Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.

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Fogdog

Fogdog

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Star Dog said:
Considering it wasn't intended for you I'm not surprised, nor remotely interested in what a drunk thinks

Just stop being a dick, Ffs man.
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So, you say you won't take the jab unless it's 100% effective.

95% is not good enough? Do you think you are safer without a vaccine that is "only" 95% effective? Do you think your parents or other people's parents are safer if you don't take it?
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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Fogdog said:
So, you say you won't take the jab unless it's 100% effective.

95% is not good enough? Do you think you are safer without a vaccine that is "only" 95% effective? Do you think your parents or other people's parents are safer if you don't take it?
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Yes whatever you choose to make up, go on knock yourself out
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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2 hrs from now I get my first shot :o! I’m not doing this for me (well not all for me), but so I can maybe get back to a somewhat normal life. Maybe get on a plane to see my daughter, it’s been 18 months :(. I do have reservations but I’ve taken pretty much every recreational drug known to man (doubt most would have gotten approval) so WTF lol.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Well they did fail the national IQ test in November and another remedial one on January 6th after all.
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Only 11 percent of Republicans view the pandemic as the country's most pressing issue, poll finds (yahoo.com)

Only 11 percent of Republicans view the pandemic as the country's most pressing issue, poll finds

On the date marking the one-year anniversary of the COVID-19 pandemic, more Americans than ever before are optimistic about the light at the end of the coronavirus-induced tunnel.

In a CNN/SSRS poll released Thursday, 77 percent of American adults said they believe the "worst" of the pandemic is in the past, while 19 percent said the worst is yet to come.

The poll showed only 11 percent of Republicans believe the coronavirus pandemic is the most important issue facing the country today, with 32 percent and 29 percent of the GOP saying the top issues were U.S. political divisions and the economy, respectively. Half of Democratic respondents felt the pandemic was the country's top issue.

The poll, which was released just hours before President Biden is set to address the nation to commemorate the one-year pandemic anniversary, showed that 67 percent of adults have some or a lot of confidence in Biden's ability to lead the country out of the pandemic, while 30 percent indicated they had no real confidence in Biden to do so.

Also in the poll, 59 percent of non-vaccinated respondents said they would try to get a shot, while 36 percent said they would forgo a vaccine. The latter number is up 6 percent from January, when 30 percent said they would not try and get a vaccine, but down from October when 45 percent indicated they would not seek out a shot should one become available.

SSRS conducted the CNN poll via telephone from March 3-8 among a sample of 1,009 respondents. The poll has a margin of sampling error of ± 3.6 points. Read the full findings here.
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Although I’m not shouting O Canada, or hanging the maple leaf from the truck back window type of guy, I do believe it’s the right thing to do for the country and the people. And yes the economy is a huge concern for me and how it effects others (Our industry seem to be doing extremely well) but that dread and concern was solely brought on by this virus. So to say the economy is your number one concern would be just dumb as again it was the virus that initiated that concern for the most part.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Budley Doright said:
Although I’m not shouting O Canada, or hanging the maple leaf from the truck back window type of guy, I do believe it’s the right thing to do for the country and the people. And yes the economy is a huge concern for me and how it effects others (Our industry seem to be doing extremely well) but that dread and concern was solely brought on by this virus. So to say the economy is your number one concern would be just dumb as again it was the virus that initiated that concern for the most part.
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Getting a fucking vaccine is my biggest concern! We need to think seriously about domestic mRNA vaccine production, it should be much cheaper and quicker in a few years. mRNA vaccine technology can allow countries like Canada to have economical domestic vaccine production at a reasonable cost. They just have to get the the mRNA strand data emailed FFS and begin production. We can produce our annual flu vaccine using it, as well as meet emerging pandemics, ditto for domestic PPE production too.

The Americans have quickly jumped ahead of the pack and the speed of Joe's response kinda makes us look bad, for a change!
 
Rottedroots

Rottedroots

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tangerinegreen555 said:
I have a long history of trying new drugs.

No use stopping now.
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HaHa. The number of questionable drugs that I've introduced into my system the least of my worries is a vaccine. Either, petroleum products and who knows what else. Vaccines do not have a long history of causing serious side effects. Sure there are examples but it's a risk I was willing to take. I feel pretty lucky and relieved that I have had both doses of the Pfizer vaccine. Believe it or not we actually have an infection control nurse at the NH who is not going to get vaccinated. I would love to get rid of her but my wife disagrees and manages that aspect. Now if it was a straight-up manufactured pharmaceutical say like thalidomide I would be more concerned. I really do find it comforting to know that I have both doses on board. What's even more interesting is that no one I have spoken to that refuses the vaccine can tell me why. It won't be long before the vaccines are no longer released on an emergency basis that it will become mandated by the state in some situations and the employers in others. The number of vaccines with demonstrated efficacy and were produced in a year is a testament to the pharmaceutical companies benevolence. They did it for the public good and not for any financial reward. Cough cough.
 
Bagginski

Bagginski

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Like many people, I’ve had misgivings about vaccines...and even viruses...but they’ve mostly centered on or long-term addiction to *bypassing* the heart of the immune system - the part that identifies, decodes, and crafts antibodies to infectious agents delivered straight into the body. Doing this forces an EMERGENCY response, not a broad-spectrum response (IMO one of the reasons that flu vaccines need to be updated every season, because the emergency response generated is TOO specific to handle variants). While medical research has done a lot (some of it questionable) toward varying and elaborating vaccine development and production, we’ve been stuck with sticking needles into people.

The mRNA vaccines *do* still rely on sticking needles for inoculation, but they are a completely different approach from the live/dead virus insertions, and I’ve come to the opinion that this is the first real leap forward in immunization in ~70 years. I’m not afraid of the vaccine...and I’m not afraid of the virus; I’m not afraid of dying, either: what I *am* afraid of is remaining stuck in my current situation, and being unable to move on toward the REST of my life.

Second stick is Monday, and I’m looking forward to it - to getting it DONE...and to moving on to a life I’m happy to wake up in....

@Rottedroots - just for the larger conversation, thalidomide was never any kind of vaccination or immunization; it was (is) an anti-depressant that became widely prescribed to pregnant women experiencing mood swings - and was NEVER tested for safety to fetuses in utero. The crippling birth defects it produced were a national catastrophe...those who didn’t grow up with the thalidomide kids truly have no idea how really awful it was. As a final note, I confess I have little confidence in the public-spirited benevolence of the pharmaceutical industry: the increase in deaths from diabetes - due to the now-extreme cost of insulin - tells a truer tale, IMO
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Getting a fucking vaccine is my biggest concern! We need to think seriously about domestic mRNA vaccine production, it should be much cheaper and quicker in a few years. mRNA vaccine technology can allow countries like Canada to have economical domestic vaccine production at a reasonable cost. They just have to get the the mRNA strand data emailed FFS and begin production. We can produce our annual flu vaccine using it, as well as meet emerging pandemics, ditto for domestic PPE production too.

The Americans have quickly jumped ahead of the pack and the speed of Joe's response kinda makes us look bad, for a change!
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Ya it’s not so sunny ways here re a vaccine. I was told it could be 14 weeks before the second shot lol. Also our (health unit) was chosen as the rollout for ages 60-64 in Ontario and I have no clue although our numbers are steadily climbing. The 65-80 group was not included due to lack of data re reactions :(.
 
printer

printer

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Bagginski said:
Like many people, I’ve had misgivings about vaccines...and even viruses...but they’ve mostly centered on or long-term addiction to *bypassing* the heart of the immune system - the part that identifies, decodes, and crafts antibodies to infectious agents delivered straight into the body. Doing this forces an EMERGENCY response, not a broad-spectrum response (IMO one of the reasons that flu vaccines need to be updated every season, because the emergency response generated is TOO specific to handle variants). While medical research has done a lot (some of it questionable) toward varying and elaborating vaccine development and production, we’ve been stuck with sticking needles into people.

The mRNA vaccines *do* still rely on sticking needles for inoculation, but they are a completely different approach from the live/dead virus insertions, and I’ve come to the opinion that this is the first real leap forward in immunization in ~70 years. I’m not afraid of the vaccine...and I’m not afraid of the virus; I’m not afraid of dying, either: what I *am* afraid of is remaining stuck in my current situation, and being unable to move on toward the REST of my life.

Second stick is Monday, and I’m looking forward to it - to getting it DONE...and to moving on to a life I’m happy to wake up in....

@Rottedroots - just for the larger conversation, thalidomide was never any kind of vaccination or immunization; it was (is) an anti-depressant that became widely prescribed to pregnant women experiencing mood swings - and was NEVER tested for safety to fetuses in utero. The crippling birth defects it produced were a national catastrophe...those who didn’t grow up with the thalidomide kids truly have no idea how really awful it was. As a final note, I confess I have little confidence in the public-spirited benevolence of the pharmaceutical industry: the increase in deaths from diabetes - due to the now-extreme cost of insulin - tells a truer tale, IMO
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Doctor offered thalidomide to mom, glad she passed it up. The mRNA downfall of being too specific is also its strength. They identify just a portion of the virus so any antibodies developed have a lessor effect on you. But with a major change in the variant it may miss the new guy in town. Might need a booster shot at a later date. Now if we do not snuff out most of the reinfections then there is a chance some dimwit will get the first shot and not the second allowing the variant to be mostly killed but some of the virus with a completly new mutation used the person as a petri dish. And then pass that one along.

Ain't life grand?
 
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