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DIY-HP-LED

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Delta Variant of Covid-19: Gangrene, Hearing Loss Linked to Dangerous - Bloomberg

Gangrene, Hearing Loss Show Delta Variant May Be More Severe

  • Indian doctors seeing unusual symptoms in Covid-19 patients
  • Data from England suggest it has higher hospitalization risk
The coronavirus variant driving India’s devastating Covid-19 second wave is the most infectious to emerge so far. Doctors now want to know if it’s also more severe.

Hearing impairment, severe gastric upsets and blood clots leading to gangrene, symptoms not typically seen in Covid patients, have been linked by doctors in India to the so-called delta variant. In England and Scotland, early evidence suggests the strain -- which is also now dominant there -- carries a higher risk of hospitalization.

Delta, also known as B.1.617.2, has spread to more than 60 countries over the past six months and triggered travel curbs from Australia to the U.S. A spike in infections, fueled by the delta variant, has forced U.K. to reconsider its plans for reopening later this month, with a local report saying it may be pushed back by two weeks. Higher rates of transmission and a reduction in the effectiveness of vaccines have made understanding the strain’s effects especially critical.

“We need more scientific research to analyze if these newer clinical presentations are linked to B.1.617 or not,” said Abdul Ghafur, an infectious disease physician at the Apollo Hospital in Chennai, southern India’s largest city. Ghafur said he is seeing more Covid patients with diarrhea now than in the initial wave of the pandemic.

‘New Enemy’
“Last year, we thought we had learned about our new enemy, but it changed,” Ghafur said. “This virus has become so, so unpredictable.”

Stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, hearing loss and joint pain are among the ailments Covid patients are experiencing, according to six doctors treating patients across India. The beta and gamma variants -- first detected in South Africa and Brazil respectively -- have shown little or no evidence of triggering unusual clinical signs, according to a study by researchers from the University of New South Wales last month.

Some patients develop micro thrombi, or small blood clots, so severe that they led affected tissue to die and develop gangrene, said Ganesh Manudhane, a Mumbai cardiologist, who has treated eight patients for thrombotic complications at the Seven Hills Hospital during the past two months. Two required amputations of fingers or a foot.

“I saw three-to-four cases the whole of last year, and now it’s one patient a week,” Manudhane said.

Baffling Clots
India has reported 18.6 million Covid cases thus far in 2021, compared with 10.3 million last year. The delta variant was the “primary cause” behind the country’s deadlier second wave and is 50% more contagious than the alpha strain that was first spotted in the U.K., according to a recent study by an Indian government panel.

The surge in cases may have driven an increase in the frequency with which rare Covid complications are being observed. Even still, Manudhane said he is baffled by the blood clots he’s seeing in patients across age groups with no past history of coagulation-related problems.

“We suspect it could be because of the new virus variant,” he said. Manudhane is collecting data to study why some people develop the clots and others don’t.

Doctors are also finding instances of clots forming in blood vessels that supply the intestines, causing patients to experience stomach pain -- their only symptom, local media have reported.

Some Covid patients are also seeking medical care for hearing loss, swelling around the neck and severe tonsillitis, said Hetal Marfatia, an ear nose and throat surgeon at Mumbai’s King Edward Memorial Hospital.

“Every person is showing different symptoms” in the second wave, she said.

‘Atypical Presentations’

The unusual presentations for delta and a closely related variant known as kappa, whose spread led to a fourth lockdown in the Australian city of Melbourne, are still being confirmed, said Raina MacIntyre, a professor of global biosecurity at the University of New South Wales in Sydney. “In the meanwhile, it is important to take note of this and be aware of possible atypical presentations,” she said.

Delta Variant From India Begins to Show Its True Ugly Colors

The most alarming aspect of the current outbreak in India is the rapidity with which the virus is spreading, including to children, said Chetan Mundada, a pediatrician with the Yashoda group of hospitals in Hyderabad.

Entire Families
Apollo’s Ghafur said he was also seeing entire families with Covid symptoms, unlike last year when individuals dominated, reflecting an increase in household transmission caused by the delta variant.

Cases of Mucormycosis -- a rare opportunistic fungal infection -- have also been surging in India. It had infected more than 8,800 Covid patients and survivors as of May 22, forcing local health care authorities to call it an epidemic.

Even as India’s outbreak begins to ease -- daily infections have slipped to less than a quarter of the May 7 peak -- the delta variant is sparking outbreaks elsewhere, including hitherto virus havens such as Taiwan, Singapore and Vietnam, bolstering calls for mass immunization.

German politician and scientist Karl Lauterbach said Tuesday the variant will probably become more prevalent in Germany too in the coming months. “To avoid it completely seems unrealistic to me,” he said on Twitter in German. “The decisive factor is a very high vaccination rate, which reduces mortality.”

But with emerging evidence delta and at least one other variant may be adept at evading vaccine-induced antibodies, pharmaceutical companies are under pressure to tweak existing shots or develop new ones.

“New vaccines have to prepared with new variants in mind,” said Ghafur. “We can’t get ahead of the virus, but at least we can least keep up with it.”
 

schuylaar

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Did you get a prize?
yeah the 10% off coupon at grocery x 2 grocery limit $200 expiry 12.31.21..

they don't want to give this Progressive a gun.

they don't want to arm the left; only the right- is there a pattern starting to form with the GOP?:lol:

Claire McCaskill is now wearing Roger Stone glasses and it's freaking me out. soon everyone will have Roger Stone glasses. WTF, man?
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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It looks like Delta is gonna do in a lot of Trumpers, antivaxxers, born yesterday Christians and the vulnerable.
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Fauci: U.S. must vaccinate more people before Delta becomes dominant Covid variant (cnbc.com)

Fauci says U.S. must vaccinate more people before Delta becomes dominant Covid variant in America

KEY POINTS
  • U.S. health officials are scrambling to get more Americans vaccinated to keep the Covid variant Delta, first identified in India, from proliferating across the country.
  • “In the U.K., the Delta variant is rapidly emerging as the dominant variant ... It is replacing the B.1.1.7,” Fauci said. “We cannot let that happen in the United States.”
  • The Delta variant accounts for 60% of new cases in the U.K. In the U.S., it is more than 6% of cases scientists have been able to sequence, but the actual number is likely higher.
U.S. health officials are scrambling to get more Americans vaccinated to keep the Delta variant, first identified in India, from proliferating across the United States.

The variant has become the dominant strain in the U.K., accounting for an estimated 60% of new cases. It’s now more prevalent than the Alpha strain, formerly called the B.1.1.7 strain, which was first identified in the U.K., and transmission is peaking in people between the ages of 12 and 20, White House chief medical advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said at a press briefing Tuesday.

In the U.S., the Delta variant accounts for more than 6% of cases scientists have been able to sequence, he said. The actual number is likely higher, as the U.S. is running the genetic sequence on a fraction of cases.

“In the U.K., the Delta variant is rapidly emerging as the dominant variant ... It is replacing the B.1.1.7,” Fauci said. “We cannot let that happen in the United States.”

President Joe Biden has laid out a goal of administering at least one vaccine shot to 70% of all U.S. adults by the Fourth of July. It’s a bit of a stretch with less than four weeks to go and 63.7% of the adult population having received their first shot, according to data compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Roughly 53% of all U.S. adults are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

First detected in October, the Delta variant has spread to at least 62 countries, the World Health Organization said last week.

“We continue to observe significantly increased transmissibility and a growing number of countries reporting outbreaks associated with this variant,” the WHO said of the Delta strain last week, noting that further study was a high priority.

The Delta strain has a stranglehold on India, causing a spike in infections and deaths that has clogged hospital systems. The Indian government announced Monday that the country will soon begin providing Covid-19 vaccines for free to all adults in the country.

Fauci also said that the Delta variant is more contagious and may be associated with a higher risk of hospitalization than the original “wild type” Covid-19 strain.

Studies also show that two doses of the Pfizer or AstraZeneca shots are effective against the Delta strain, according to the National Institutes of Health.

Two doses of the Pfizer vaccine were shown to be 88% effective against the Delta variant, while two doses of the AstraZeneca shot were shown to be 60% effective against the strain, according to NIH data.

Fauci stressed the importance of getting two doses after NIH studies showed that, three weeks after being given, just one dose of either vaccine provided only 33% efficacy against the Delta variant.
 

printer

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"The good news came earlier in the day when Premier Brian Pallister announced two measures to get us closer to having our lives back.

A long-promised provincial immunization card means fully vaccinated Manitobans who travel elsewhere in Canada won’t have to self-isolate for 14 days upon their return. At the same time, those fully vaccinated will see doors open to them at Manitoba’s health-care facilities so they can visit family and friends."

Darn, was not expecting this. I figured I did not need a travel trailer this year. Mind you, isolating for two weeks is no big deal for me, kind of my normal life as of late.
 

TacoMac

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DIY-HP-LED

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"The good news came earlier in the day when Premier Brian Pallister announced two measures to get us closer to having our lives back.

A long-promised provincial immunization card means fully vaccinated Manitobans who travel elsewhere in Canada won’t have to self-isolate for 14 days upon their return. At the same time, those fully vaccinated will see doors open to them at Manitoba’s health-care facilities so they can visit family and friends."

Darn, was not expecting this. I figured I did not need a travel trailer this year. Mind you, isolating for two weeks is no big deal for me, kind of my normal life as of late.
I'm surprised he had the guts to issue POV cards, the religious loonies will think it's infringing on their "freedom". Maybe he should have just tattooed a number on the anti vaxxers foreheads, prefix 666. We can make sure they are wearing masks in public then! Not that it would matter in MB, since religious loonies are exempt from the law for the most part. Maybe the new delta variant will kill a few fools and change some weak minds about vaccination and masks.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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States Biden Won Are Leading On Vaccines. Trump States Lag : NPR

There's A Stark Red-Blue Divide When It Comes To States' Vaccination Rates

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It's less than a month until the Fourth of July, which was President Biden's goal for 70% of American adults to have gotten at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

It looks like it's going to be a stretch to get there.

As of Tuesday, nearly 64% of U.S. adults have had at least one shot, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The key issue is that demand has dropped off. After an initial crush, the number of doses being administered daily is on a steep decline from the early April peak.

So what's going on? A few things to note:
  • There's a huge political divide. Speaking over the weekend, former President Donald Trump took credit for the vaccine rollout and told a North Carolina crowd of supporters that "most of you" have likely been vaccinated.
  • But surveys have shown Trump supporters are the least likely to say they have been vaccinated or plan to. Remember, Trump got vaccinated before leaving the White House, but that was reported months later. Unlike other public officials who were trying to encourage people to get the shot, Trump did it in private.
  • The top 22 states (including D.C.) with the highest adult vaccination rates all went to Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election.
  • Some of the least vaccinated states are the most pro-Trump. Trump won 17 of the 18 states with the lowest adult vaccination rates. Many of these states have high proportions of whites without college degrees.

But it's not just about politics:
  • Black Americans, who vote overwhelmingly Democratic, aren't getting the vaccine at the rate of whites. Less than a quarter of Black Americans had gotten at lease one vaccine dose as of Tuesday, according to the CDC. It's the lowest of any racial or ethnic group listed.
  • Black Americans also make up a significant percentage of the population in places like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina and Georgia. Those are seven of the 10 states with the lowest adult vaccination rates, though the gathering of data by race and ethnicity has been spotty depending on the state.
  • Young people, who also lean heavily toward Democrats, are also less likely to get vaccinated. More than 80% of people over 65 have gotten at least one shot, compared to just 45% of 18- to 24-year-olds and 51% of those 25 to 39.
  • And it's not necessarily about hesitancy. The May NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll found 75% of Black adults said they had gotten a shot or would get it when one came available. That was about the same as white adults, but Black adults trailed whites when it came to those who said they'd actually received one.
  • Equitable distribution of the vaccines has been a focus of the Biden White House, and they can't be happy with the lag.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You can't fix stupid.

In two Tennessee counties where only about 20% of residents are fully vaccinated, hospitalizations have risen about 700%.
Except for a few anomalies, the map I posted above of vaccination rates (the article link), might be a pretty good election predictor in 2022 and 2024!

Hardcore stupid counties have very low vaccination rates in the red areas. I suspect much of the issue with the black folks has to do with access, in places like Mississippi and in some other red states. There needs to be public education, community funding and involvement in some areas to drive vaccination rates up. If governors can give shit away to drive up vaccination rates, can the feds and the president give shit away? They must confiscate hundreds if not thousands of cars, boats, bikes and recreational vehicles every week, instead of an auction, give them away as prizes to vaccinated people! Don't want the RV? Then ya get it's auction value or sell it yourself.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You`ll see a lot of this in the news when the vaccines come out of emergency use statues, only they will say fired, instead of suspended.
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Houston Methodist hospital workers refuse COVID vaccine, get suspended (usatoday.com)

178 health care workers suspended from Houston Methodist hospital system for refusing COVID-19 vaccination
Scores of workers at a Houston hospital system have been suspended and face being fired for refusing the COVID-19 vaccination, a controversial company mandate that has drawn protests and an outcry from those facing termination.

Houston Methodist CEO Dr. Marc Bloom said the 178 workers represent less than 1% of almost 25,000 employees.

"We are nearly 100% compliant with our COVID-19 vaccine mandate," Bloom said in an email to staff Tuesday. "Houston Methodist is officially the first hospital system in the country to achieve this goal for the benefit of its patients."

Bloom said 27 of the 178 suspended workers have received one dose of vaccine, and that he is hopeful they will get the second dose. All are suspended for two weeks and are set to be fired if they fail to be fully vaccinated.

"I wish the number could be zero, but unfortunately, a small number of individuals have decided not to put their patients first," Bloom said.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Houston Methodist....hahaha.
This is an interesting number.
Houston Methodist CEO Dr. Marc Bloom said the 178 workers represent less than 1% of almost 25,000 employees.

If most people get their healthcare from employers, healthcare insurance providers would offer lower insurance rates on vaccinated employees, giving employers an incentive to require vaccinations. Once the mRNA vaccines come out of emergency use statues, they could do this and get vaccination rates among Americans with healthcare insurance from an employer up to well over 90%! Vaccinations of close to 90% of those who are 65 and over is happening in many places and if schools and universities require it kids down to 7 years old might be inoculated.

It might take till next year to get there, but it looks like a high rate of vaccination might be possible in America, it will be mostly mandatory, but privately required and enforced, lead by the insurance industry, they end up with the bill!
 

schuylaar

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Except for a few anomalies, the map I posted above of vaccination rates (the article link), might be a pretty good election predictor in 2022 and 2024!

Hardcore stupid counties have very low vaccination rates in the red areas. I suspect much of the issue with the black folks has to do with access, in places like Mississippi and in some other red states. There needs to be public education, community funding and involvement in some areas to drive vaccination rates up. If governors can give shit away to drive up vaccination rates, can the feds and the president give shit away? They must confiscate hundreds if not thousands of cars, boats, bikes and recreational vehicles every week, instead of an auction, give them away as prizes to vaccinated people! Don't want the RV? Then ya get it's auction value or sell it yourself.
they fvking gave a truck away just for those morons.
 

schuylaar

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You`ll see a lot of this in the news when the vaccines come out of emergency use statues, only they will say fired, instead of suspended.
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Houston Methodist hospital workers refuse COVID vaccine, get suspended (usatoday.com)

178 health care workers suspended from Houston Methodist hospital system for refusing COVID-19 vaccination
Scores of workers at a Houston hospital system have been suspended and face being fired for refusing the COVID-19 vaccination, a controversial company mandate that has drawn protests and an outcry from those facing termination.

Houston Methodist CEO Dr. Marc Bloom said the 178 workers represent less than 1% of almost 25,000 employees.

"We are nearly 100% compliant with our COVID-19 vaccine mandate," Bloom said in an email to staff Tuesday. "Houston Methodist is officially the first hospital system in the country to achieve this goal for the benefit of its patients."

Bloom said 27 of the 178 suspended workers have received one dose of vaccine, and that he is hopeful they will get the second dose. All are suspended for two weeks and are set to be fired if they fail to be fully vaccinated.

"I wish the number could be zero, but unfortunately, a small number of individuals have decided not to put their patients first," Bloom said.
i can;t even believe they're allowed to deny the vaccine; every hospital worker HAS to have up-to-date vaccines records. when i worked for that medical courier service, the hospitals required me to be vaccined with anything i was missing or i couldn't work. the hospital required it.
 
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