we can get.”

Missouri has 41% of its population fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The state is one of 49 in the US experiencing at least a 10% surge in new Covid-19 cases over last week, data from Johns Hopkins University shows.

Unvaccinated patients are getting sicker quicker
Frase said her hospital had 33 patients admitted with Covid-19 as of Wednesday and she’s expecting that number to rise.

“The patients that are coming in are generally younger than what we saw before. It’s more people requiring a lot more oxygen, a lot quicker,” Frase said.

“The majority of people we’ve admitted have not been vaccinated,” she added.

“The biggest thing that I think has been shocking for us is, back in the fall, in the winter, it took us four months to get to our peak admitted patients, which is around 22. It’s taken us 30 days to exceed that and be up to 33 today.” Frase said.

And it’s not just Frase’s hospital that is dealing with an influx of patients in Missouri.

The CoxHealth health system said it’s expanding morgue capacity in due to an increase in Covid-19 related deaths.

“We’ve actually brought in a portable piece of technology that allows bodies to be cooled and placed outside the morgue. We have had to expand that because the mortality has gone up so much lately,” CoxHealth President and CEO Steve Edwards said during a news briefing in Springfield-Greene County Tuesday.

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xtsho said:

Crazy. I'm sure glad that my family isn't a bunch of uneducated troglodytes. Fearing backlash for getting the vaccine. Good grief. It's amazing how stupid those trumpers are. They're anti-science, anti-knowledge, anti-college, anti-vaccine, etc... The only thing they aren't is anti-moron because that's what they are. Morons. The worst America has to offer.

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xtsho said:

Crazy. I'm sure glad that my family isn't a bunch of uneducated troglodytes. Fearing backlash for getting the vaccine. Good grief. It's amazing how stupid those trumpers are. They're anti-science, anti-knowledge, anti-college, anti-vaccine, etc... The only thing they aren't is anti-moron because that's what they are. Morons. The worst America has to offer.

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DIY-HP-LED said:

“I was strongly against getting the vaccine,” Barker said through labored breathing. “Just because we’re a strong conservative family."

In the U.S., many people who identify as politically and socially conservative have been more reluctant to be vaccinated — so much so that in Missouri, faith leaders have joined the effort to encourage shots. Meanwhile, the summer outbreak is so alarming that Democratic-led St. Louis city and county and Kansas City have reinstated mask mandates.

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mooray said:

Someone please


Hmmmm, this is strange. I mean, sure, it makes perfect sense logically speaking and mirrors everything else I've seen from people, but PJ says it's not really true...

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captainmorgan said:

Israel is now recommending a third Pfizer dose for those over 60.

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Unions have enjoyed a substantial rise in public support in recent years — but especially last year, when many at-risk workers most needed allies. As workers faced severe illness and financial devastation, organized labor notched its highest approval ratings in nearly two decades.

But now some unions seem keen on frittering away that goodwill by opposing coronavirus vaccination mandates. In so doing, they’re jeopardizing public health, the safety of their members and, ultimately, their own political influence.

The delta variant is sweeping the country, and a large fraction of Americans still refuse to get vaccinated. Because cajoling and even bribing people to protect themselves and their families don’t seem to be working, federal state and local governments have begun requiring that public employees and other public-facing workers get shots, with some reasonable accommodations.

California, for instance, announced this week that state employees and health-care workers would soon have to show proof of vaccination or get tested at least weekly. New York City, while encouraging private employers to require vaccination, announced a similar get-shots-or-be-tested mandate for municipal workers. New York state soon followed. D.C. says its own mandate is in the works for government employees.

The Department of Veterans Affairs announced this week that its health-care personnel must get vaccinated, and President Biden said Thursday that all federal workers and on-site contractors who cannot attest to being fully vaccinated will face strict testing and masking requirements.

To their credit, some unions — such as one representing New York City teachers and another representing federal government engineers — have supported these announcements. These mandates, after all, will promote workplace health and safety, which have historically been among organized labor’s greatest priorities and achievements.

“We don’t want any more of our members dying,” the president of the International Federation of Professional and Technical Engineers said in a statement.

The president of the AFL-CIO, a federation of more than 50 unions, has also eloquently explained why such policies advance both organized labor’s mission, and the economic recovery.

“If you come back in and you’re not vaccinated, everybody in that workplace is jeopardized,” Richard Trumka told C-SPAN. “If we don’t know whether you have been vaccinated or not, we can’t make the proper accommodations to make sure that you are protected and everyone else is protected.” He added that higher vaccination rates can prevent the development of more virus variants, which threaten the economy.

Unfortunately, other unions, including many affiliated with the AFL-CIO, disagree.

In New York City, the president of the union representing paramedics, EMTs and fire inspectors said that only about half his members are vaccinated (versus roughly 71 percent of adults in the city overall who’ve received at least one shot). He said that the mayor’s policy — which, again, exempts workers from vaccinations if they get tested regularly — is a “civil liberty being taken away from us.”

That union has demanded overtime pay for workers who decline vaccines and then get tested outside of normal work hours — which effectively means paying people not to get vaccinated. No way that incentive could backfire.

Other public- and private-sector unions around the country representing firefighters, postal workers, law enforcement officers, teachers and hospital workers have also criticized vaccine mandates, even as some of these same unions say they’re encouraging their members to get inoculated voluntarily.

It’s not entirely clear what’s driving their opposition.

Maybe some unions have been captured by the cranks in their ranks. Maybe some labor leaders are posturing to extract other concessions. The executive director of New York City’s largest municipal union implied as much when he said vaccination and testing policies can be implemented only through bargaining. (“New York City is a union town, and that cannot be ignored,” he said.) The Association of Flight Attendants recently negotiated an extra three days’ vacation for members who (voluntarily) get vaccinated.

Maybe, absent more meaningful deliverables for members (such as bigger raises), some labor leaders are fussing over testing and shots to show members they’re still useful.

Some union officials have suggested that mandates — even with those exemptions and accommodations — will backfire, and cause vaccine-resisters to resist more. If that’s the case, it suggests union officials must show more leadership on this issue, not less. Their job is to protect their workers from real threats, not the fever dreams of conspiracy theorists. That requires looking out for their most vulnerable members, including those who are immunocompromised, or who have at-risk children not yet eligible for vaccination, and who need to know that their workplaces are safe.

Labor leaders advocated admirably last year on behalf of workers whom regulators and companies had failed to protect. Today, public officials and (some) corporations are finally stepping up and mandating measures that can make workplaces safer, and enable the economy to recover faster. If “Big Labor” obstructs this effort, it will fail not only its own members, but also the many admirers and political allies it worked so hard to win over.

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Lordhooha said:

I don't believe for a second your a nurse. Especially a real RN. You may be a self proclaimed nurse Karen user of essential oils and mood lights to heal your "patients" of well their lives.

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bk78 said:

Wait yesterday you said you’re a stay at home mom of 4, then you said you’re a master cultivator, and now you’re a full time nurse?

I also see you’re the head of marketing for daddy’s company as well?

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Plutonium said:

If you're going to post bullshit, at least have your facts straight!

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